Graffiti haters rejoice: justice has been served. The Daily News reports that the tag happy globetrotter Danielle Bremner (aka Utah) will be doing some time behind bars for charges she faced in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx. The damages in those boroughs caused by her tags is estimated to be around $35,000 (of a $100,000 bill of damages she's racked up worldwide), and she will be paying back just $10,000 of that as part of a plea deal. Her boyfriend and partner in crime, Jim Clay Harper, still has charges pending against him. And perhaps one day, upon their release, they'll have a nice, civilized chat in a book store with the vandal squad.





WHOOOO WHOOOO!!
Make them scrub the paint off as part of the punishment.
I can't stand Graffiti Taggers
WHOOOO WHOOOO!!
Make them scrub the paint off as part of the punishment.
I can't stand Graffiti Taggers
"The damages in those boroughs caused by her tags is estimated to be around $35,000 (of a $100,000 bill of damages she's racked up worldwide)..."
i'm curious where they come up with these numbers? it almost never makes sense. also, how do you prove who really did the graffiti based on just a name? as artists, it is very easy to copy someone else's graffiti...
my philisophy on graffitti/street art is - if you do it over advertsing - someone using public space to sell something - then its benifits society - then its a art over something thats already invasive
if you do it on someone elses property that isnt being used to advertise - even a brick wall exists in the public space as someones asethtic choice - if you mark up someones brick wall, cause you think your taste in art is better than mine, then, you're an asshole.
After their release, they can be extradited to Boston and France, where they face other charges. With luck, they'll get additional jail time.
Good.
I've seen countless ways to express your art publically in NYC without damaging the property.
WHo fucking cares?
Offensively, it is obvious the people on this comment post did not grow up in the city. Too bad for you people, as you understand very little of the greater implications. Only a suburban person would actually take the time to figure out a way for street art to be a serious criminal offense. Graffiti has been the art of the city for many years, and therefore, in reality, serious criminalization is an overextention of government authority.
I only hope that when you need the police, and they are not around, you take a second look at your thought process, and understand this is a good example of wasteful government action. Not only is Danielle Bremner's "illegal" art work terrific, but she probably adds a little culture to what are these above commentors boring and uncreative lives. Property damage? Yeh. So hard to paint a wall over. Please.
I only wish the graffiti we usualy get was so nice. The city should hire this artist, not waste money sending her up the river.
it would be one thing if her self-promoting tags had any redeeming aesthetic value, but they're just ugly. It's not street art. It's vandalism.
You are so full of shit. You talk tough, but when push comes to shove, taggers are all just a bunch of pussies, which is why they skulk around out of sight in the darkness. If you're so sure that what you're doing is right and great, why don't you do it in the open and in broad daylight then take the consequences? If people really support you, there'll be protests and angry letters to the editors demanding you be freed. But no, you already know that you'd get no such support. Instead, angry, "uncultured suburbanites" from Brooklyn and the other boroughs would be lining up to shove your paint cans where the sun doesn't shine.
Charles, a lot of us grew up in the city, but, unlike you, many are older than 17. Nevertheless, I agree with you. Graffiti art is true art.
So, to promote this fine art form, how about you let us know where we can find you, and we'll do what we did in the old Brooklyn = carve "B.B." (for Baldie Beans) or some similar 'tag' on your forehead, and you can exhibit the joys of graffiti art for the entire world to witness the wisdom of your words and the thrill of this legitimate art form.
I can assure you I grew up in the city, and since I was very young I always thought graffiti was ugly and destructive. Sure, there are a few graffiti murals and tribute paintings and such that I like, but 99.9% of the graffiti we see looks exactly the same, all very similarly styled bubble letters of someone's "tag." Explain to me the artistic value of the word "Utah" painted on a wall, when it looks exactly the same as some schmuck who calls himself "Slice" which looks exactly the same another douchebag called "Doctor" all on the same wall.
Offensively, it is obvious the people on this comment post did not grow up in the city.
I GREW UP in NYC during the height of the entire tagging era of the 70s and 80s. So how come I can't seem to have all these warm and fuzzy feelings about graffiti that you have? Hmmm... maybe because 99% of it was a garish, ugly, hideous eyesore, like what you see in this photograph (obviously taken in the 70s):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2181448477_552cef84e8.jpg
So spare me with the "you didn't grow up in the city" B.S.. I don't think you did, either. Hell, I KNOW you didn't! Based on your pseudo-intellectual ramblings on the value of graffiti, you're either a poser who didn't grow up in the city either or-- if you did-- one of these babies born after the 1970s who never experienced this period firsthand but keeps romanticizing it from all those retarded Urban Outfitters coffee table books. You know the ones-- those so-called "urban art" anthologies that only show you the few colorful, artistic, and exceptional pieces of graffiti (like Keith Haring's work or the Five Points building), as opposed to the MILLIONS of illegible scrawls in plain ol' black or white paint by uneducated, bored teens with not one artistic bone in their bodies, who were using graffiti not so much as artistic expression but as a way to mark their territory or see which challenging structure they could deface.
So give me a break with your snide comments that we're all probably just "suburbannites." You come off as the biggest clueless suburbannite more than anyone here, because there is barely a New Yorker who was alive and well during the 70s and 80s who misses the graffiti from that era or remembers it fondly.
AMEN Charlesbklyn. We need to get rid of All theze F@#$%&*^ People from Idaho who complain about Graffiti & Ice Cream Truck Music. I'm sick of them all! Go back to your Wooden Cabins & pick trucks. Send back commentor Spiritof76 Too. P@#$& He Is.
Thanks for being one of the few people who don't have asinine beliefs on this issue.
Graffiti...get over it - It's an art form.
People are worried about the city looking diry?
Clean the piss up off the streets and give the people who stink a bank - That's what really makes this city dirty.
send her away and use her as an example. the city needs to crack down on these people.
Charles, please tell me where you live. Because tonight I am going to come over and spray paint dicks all over your place...hundreds of them, b/c that is 'art' and I think its 'terrific' and 'adds a little culture'. Sorry if you dont agree, but you can not interfere with my art. Then, I am going to come by the next morning and watch as you paint over the wall and I expect you to whistle while you work.
I'd hit it.
That only took 3 hours. Bravo!
graffiti is a crime!
crime pays!
So emotional, the outbursts on this issue; it is always nice to see a man (or woman) succum to their emotions. You see, you cry ... and then you cry again. (That's a NY joke).
Ah ... maybe it comes from the realization that for all your years in New York, there is something missing: a New York state of mind?
Come on, doesn't this "art" make these train cars a more attractive, interesting, and more a "New York" experience? I know the tourists from Europe love this stuff.
Sample of her graffiti
So sad to see the city change. Now I am emotional.
On a more serious note, please do not threaten me on this post. This is a "friendly" discussion, not a chance to anonyomously threaten to come down to my crib. Sorry; crib = place where you reside.
Obvoiusly, Chaz, this is not a "friendly" discussion. And I would hope your use of quotation marks around the word illegal in your first post are merely an reflection of the New School's inattention to teaching grammar. People are angry about vandalism. It was, and is, illegal. Owners (even the public) have rights over their property. She violated those owners' rights by vandalism; hence her conviction and sentencing. Visit the Louvre, British Museum, the Met. That's art. The New York experience requires graffiti just as much as it requires getting beaten and raped while jogging in Central Park (see below, before your time). I bet she's sorry to see the city change too. Paint all you want, exhibit, express. But do it on your own stuff.
Honestly, why are people so against an art form. Yes it is an abrasive art form, but it is how people creatively express themselves. This was especially the case in the 80's when you were either a dope fiend or a tagger in NYC- its how people cope and escape. And way to wish bad upon people, your a true douche bag. Also, do people realize what the city would look like with out all of this street art- it helps make the city what it is. Graffiti really spawned in NYC and wont leave anytime soon. love it or leave.
No, kids, sorry to talk about before you were born, but in the 80's I was a med student who worked as a longshoreman to pay my tuition. I wasn't a dope fiend or a tagger. Rode the subs, looked at the urban blight and vandalism, never advocated violence against anyone, still have a real job and try to enjoy the city I was born in. It's an art form when you paint on your own stuff. When you paint/etch/express on what you don't own (and that means public property), it's vandalism. It's abusive, it's illegal, it's not cool, and it's so, so,so lame. Learn art, create art, express art, the world is your canvas. As long as it's YOUR canvas.
And, nobody needs to love it or leave. Graf adds nothing to this city, except to those who have nothing else to do. I won't be leaving, I will express my distaste of vandalism, and hope that the law will continue to be a tool to make vandals either respect the common good, or leave. Upstate. In an orange jumpsuit and sandals. Until they learn to live in a civilized society.
GRAFFITI HEARTTHROB!
I'M IN LOVE!
fist of all i want to thank all those loyal followers of the graffiti art scene, and second i know we all share our own views on graffiti and what it means and what it stands for....but who the hell gave you all the right to judge them for es[resing them selfs, i my self am a graggiti artist and it has taken me years to aquire my skills and talents. the work and time that it takes to creat an art work of that magnitude i support them in everything they did, and they are trylly amzing artist...and anyone who disagrees well...i trylly really dont care your opinion is not needed.and again thank you to all those who support graffiti..
what i wouldnt give to see the reaction on bremners face when she got stoppped at the airport. especially when she thought she was slick for arriving at chicago instead of ny. i can just see it, because ive been there myself. she hands the passport to the guard dog, and he's says, madam, please step to the side. they put her in a room alone in the dept of homeland security. man, she must have been scared to death. haha. priceless. in all honesty, 6 months is not a long time, especially for something they put on high alert like this. i dont think they stop very many people entering the usa that have warrants, and extraditing someone from chicago to ny is a pretty big deal. she must have had some really good lawyers to get her off like this.
Whatever she's cute.