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In what may be the least shocking news item of the day, a group of drunk off-duty firefighters got a little rowdy and hit on women yesterday afternoon. But at least one NYC resident refused to accept the status quo and complained to the department after witnessing the debauchery. Rebeca Izquierdo, a former inspector with the Civilian Complaint Review Board, says a party bus "blasting hip-hop and reggaeton" pulled up at Allen and Stanton streets around 2 p.m. and released 30 firefighters, who had come from the department's annual Medal Day ceremony. She tells the Post, "They were all in uniform with open containers and they were soliciting young girls to get on the bus." When she called the FDNY to complain about their behavior, she says one firefighter told her, "It's Medal Day, there's nothing I can do." And the owner of a nearby deli reports, "They bought 20 six packs of Coors Light and Bud Light. They were drunk already." But come on, it's Medal Day, and that's only four beers each! Nevertheless, an FDNY spokesman promised to look into the matter.
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big deal the key word there was off-duty last i remember drinking and being a dick was legal, annoying but legal
If they were wearing uniforms, that would or should change matters.
They're off duty and they don't have guns. Screw it.
Civilian Complaint Review Board, a.k.a. The People's Puritan Police.
Get a life. It's not like they were driving the bus. Or threatening people. Or
beating up cyclists. Or making noise at 4am.
Sounds like some Civilian Complaint Board karma coming home to roost.
How do you know who was driving?
Alcohol in uniform? In-oh.
And what bad taste in beer, ugh!
She went to Wellesley.
That explains *everything*.
Let me guess, they won't get tickets for "drinking in public" or "public intoxication" Such BULLSHIT, i am so sick Mother F'er's.
I could care less about them celebrating, but they don't they pay the same kindness to all us citizens when we're doing the same thing, enough is enough, a Uniform should not give you the right to do whatever the F*ck you want.
I couldn't agree more. If any other Joe Citizen were drinking in public and slapping women's asses they would be arrested & fined. Meanwhile FDNY can have their own "PuertoRican day parade on wheels" and it's ignored as "boys being boys"
i thought the NYPD got off on sticking it to the FDNY. seems like it was a perfect chance for some citation fun.
or maybe i watch too much TV.
No, you're right. The cops and FD have a rivalry that is not so friendly. As long as the dudes weren't touching women in an unwanted way and just being jackasses, it shouldn't be a huge deal. People get drunk and yell.
As for Joe Citizen getting arrested for drinking and acting a fool in public, there were plenty of fools on that fateful PR day parade many years ago that were not hauled in.
these guys are off duty. what the hell are you so angry about. some things are really just not worth complaining about stop your bithching
quit your bitching...why dont you do something for your community like run into burning buildings and save people.
an FDNY spokesman promised to look into the matter.
"look into the matter" = hang up phone, open New York Post.
hahaha
HA! Almost did a spit-take
"It's Medal Day, there's nothing I can do." Okay thanks sorry for complaining then...
She wouldn't have complained if she had gotten on the bus and met the firefiighter that got the medal for Biggest Hose.
yeah, this is only annoying in so far as the group rowdiness and open containers are just another line on the laundry list of ways that city employees, fdny and nypd can piss on all the rest of us while holding our feet to the fire more than ever before on the same issues.
The only thing I have a problem with is their choice of girly beers - Coors Light and Bud Light?
Well yeah, in case there's a fire, they'll have some piss water available to put it out.
This is the FDNY. Somehow I don't think they're fans of Friar Tom's Fat Barrel Summer Sunrise Hefeweizen.
Somehow I don't think they can afford 20 6-packs of that kind of beer at your average Manhattan deli.
They can only drink that stuff in retirement when the pension benefits kick in.
I don't care if they want to get hammered. But getting drunk and harassing women in a large and threatening group, while in uniform, is douchebaggery of the highest order.
Here's something my father taught me early on -- if you treat women poorly, you're not a man. You can drink yourself shitfaced, haul hoses into burning buildings, lift huge weights, fight Mike Tyson, whatever. No matter what else you do, if you have it in you to harass or intimidate a woman, then you're nothing but a little bitch.
Hey look another news story detailing how the FDNY is nothing but a bunch of obnoxious, arrogant, alcoholic, thieves. Who manage to escape any type of public scrutiny or official discipline.
In other news, NASA confirms the moon is not made of cheese.
Die in a fire.
go fuck yourself they got drunk and acted like jerks. im sure your a saint, go die in an office
"off-duty firefighters got a little rowdy and hit on women"
for clarification, is hitting on women considered harassment? at one point, your dad must have hit on your mom, so i guess it worked out for you.
I'm just guessing, but I'm pretty sure he didn't "holler" at her from a bus.
Calling out to random women and inviting them to join you on a bus is harassment. If you don't know the difference between (a) hitting on someone by talking with them, getting to know them a little, and eventually asking them out and (b) hitting on someone by yelling "hey baby, let me tap dat ass" at any random woman who passes by...
You nailed it! These drunkards get beer muscles and act like sailors on leave and that makes it okay? Seems like these men spend way too much time in their shorts and boots grocery shopping and cooking meals together. Maybe some of them are compensating for their own latent homosexuality...
thanks so much for answering my question everyone. i'm truly learning so much here. let's recap shall we?
1. FDNY are all drunken homosexual sailor douchebags
2. merely speaking to women you don't know is harassment
3. when it is your place that is on fire you will all dutifully decline FDNY's help on moral grounds.
No dickhead, he didn't... what a lame comparison.
But there's a wide swath between harassment from some local LES meathead whose ass you can kick and be on your merry way and a member of a local/NYC public enforcement department who COULD make your life miserable if he decided to flex his power. For a woman to have to deal with that is a pain in the ass and should be called out. And like Thespis said, it's FDNY douchebaggery of the highest order.
>> No matter what else you do, if you have it in you to harass or intimidate a woman, then you're nothing but a little bitch. >>
TESTIFY!
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I know I'm asking for way too much, but it'd be nice if the boys would f*cking grow up and actually be Men.
But, in the meantime, I think I'll refer to these and other service folks as Fireboys and policeboys.
You do that.
Why is this news? Title should be "hag can't get any, harasses heroic young men just blowing off steam."
I'm reminded of Lisa Simpson's "Shrill Feminist Lawyer" whose only objection is "that is harrassment. THAT is harrassment"
blah blah blah...getting drunk and hitting on woman is off the hook..(and ladder)
They're partying in the epicenter of beer halls and bars in NYC and the best they can find are Coors Light and Bud Light ?!?!
remember, these are FDNY... not the most sophisticated bunch. doubtful many even live in the city.
Reading the comments on Gothamist really makes my day. Thanks guys!
What angers me is that none of these women' gave it up to our Heroic firefighters when asked. Our city's bravest deserve at LEAST that.
Its as if they were TOO GOOD for them or something. How dare they.
Celebrating does not condone abusing women in the street, or being rowdy and drunk in the streets. This is not becoming of Firemen in uniform, or out of uniform. We need more women like Rebeca, caring, responsible and well educated. "Jerky" mentioned Wellesley, Thank you Jerky. By the way Jerky's comments are to be expected from someone who chooses to identify himself with such a name. I have the feeling Jerky was part of the group in that bus. Way to go Rebeca!!! You deserve a medal.
A non-story on a slow news day. no laws were broken. The only reason we even know about this is cuz they are fire fighters and the Post HATES fire fighters. God bless them and the FDNY.
italiangourmetslop, where does it say they were "abusing" women? The artical if you could call it that says they were "hitting" on women. Is that the same thing? Do you have a problem with firemen? Why would you make that up? Seems someone has an agenda of their own.
So, it's OK for drunken White male city workers to cruise the city on an alcoholic bender, harassing women and generally acting like assholes?
Imagine if it was a group of BLACK or LATINO city workers - would you folks feel the same way, or would you be ranting and raving about "minority criminals"?
These drunken goons should all get a 30 day unpaid suspension - mandatory 28 day alcohol rehab (paid for out of THEIR pocket, not the City's or the Uniformed Firefighter's Association's) and a mandatory 8 hour sexual harassment class (again, paid for out of pocket, not by the City or the UFA)
funny, i missed the ethno-roster of the bus. where did you read that? can you share it with the class?
i think you're assuming that black and latino guys don't want to be firefighters. poor form!
First, goyogago, in response to your asinine comment about firefighters not living in the city. How sophisticated is it to lump more than 10,000 people into a group based solely on what you read in the news and what I'm sure is limited face to face interaction? And since when does living in the city equate to being more sophisticated than others? I see from your website that you yourself lived in Albany and Maine at different points, were you a lesser person during those periods?
Second, to Gregoryabutler, where does it say that the bus was full of white males? I counted at at least 10 non-male white winners of medals at Wednesday's ceremony. Now, since everyone else is making absurd assumptions about this incident, does it seem likely that a group of thirty white guys was riding around in a bus blasting hip hop and reggaeton? Also, EMT's, who definitely are not firefighters, now wear an almost identical uniform and were honored at the ceremony as well. Couldn't it have been one of them?
Now, I agree that these guys certainly weren't right - or at all tactful. But does it really warrant a story, or all these speculative and imaginative responses?
Yes, EMT's were present at the ceremony. However one our honorees was a man who passed away under tragic circumstances shortly after the act for which he was honored. His family was present accepting the medal for him, and I think any EMS members who were there were conscious of not doing anything which may besmirch his memory, and bring discredit to us or his family.
CCRB reject and the NY Post. perfect together.
But I tawt fiewr fightin was about helpin pweple in dere time of nee?
I call bullshit. My father did it. So im gonna follow in machismo footsteps.
lord knows Im not compassionate be a caregiver or wash some ones clothes for
a living or be a gardener no no no. Its all about the EGO folks. Till someone dies
of smoke inhalation under the guise of heroism and self sacwafice.
Wheres ma overtime pay? Me wants more moneys! Opps I died today.
Reflect, that was an ignorant comment.
But I for one don't see the problem here. God forbid these guys had some fun.
I am from a small neighborhood that has a large percentage of firefighters, including one of Brooklyn's only volunteer fire dept's. Yesterday, I ran into a good friend who was in uniform, coming back from SI after attending a ceremony in which someone from his ladder had a park named after them because they were killed in the line of duty.
I'm not one of those proud, man's man type of guys, believe you me, but complaining about guys who day in and day out risk their lives having a good time for a day, come on. It's as pathetic as complaining about an ice cream truck.
"God forbid these guys had some fun."
No one is trying to ruin their "fun." Most people draw the line when a bunch of drunks also began trying to talk young women into getting on their party bus.