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Though undercover cops recently arrested one pervert, there never seems to be a shortage! Take this terrible story recounted on HollaBack. A reader said that on a D train this morning, between Atlantic-Pacific and Grand, "I was napping with my iPod on, and I woke up because I felt something repeatedly hitting and rubbing up to my arm. When I looked down, I saw an uncircumcised penis being masturbated right on top of my arm. Luckily, he hadn't finished yet. (Though the police mentioned that it would have been better to have DNA evidence. Ew.) I immediately screamed something like 'OH MY GOD, GET OFF OF ME YOU SICK MOTHERFUCKER!' At that point, the man mumbled something like 'sorry' and walked quickly through the crowd to the other side of the train. I was stunned that no one tried to stop him, and even shifted to let him through. I screamed again 'DID ANYONE SEE THAT? THAT ASSHOLE WAS MASTURBATING ON ME!'" (Read the full story here.)The HollaBack reader took the man's photograph while he pretended to be asleep and reported him to the cops, but because he's still at large, a happy, um, ending remains elusive.
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Is it technically masturbating if you're touching a chick's arm with it? More like sexually assaulting.
'Still at large' hehehehe
I hope this story has a happy ending.
"I'VE GOT YOUR PICTURE NOW, YOU SICK FUCK. I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU TO THE POLICE!"
Y'know what? I wouldn't yell that at a perp because lord knows what he, or she, would do to stop you from going to the police or drawing attention to them.
You have to pick your battles. But you cannot let someone get away with this. Most pervs are total cowards who get embarrassed for being called out on their behavior. We shouldn't go around always being afraid of what the Big Bad Masturbator will do. HE should be afraid.
It absolutely boggles my mind that nobody in the car did anything about this. What a bunch of cowards.
Yeah. but she may have been sitting underneath the Subway map. Have you ever noticed that people who are standing while trying to read the map look like they are getting blown by the person sitting under it? it always cracks me up.
the "rub-ee" was a dude, dude!
"Don't sleep in the subway, Darling..." Petula Clark
Did I miss something but how did the victim manage to take a picture of the alleged masturbator asleep? Wasn't she the one sleeping, then rudely awaken by the poking?
Yes, apparently you missed something... that different things happen at different points in time, perhaps.
This is disgusting using a concealed weapon to get off, thank god he didn't fire the weapon someone could have lost an eye.
LOL. I have a hard time believing this. And oh gee, it's another SEXUAL PREDATOR!!!
This happens ALL THE TIME. Believe it.
Sexual Predator? Makes it sound like he is hunting for girls to have sex with and luring them into his van. He's got issues with women, he sees them as objects to be used. This is very common.
so hot. was he hard??? mmmm
This is why it amazes me when people are constantly saying that New York has lost its edge.
It has! Back in the day, people used to get slapped in the face by penis's left right and center during their commute and no-one complained. Ladies just took it as a compliment.
Um. This is my train stop. I can't believe no one said anything. I ride the D train to work every morning and night...yikes.
women should carry knifes with them from now on, imagine the perverts face when she pulls it out and chops it off
A nutcracker would also do the trick (and the good part is that it is not technically considered a lethal/concealed weapon).
Or she could have just punched him in the conveniently positioned nuts.
What I love from the gothamist crowd is all this prison mentality that I miss so much,
thanks you for making me feel at home!
How did no one notice this? Possible explanation is the train car was empty: the guy walked away from the poor girl and sat down, she went after him, snapped a picture, went back to her seat and was still able to sit down. Free seats means the car was not that packed?
But since the victim did claim there were people around, I tend to again believe the car was populated 90% with cowards, the remaining 5% being the victim, the masturbator, and some guys snoozing or vision impaired.
In bad action/adventure movies, the hero always knows what to do, and always comes to save the day at the critical moment.
In the real world, most non sociopaths freeze in crisis situations - and not only regular people, but even cops and soldiers who've been TRAINED to deal with crises freeze.
In other words, if some "brave" guy DID try and "save you" - HE'D be the guy I'd worry about! Cause he could do more to you than just expose himself!
You know, it is really hard to tell an uncircumsized dick from a cut one when they're hard, and if the guy was mastrubating, it was probably hard enough. So there's a hole in this story.
The only "hole" in this story is the Ass who did this. This happens way too often, i have been on the receiving end of numerous sick fuckers like this and it's scary as shit when you're stuck in a subway car while something like this is going, in fact Scary is not strong enough a word to fully describe. I mean imagine how you feel on a crowded train when everyones jammed into each others personal space well beyond the comfort zone, now add into that some derranged asshole, because 90% of the guys doing this stuff should be in a mental ward and that's why they act like oh sorry , and walk away. The D trains are like all brooklyn trains, you can't switch between cars to even get away, you're fucked, and there aren't many people that actually help, and that only makes it worse. Men in this city, at least a growing majority, are pussies.
I have to agree that a lot of men are pussies. In my neighborhood we grew up taking hits and talking smack (Italians,Albanians,Latinos). We stood up for the girls and spoke up for the little kids in the neighborhoods. But now men are such pussies that can't even speak up against injustice and cruelty. if only one of my stalkers would invite me to meet him for lunch, teeheheh
it is not hard at all to tell them apart, especially since the guy was in the process of self gratification (do not ask me to elaborate how this matters).
I can attest this City is full of cowards. Same thing happened to me on a B train when I was 16 and not one single person (mostly men) on the train did anything to come to my aid. Not that i'm bitter or anything...
"They shifted to let him through", New Yorkers are so polite.
this blog's participants are a human sample of this city's population,
anonymity makes wonders for those that really don't give a shit.
As someone who has had to see a man take out his business and start going to town on it on a 2 train, I'm glad this woman took action and shouted out at him. It's a disgusting assault on everyone.
#10: New York has indeed lost its edge. And Jen. you call that action?
Let me explain.
A similar affair happened in the 80s to a girlfriend of mine - a native Greenpointer, a real Brooklynite, not these newbie transplants.
The perv was masturbating across from her, while grinning at her the whole time the L train was underneath the East River tunnel. She patiently waited till the train got to Bedford, got up, walked over to him and began to pummel him unrelentingly over the head while everyone in the car was screaming.
As the doors were closing, she ran out and the people's screams brought a TA cop running down the stairs.
When she got outside it was raining but her umbrella couldn't open - it was so mangled from the beating she gave the pervert.
That was when New York was New York, and women behaved like women should behave, not relying on some hipster to come to her rescue.
This is quite possibly the stupidest comment of the month.
Sorry if I offended you, hipster.
She got more balls than you do
you little bitch "the Facts" you'd run out the train at the site of black guys
on another note. How did she have time to get a head on pic of the guy during all that commotion. Something in this story doesn't add up.
Matty,
It seems to me like you're keen to disbelieve Alice without possessing all the facts. Did you read either article in their entirety?
Firstly there was no commotion because no one got involved - and as the D Train travelled between Atlantic and Grand (which takes a while) - the pervert couldn't leave the train, so he just sat down. She took a picture of him because she was concerned with seeing justice be done. If more people learned to be smart and brave like this, then less people would be abused on the subway.
What's wrong with people? If they're horny just do it at home before you leave.
I've wondered what I would do in a situation like this. My current favorite fantasy is that I carry latex gloves in my bag so if this ever happens, I can slip one on, grab the guy's balls and twist, HARD.
Oh baby, give me your phone number!
As a former rider of this train (I used to get on the train at Grand Street and go uptown in the morning), I am guessing that part of the reason no one helped is because a a lot of the folks in her car simply didn't speak English. Every morning, TONS of non-fluent Chinese people get off the train at Grand Street.
That's just a theory, though. I'm sure there must've been *some* people on that train who understood what was going on and did nothing. Shame on them.
Do you really need to speak english to understand what it means when someone is rubbing their dick on someone else??? Come on.
When my mom used to take the Lexington IRT to school in early 60s, she carried a hat pin specifically for these sort of situations. In many years of commuting by train, she only once had to use it, when she felt a hand groping her leg in a subway car so crowded she couldn't tell whose hand it was. One quick jab with the pin, though, and the hand left her alone.
After that, things started to go downhill. My grandmother once told me that she stopped riding the subway in the 70s after a little girl came over to her crying because a man had just pissed in the girl's hair.
Typical Yankees fan.
What were the other people on the train supposed to do as the guy's walking away? Beat him up?
stop him from masturbating on her if there were any passengers nearby.
well actually i just read that story again and the victim states that no one could see his p-p because her arm was covering it. I guess in this case I can't accuse the other passengers of being pussies, because they did not see anything and the guy (once brought in the spotlight by the victim) did not seem to be aggressive.
true since no one nearby knew about the exposed penis on her arm. So I guess we aren't pussies after all.
How could you not see his penis because "her arm was covering it"??? I still call bullshit on this story.
I do not know how, I was not there, just repeated what the victim herself stated in her post in that link.
It is very possible that this is some bad joke, because she first states his pp was ON her arm when she felt it (while seated) and woke up, and then she says her arm was covering it - so it was UNDER or BEHIND her arm? I cant reconstruct the situation from the scarce and contradicting info she provided.
BTW, the guy's face, especially in the second shot, reminds me Charles Bronson. Most of Charles's characters in movies are the epitome of vigilante justice.
it's a penis. not a pp, for crying out loud. a penis. once again, not a pp (what are you, five?), but a penis. sorry, snarky, but that's really annoying.
I think it is possible if they were both standing for example near a corner and facing opposite direction so no one could see that his penis is out.
Kreo - grown folks (and urologists - and detectives from the Special Victims Unit) call it a "penis".
Only 5 year olds call it a "pee pee".
Exactly. Everyone is a hero on the internet.
As Total Hero Subway Rider I totally would have drop kicked the guy through the door and smashed his face into the third rail until he caught fire.
Seriously, it's going to take a lot more than a dick on your arm to convince me to intervene on behalf of a stranger. If she was so upset she should have run off the train and told the conductor or found a cop. Telling the cops later is useless.
"t's going to take a lot more than a dick on your arm to convince me to intervene on behalf of a stranger"
Nice. Let's hope you never need help someday.
Longacre is only telling the truth.
Most people, including me, would freeze in a situation like that, because it is so out of the ordinary.
Your mind tells you "My God, that man is attacking that woman ...WITH HIS PENIS!!! If he's crazy enough to do that to her - who knows what he might do to ME if I intervened?"
That is how the typical psychologically healthy adult would respond to that situation.
oh man, I can't stop laughing after reading all the double-entendres in the article.
42 replies to THIS crap? Wow.
I wonder how you douchebags will react when YOU finally wake-up and discover that Goldman Sachs was dumping a nice fresh hot load on YOUR FACES and then walking away triumphantly.
Learn to box, girls.
A guy tried to feel up my chest on the 7 and I gave him my most fabulous right hook.
A sharp gasp from him, and away he went.
A hook doesn't need a lot of room on a crowded train. Just room to swivel the hips.
Now THAT'S a good idea!
Finally a PRACTICAL suggestion - one that doesn't rely on passive dependence on the chivalry of random men you don't know!
Women - listen to Newsyspice - take boxing lessons and learn to be your own hero cause nobody's going to rescue you but you!
Goldman Sachs will be delivering a different substance.
So the solution women have when facing pervs is to kick the crap out of them?
What about civil behavior from all those that are not pervs?
What about behaving like adults with a functional brain and act against this without use of violence?
It seems the further we get in this so called "civil society",
the bigger gun wins.
A brain is for suckers!
Amanda,
If a man is masturbating on you and assaulting you with his penis, he's committing a violent act - extremely violent.
If you respond passively, he will think you like it (that's how men are trained to think when it comes to women and sex in our society - if you don't know that, have a frank, no holds barred, honest conversation with guys you know - and tell them to talk to you as if you were a guy (cause normally most of us lie to you women to avoid hurting your feelings)
But if you respond violently (the way a man would if he was being attacked) they know you don't like it, they'll be shocked by a woman not being passive, and they will back off most of the time (because most men have fragile egos, and are terrified of being beaten up - even Mike Tyson is afraid to get his ass kicked, so you know the average subway jerkoff perv is)
So yes, there is no room for reason or civilization when it comes to guys who want to molest you.
They're working from the brain stem, not the cerebrum - it's total reptilian bran time.
So you've got to get reptile on their ass.
If NYC legalized carrying concealed weapons, this would not be so common. These type of people would be afraid to try anything stupid. As a result of banning concealed weapons, criminals enjoy people being unarmed and do whatever they want. Therefore, no one, will ever try to become the good samaritan or the "good hero" of the day because such person would be so afraid of what a criminal would be carrying. Sorry, but when thinking about this, yes, I guess we are pussies.
Sure. Because what we really want in crowded subway cars is for victims of any kind of offense to whip out a gun and start firing.
The fact is that even in almost any U.S. state with CCW laws, it wouldn't be legal to brandish or use a gun in this circumstance. He didn't commit a felony; he didn't use deadly force. If the victim or a witness had fired a weapon, that would be the person facing more serious charges.
New York's gun laws are completely irrelevant to this story.
I once saw a young Black woman defend herself against a sexual assault on the subway by an older Eastern European man (I'd guess Polish based on his accent, but he could have been Czech, Slovak, Lithuanian or Ukrainian, I wasn't 100% sure)
He walked up to her, grabbed her ass and squeezed.
She pulled an xacto knife out of her sleeve, unsheathed the blade, grabbed his hand and slashed.
The cops intervened shortly thereafter - took them both on the downtown plat at 59th/Columbus Circle and chased away the onlookers.
But she was in tears and was LOUDLY telling her story so everybody could hear - and he was in deny, deny, deny it-was-just-an-accident-I-only-bumped-into-her-butt-with-my-hand mode.
But I'm sure she got his undivided attention.
And a pistol would REALLY get a perv's attention - and it would make the papers, and serve as an object lesson to other pervs.
Now, armed with that info, here's an action plan - call your State Senator and Assemblyperson, and demand they restore the Second Amendment rights of New York City Residents by repealing the Sullivan Law of 1919
That's the law that denied us the right to have pistols - Assemblyman Sullivan was afraid that New York immigrants might want to put on a road show version of the Bolshevik Revolution, so he persuaded the State Legislature to disarm us.
90 years later, and we're still disarmed.
I never mentioned any guns, i said concealed weapons. That could mean anything from a knife to a pepper spray. But if you say guns, then so be it.
Hindsight is easy, makes you realize how vulnerable you are in those cars. Can't exit the car, make a call, contact a station attendant, etc. Too many apathetic people who "don't want to get involved". It's difficult to believe she yelled at the whole train car and no one did or said anything. I've seen so many New Yorkers help other people on the cars in shitty situations. My guess is he did the sneak attack on her ran to the other side of the train, no one saw anything and she comes screaming through the car yelling at everyone. Unfortunately we are so attuned to drowning out the subway wacko with the ipod it's hard to tell when someone is in trouble. I have seen women upset and directly ask a person for help and they've always helped.
Hi, I'm the victim and you've got that right. I think the summary of this article cuts out some details that makes the timeline flow better. I actually sat in my seat in shock for a few seconds after I screamed at the passengers for help, trying to figure out what to do. That was when I took my phone out and pursued. He was sitting down at the other end, trying to ignore me. In hindsight, I wish I gave him a few whacks with my umbrella too when I found him.
Regardless or whether or not people believe me (as long as the police believe me -- and they questioned me for hours -- it's cool), I'm glad the word and his photo is getting out there.
If you were both sitting down, then either (1) he was already on top of you or (2) your arm was on top of his thigh or (3) he has an extraordinary reach.
No -- I was sitting down and he was standing up next to the door. I was in the seat closest to the door that was separated only by one thin metal bar. He was turned facing me.
The picture I took of him has him sitting down because after I screamed, he went to the other side of the train and sat down. That's when I followed him.
It is sooooo fkn easy to see when a posting comes from a man or a woman.
Guess who's cynical, and totally unconcern about the victims situation, and who's actually endures most of the violence?
I totally agree, Amanda. I wonder if they would feel the same if it were their mother/daughter/wife in that situation.
Good for you Alice, and I'm sorry, on behalf of my gender, this happened to you. Disgusting. I also hope the trolls on Gothamist don't get you down -- as the weekend approaches they tend to get nastier because they're pissed mom's taking over the basement for her canasta club.
Thanks for the encouragement, John. It's really good to hear supportive words.
how come there are no female subway masturbators?
like some woman who just whips out the rabbit, and goes to town!
I had some chick completely grab my cock on the train once. Unintentionally though. We were standing on opposite sides of a poll and she was reading a book with one hand and holding the poll with the other. When she let go of the poll to turn the page the train lurched and she reached back quickly for the poll and grabbed my dick instead (she was short). Around 30 seconds later she glanced up at me real quick and then went back to her book. But we both knew what happened.
So I yelled for help, took her picture, beat her senseless and threw her out the door at the next stop.
Stop riding around with your dick out, vertical and freestanding.
He's a filthy piece of rubbish, plan and simple, looking to use women as objects. This loser couldn't manage a conversation with a woman, and he deludes himself into thinking that this is a conquest of sorts. He should be locked away for good. I don't want this sh*t on the streets with my daughter or my wife.
He's a filthy piece of rubbish, plan and simple, looking to use women as objects. This loser couldn't manage a conversation with a woman, and he deludes himself into thinking that this is a conquest of sorts. He should be locked away for good. I don't want this sh*t on the streets with my daughter or my wife.
Your daughter and wife have already had it done to them.
i didnt read all the replies but has anyone said this sure gives new meaning to "riding the D train"? get it? because he pulled out his D and rubbed it on her. D stands for his dick. and she was riding the train. and the train, ironically (not used correctly), was the "D" train. the very same train in which a 'd' got rubbed on her while she listened to her ipod? i find this hilarious.
I don't get it
also some lady "crab clawed" my penis once on the 6. it was packed (surprise surprise) and i felt a three-pronged grab right on my penis as i was excited at 23rd st. i was startled and thought it must have been an accident but in retrospect no one "crab claws" a penis by accident.
Also, I'm not sure if running after the guy and taking a picture of him was the right thing to do. What if he decided to shoot you? I would have just tried to get away as fast as possible...if I was a helpless victim.
Trivializing an attack by making fun of the only person that actually did something; the victim?
That's what I call a useless coward!
You two are such manly beasts! WINNERS!
Don't forget your lame neuron on your way out!
Wow my own dedicated internet troll! I'm flattered!
Good kink is always wasted on the prudes...
@ ALICE: If you're still reading these comments, you have my deep sympathy and understanding. I rode the D train in my teens, more than 50 years ago, and similar things happened to me more than a few times, even back then. It's really a shame that NYC hasn't figured out how to make the subways safe. Ignore the potty mouths who've posted here. The best comment/suggestion is the hat pin, but you might be putting yourself at risk by doing that.
how did I JUST notice this? let me get it all out at once...
Ahhh!! Penis, boobies, hipsters, fags, NYU Kids, swine flu, Woody, and KFC!!
That's NYC, some guy jerks off on a chick and no one notices or cares.
You can hate the west coast all you wan0, but on the subway in LA, the whole train would have beat the shit out of the guy...then turned him into the cops.
Honestly, there are places in NYC that might have done just that, but unfortunately this wasn't one of them.
But the whole train in LA is just three drunk guys looking for a fight.