ManRam a ManSham: Fertility Drug Causes 50 Game Suspension

perhaps he was planning to get pregnant?

Manny is lucky Jen Carlson is not on the case.

So "Man Ram" takes female hormones?

Perhaps we should be calling him "Manuela" Ramirez!

I don't give a crap who uses steroids, I just don't want to know about it. We were all perfectly happy when we just presumed certain players were doing them. Add baseball to the list of things George Bush fucked up.

Baseball is the Lehman Bros. of pro sports.

Wow, lots of people commenting on a subject about which I couldn't give two shits.

Professional athletes take performance-enhancing drugs.

In other news, piss is yellow.

ARod's is cloudy.

Bud Selig earns around $18million a year. Imagine that!

What a fucking joke.

ESPN says:

However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is HCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907

Major League Baseball is for suckers...

The Dodgers are clobbering the NL West and MLB announces Ramirez is canned for 50 games?

Sounds like someone at headquarters did a cost-benefit analysis.

this doesn't bode well for my fantasy baseball team.

It sounds like BS- the Sex Drive thing and he or his Dr didn't think to consult the list of banned substances, that's horse shit, they just gave him the medicine most easily used for a scape goat should they test him. F&ck him.

Ompotence is also a side effect of roid use isn't it??

Not necessarily

Viagra is banned in many sports for its instant energy boost - cycling being one the them

well that's my first, you wanna tell me, that a Dr of his(someone of his caliber & necessity to any BB club he's in) didn't check a list to make sure. And from what i can see in google search results Viagra is not yet included in the list.

Impotence

I guess Jose Canseco was right after all...

I am glad that Manny now joins the list of PED users...and that it taints the Red Sox Championships that he was a part of. Wait what...but he's a Dodger now...YEAH OK...seems real convenient that he was traded away from Boston just in the nick of time...further proves George Mitchell and his steroid investigation was smoke and mirrors...but mainly up in Beantown...Hey Papi...get your apology written out...your next.

The Sox traded him because his contract was almost up and it was clear he did not want to re-sign with them. They got Jason Bay out of the deal who, at the moment, is kicking a ton of ass, btw.

baseball is a sham sport. All the best players either are using steroids, have used steroids, or are turning a blind eye and therefore condoning steroids. All you sucker fans who are still into this tainted sport are idiots! the last 4 yankees world championships don't mean shit anymore and neither do the red sox world championships. the home run records don't mean shit too. To root for a steroid user making millions is like rooting for them to fuck your wife and mother at the same time.

And how about the NFL? Maybe at the height of it's popularity now? And how many players in the NFL use "performance enhancing drugs"? 50% might only be a conservative estimate. And how about the NBA? How many of those players are high on the court each night? And I don't mean over the rim.

It's (not) funny how crusading sports writers apply a double standard for MLB and the rest of organized sports.

"It's (not) funny how crusading sports writers apply a double standard for MLB and the rest of organized sports."

A lot of that, comparing specifically to the NFL, comes out of how the two leagues have handled the issue. The NFL started steroid testing 20 or so years ago, has been open about the issue and has consistently at least given the appearance of trying to address the problem.

MLB at the time the NFL started dealing with steroids started instead to deny that they had a problem and covering it up... and didn't start testing until Congress forced them to.

Today, MLB essentially says the problem is almost nonexistent, the past is the past, etc. The NFL tweaks its list of banned substance every year, and makes a financial contribution to research on developing effective HGH testing.

Basically the differing approaches have left the media feeling that MLB is trying to pull the wool over their eyes (which of course means they have to get to the bottom of it all), but that the NFL deserves a little slack.

yeah, the thing is that the NFL has a stricter steroid testing procedure. They haven't had many high profile cases and the players don't get paid as much as mlb players. When they start announcing every couple of months that a star NFL player has juiced then you should throw away your jerseys like I did my yankee caps but until then it's all MLB drug addicts all the time.

The NFL is much more savvy than the Bud Selig led MLB. The NFL has murderers and gangbangers playing for their teams, and they are celebrated as heroes.

what do you want? for me to say the nfl is just as guilty as the MLB to justify you still rooting for the MLB even though you are in denial and they don't even correlate? okay, the nfl sucks and the MLB sucks. Read this and weep for baseball. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090507&sportCat=mlb

The NFL has had a pretty strict policy for 20 years, including mandatory suspensions and year-round testing.

It's highly unlikely that 50% is a 'conservative estimate', imo.

However I agree that there is a kind of double standard. I think this exists because several long-standing records were broken by players who were allegedly juicing.

The players in the NFL are that size naturally? By weight lifting and carbo loading? I don't believe it. The NFL can claim to have a policy - but they don't want to kill the cash cow.

I don't believe it isn't a very convincing argument.

Olympic weightlifters, wrestlers and shot putters are also huge. Do you believe the IOC has a poor testing policy, too?

I see plenty of fat people walking around. Are they all juicing too?

Yes, I do believe the IOC has a poor testing policy.

And yes, there are lots of fat people out there. But the NFL is filled with over-muscled players, whom would not look out of place in the WWF.

And I guess "pro" wrestlers aren't on the juice either...

turns out it was a women's fertility drug.

um...

yeah.

that's what two sources anyway.

oh that manny!

(it's used to recover testerone production after steroid cycles apparently. still, that's not what he tested positive for!)

journalism fail calling the banned substance "steroids" even before confirmation. I bet it was mary jane.

biggest loser in baseball.. he even trumps a-rod

I think he goes by A-Roid now.

c'mon billy parker, the substance is as yet unidentified and could be a number of things that AREN'T steroids. which would make your headline grossly misleading.

PED is the proper term right now.

my bet, ritalin. which is legal if you mention it to baseball. but manny not caring much for rules and such probably was like "fuck it."

whammy...

A+ photo usage.

Baseball fans, especially fans of the 2 NY teams, may wish their hitters had a bit of that old "juice" if the anemic hitting of both the Yanks and the Mets continues on.

but the stuff was legal in the DR?

I only go to DR doctors.

I like the padres, they have a nice ballpark.

that's right, I switch teams every year.

I heard the substance was not steroids.

Yeah, he even said it was prescribed by his doctor. I'd be curious to know what it was. It'd suck for him if it was something seemingly innocuous, like an antihistamine, and he just failed to do his due diligence in checking the banned list before taking it. That's certainly what his statement tries to make it sound like...but who knows.

This is crazy, but what it if it was medical marijuana? (He is in California, after all...)

go giants! = )

Just Manny being Manny

I'm loving Junior Griffey even more. Next up -- Pujols.

50 days, bush league man, in Pro Cycling you get banned for 2 years, Selig is a joke.

oh, and, SUCK IT ROD SUX FANS!

I really don't know where you are going with this. It's like saying that your own steroid users "Giambi, a-rod, knoblauch, pettite, clemens" are better than the red sox's manny and varitek ( I know varitek didn't test positive but just look at him! totally on roids)

Tek doesn't need roids to kick ARod's ass.

or to hit him with a glove while conveniently forgetting to take off his mask.

either way.

He plays for the Dodgers. You did know that, right? Or did you just look at the picture?

And the story thus far is that he tested positive for a prescription drug, not steroids. And the prescription was written this year. So what does this have to do with Red Sox fans? Nothing.

Why wasn't Manny's name in the Mitchell report? Oh, that's right. george Mitchell is a trustee of the Boston Red Sox. If you've read the mitchell report (which I have) is it completely anecdotal and reads like a junior high term paper. He basically did a lexis-nexis search on performance enhancing drugs and baseball then reported SOME of what he found. No mention of the 16 year old Red Sox bat boy in 2000 who got caught driving Manny Alexander's car with manny ramirez' steroids in the trunk. Or the fact that the kid was fired by the red Sox after taking the heat and Manny Alexander was released. Then, after the season, manny Ramirez signs with the Red Sox and the kid is rehired as an asst. to manny on Manny's payroll, not the team's.

Why was ARod's name leaked by four (4!) different people and 103 other names never mentioned?! The biggest name hidden in the scandal? That's right. Manny Ramirez. Keep rooting for this sociopathic douche and his 68 year old man bullying ways.

Also, no mention of Oritz, Varitek, Millar, Mueller, Nixon, Walker, Timlin, kapler or any other of the obvious users on that team. Look at the steep decline they all (except Ortiz) took after 2003.

Not to mention the false leak that Johnny Damon's name was on the list...

if you actually read the report, you'd see what a syham the "investigation" was. The only worthwhile things in there are the cancelled checks and personal letters from players to Ramdoski, etc. And that shit came from the FBI. Mitchell did nothing except put out pro-Boston propoganda for selig.

Give me a break. Those names weren't on the list because the only people who talked were McNamee and Radomski.

Read the report. David segui talked. A lot. Paul LoDuca talked. A lot. Dan naulty. Jason grimsley. I obviously don't have it in front of me but there were a bunch of players who named names. Or, you could not read the report and just go with "just Radomski and macnamee talked"...

Why just one of 104 names leaked? Why does one named get "acidentally" leaked by 4 different people? Was it Scooter Libby?

Why did gabe kapler suddenly go to play in japan when steroid testing came in? Is it because he was one of the most widely know steroid guys when he was with Detroit? or, is this coincidence?

i believe you just ManRammed SP.

It has everything to do with the Rod Sux because he played there for about 10 years. If you believe the whole "medication" thing, then you are a complete sucker (but all knew that already anyway)

And of course, you can prove all of your accusations? In the end it may turn out to be that Manny has been using for a decade but no facts have been released yet. So, as usual, you're talking out of your ass.

The court of public opinion has skewered many a player before on much less. Manny and his tenure with Boston get no free passes. Last I checked Mark McGuire never failed any drug tests.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't testing much back when McGwire played. But McGwire admitted to taking androstenedione and Canseco claimed he personally injected McGwire with steroids. Throw in the embarrassing appearance in front of Congress in 2005 and McGwire sure looks guilty of something. You're burying Manny 10 minutes after the story broke.

Anyway, ESPN is now saying that the drug in question might be HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a fertility drug for women that is "used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO."

So, to reiterate, HAHA!!!

WOW!!!!!!!

HA HA HA, cocky mother f'er, NOW the truth comes out, and i couldn't be HAPPIER!