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According to Sky News, "Two passengers with names linked to Islamic terrorism were on board the Air France flight which crashed with the loss of 228 lives... While it is certain that there were computer malfunctions, terrorism has not been ruled out...There is a possibility the name similarities are simply a 'macabre coincidence', the source added, but the revelation is still being 'taken very seriously'." In the meantime, a French nuclear submarine has joined the search for the black boxes and the Brazilian island of Fernando de Noronha, usually a tourist destination, has been transformed into a staging ground for search-and-recovery operations.
Report: 2 Air France Passengers Had Islamic Terrorism Ties
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This is grounds for all air passengers to start shitting on a plate for a TSA specialist to inspect (for any traces of couscous).
I heard Kevin Bacon has islamic terrorism ties.
All details of which were on his BlackBerry
ha ha! terrorism is SOOOOO funny. ha ha! people died! ha ha!
dicks...
how come none of the other major news sites (CNN, NYTimes) are carrying this story?
I noticed that too. Probably because its unsubstantiated horse shit.
Kind of like your comment?
Yes, hence the word 'probably' moron.
This means absolutely nothing, given the fact that the terrorist name watch list has been demonstrated over and over and over again to contain names of hundreds of thousands of people not in the slightest involved with terrorism, such as infant children, sitting US Senators, journalists critical of the Department of Homeland Security, and many others. Also, given the fact that the names of Muslims are very often permutations on the same themes, there is no way of singling out suspected individuals without incriminating thousands if not millions of others in one stroke. These lists of names are complete horseshit, a travesty of justice, and create the presumption of guilt simply by one's name, without any other substantiating evidence.
1. the names are from french documents, not american.
"It was there that they established that two names on the passenger list are also on highly-classified documents listing the names of radical Muslims considered a threat to the French Republic."
2. there is no presumption of guilt. that is why they are investigating further.
"Agents are now trying to establish dates of birth for the two dead passengers, and family connections."
Hundreds of thousands? Could you name 10?
Lets see...French MI6 types..or guy on a keyboard in NY?
Who ever has heard of radical muslims? Certainly nobody in lower manhattan.
Soon after news of the fatal crash broke, agents working for the DGSE (Direction Générale de la Sécurité Extérieure), the French equivalent of MI6, were dispatched to Brazil.
It was there that they established that two names on the passenger list are also on highly-classified documents listing the names of radical Muslims considered a threat to the French Republic.
Gee whiz, a few years ago the mainstream media would be all over this instantly. We have certainly become more complacent. A shame.
If they don't find the black box I highly doubt we will ever figure out what happened to the flight.
"Could you name 10?"
Easy:
A five year old child on the no fly list, searched and detained by TSA.
Another five year old child named Sam Adams on the no fly list, presumed guilty by the TSA.
FBI admits it added over 1000 names to the no fly list that have nothing to do with terrorism.
Canadian Defense Minister on no fly list.
Senator Ted Kennedy on no fly list.
Airline pilot, lawyer, child on no fly list.
Air Marshals denied boarding as their names appear on no fly list
TSA adds 16,500 names to no fly list because they forgot their ID when checking in at the airport
And, here's the best for last:
As of July 14th 2008, no fly list reaches ONE MILLION NAMES
How's about them apples, you retard?
All they have established is that THEY HAD THE SAME NAMES. Which means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
fucking rock on. good work, SP.
I mean, if this was terrorism it was clearly a botched job. Having a plane mysteriously disappear, later found to have crashed into the ocean...doesn't really get "a message out" or produce terror (except the general terror of flying).
Exactly. When terrorists accomplish something they take credit for it immediately.
I was going to say that myself.. but if you look at a detailed timeline, AQ did not initially take credit for 9/11. OBL personally denied having anything to do with it in a video message.
Various groups took credit for Lockerbie, but none had any actual ties to it.
botched job? It succeeded in creating terror. Experiment was a success. If terrorism was the cause, look out for more "botched jobs" in the middle of the ocean where black boxes might not be recovered to learn what happened.
Personally, I'm leaning towards weather-related/defective equipment and not terrorism.
"It succeeded in creating terror."
Uh really? Maybe to you. All it succeeded in accomplishing is making a lot of people really sad, and wasting a lot money. No one was terrorized by this, except for maybe a handful of xenophobic paranoid reactionaries, but then again they are terrorized by just about anything anyone with brown skin does that doesn't involve playing a professional sport.
Personally, I'm leaning towards not flying anywhere soon...
The one time I've flown out of Galeao I was practically strip-searched (along with everyone else). I'd think this airport would be an unlikely terrorist target.
Try reading..this isnt about the TSA...or a 'watch list'
'It was there that they established that two names on the passenger list are also on highly-classified documents listing the names of radical Muslims considered a threat to the French Republic.'
Its the French government. And yes..when it comes to 'brown' people and aviation...there is kinda..a little bit..of a history. Perhaps you should read about all these 'brown' people and what they have done to airplanes. They even forced other 'brown' people to jump 100 stories to their death. Yeah 'Brown' people!!!
I think you are the one witch reading comprehension problems. My point, which was lost on you, is that just names alone, no matter what documents they may correlate with, are meaningless in and of themselves. The TSA no fly list is the most egregious example of this. YOU asked me to name ten people on the TSA list who should not be on it, and I provided you with examples of over 16,500. Typically, when proven wrong, you as other conservative wingnuts do, attempt to divert the conversation. And thanks for reinforcing what a racist piece of shit you are too.
Typically, when proven wrong, you. . . attempt to divert the conversation.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Example please?
Here's the real story:
French authorities have known who was on the plane since the day it went down. Why release this information now?
For a few days after the crash, the weather was the leading culprit, but for the past week, nearly every new theory involves at least some negligence on the part of Air France and/or Airbus, which is, of course, based in France. Furthermore, the Paris Air Show takes place next week, traditionally an event where Airbus receives a large portion of their annual orders. This year they'll be lucky to earn any orders due to the economy, and this "tail fell off" stuff doesn't help their image.
Even if this name stuff turns out to be nothing (notice they didn't actually release the names), it will take some heat off of two giant French companies for a few days.