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Ha! Stupid spammer tries to put his ad on Gothamist and can't even format his spam link right. I love it.

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that story

DETAINED WITH MY DAUGHTER BY NEW YORK CITY POLICE

is easily searched,

while most lawyers would say

dont talk to police without a lawyer

dont answer questions without lawyer

dont sign anything

dont consent to any search without a warrant

him and his wife was obviously gave up their rights

even when it seemed that the daughter was used as a bargaining chip to give up those rights

he posted a story that does not stand up to scrutiny (google it)

and left alot out to make himself look like the victim of harassment

he is a questionable character with a history of questionable online statements and questionable conduct with children...

just google "Officer Cea, Badge No. 2396"

still in america, even as a well documented asshole with questionable interests in moniors he did not exercize his constitutional rights

I believe it, lived it. Hysteria and Mass "illusionary fault finding" for profit.

Cost of locking up Americans too high - Pew study

Mon Mar 2, 2009 7:44pm GMT

WASHINGTON, March 2 (Reuters) - One in every 31 U.S. adults is in the corrections system, which includes jail, prison, probation and supervision, more than double the rate of a quarter century ago, according to a report released on Monday by the Pew Center on the States.

The study, which said the current rate compares to one in 77 in 1982, concluded that with declining resources, more emphasis should be put on community supervision, not jail or prison.

"Violent and career criminals need to be locked up, and for a long time. But our research shows that prisons are housing too many people who can be managed safely and held accountable in the community at far lower cost," said Adam Gelb, director of the Center's Public Safety Performance Project, which produced the report.

The United States has the highest incarceration rate and the biggest prison population of any country in the world, according to figures from the U.S. Department of Justice.

Most of those in the U.S. corrections system -- one in 45 -- are already on probation or parole, with one in 100 in prison or jail, the Pew study found.

Those numbers are higher in certain areas of the country, and Georgia tops all states with one in 13 adults in the justice system. The other leading states are Idaho, where one in 18 are in corrections and Texas, where the rate is one in 22. In the nation's capital, Washington, D.C., nearly 5 percent of adults are in the city's penal system.

This was the first criminal justice study that took into account those on probation and parole as well as federal convicts, Pew said.

'STATES SPENDING TOO MUCH'

The numbers are also concentrated among groups, with a little more than 9 percent of black adults in prisons or jails or on probation or parole, as opposed to some 4 percent of Hispanics and 2 percent of whites.

Pew compiled the report as states consider cutting corrections spending during the recession. The research group said that by changing sentencing laws and probation programs states can lower incarceration rates and save money.

"Among the many programs that are competing for scarce taxpayer dollars, there is one area of the state budget that could use some trimming, and that area is corrections," said Susan Urahn, the center's managing director, in a call with reporters. "The bottom line is that states are spending too much."

Penitentiary systems have been the fastest-growing spending area for states after Medicaid, the healthcare program for those with low income. Over the last 20 years their spending on criminal justice has increased more than 300 percent, the study found.

During the last 25 years prison and jail populations have grown 274 percent to 2.3 million in 2008, according to the Pew research, while those under supervision grew 226 percent over the same span to 5.1 million.

I don't necessarily believe this. If all this was really true, and as egregious as it sounds, why hasn't this guy contacted an attorney or taken it to the media???

to think that to teach this very basics, is like teaching rocket science...the resistance of the rule of the stronger idiot.

Just in my email today, from a list I subscribe to. I've edited this a bit, as it's long, and I've removed the names and specific ages of the "victims", but I've left in the names of the police officers. This is, to the best of my knowledge, all true, and another reason why the NYPD has a bad rap:

DETAINED WITH MY DAUGHTER BY NEW YORK CITY POLICE

On Saturday April 4, 2009 at about 9:00 PM I was standing with my

---year-old daughter on the subway platform of the Uptown Bound

Number 2 Train at the 34th Street and Penn Station station of the New

York City subway system, when I was approached by a New York City

Police Officer, Officer Cea, Badge No. 2396.

Officer Cea asked me who was the young lady with me. I replied that

she was my daughter, aged 7. Officer Cea then asked to see my

ID. I provided him with my drivers license. He then asked me a number

of other questions such as what school my daughter attended, the

address where we lived, whether I was married and living with the

mother of the child and so on. I politely answered each of his

questions.

At about that time, the Number 2 Train for which I had been waiting

arrived as we were on our way home in the Bronx. I attempted to board

the train with my daughter. Officer Cea grabbed both me and my

daughter by the arms, pulling us off so that we could not board the

train. He then called for back up and about five more police officers

arrived. When I asked Officer Cea why he was doing this, he said that

he “had a hunch”. The police then took my daughter a few feet away and

questioned her outside of my presence. We were then taken down to the

police station inside Penn Station.

I was put into one room and my daughter was put into another room

where I could not see her. I observed about four police going into the

sealed room to question her.

Soon, some higher ranking police officers arrived including a

Lieutenant and a Captain. They called my wife, who was at home and she

verified that I was her husband and the father of our daughter. I also

provided the officers with ID including the medical cards for my

daughter, which they copied.

Finally, after more than one hour of this inquisition, they decided to

take us home in a police car. The police officer driving was Sargent Winding. I directed him to my

house in the Bronx. However, near my house he paused his police car in

front of a Sunoco Gas Station. I asked what he was waiting for and he

said that he was waiting for another police car to come down from Mt.

Vernon, who was stuck in traffic.

I kept asking him and also the lady police officer who was in the back

seat with me what Mt. Vernon had to do with this. They said that they

needed a police officer from Mt. Vernon because this was in their

district. However, I knew that this was not true because, even though

Mt. Vernon borders on the Bronx, it is nowhere near to where I live.

After about 10 or 15 more minutes, the police car from Mt. Vernon

arrived and then the two cars drove up to the apartment building where

I live.

I called my wife on my cell phone, informing her that we were outside

and she came out. I was able to see the police officers accompany my wife into the

building.

It was obvious that they proceeded to search my apartment. After about

15 minutes more, Officer Winding came out and let my ---year-old

daughter out of the front seat, where she was still locked inside, and

she ran to rejoin her mother. Sargent Winding pulled me out of the

back seat too, as I had been forced to lie down in the back seat, but

then the police officer from Mt. Vernon ordered me back into the back

seat, so I had to get back in and was locked inside again.

There followed a discussion between Officer Winding and my wife. My

wife asked him what he was going to do with me, as I was still locked

inside the police car. He replied that I was going to be let out too.

Finally, Sargent Winding asked my wife to sign something that looked

like a ticket book. My wife signed it. It was then that I was let out

of the police car and allowed to return to my apartment with my

family.

This entire ordeal lasted a little over two hours, as I got back into

my apartment a few minutes after 11:00 PM.

My wife and daughter are traumatized by this incident. My wife wants

to move to another city and does not want

to live in New York City any more, as she is afraid of the police.

My wife says that when the police officers were inside searching our

apartment, they asked her questions of a sexual nature. They asked her

if she had a boyfriend.

I still do not know what this was all about. I am especially wondering

about the Mt. Vernon connection.

I am now afraid to go anywhere with my daughter. I feel that I should

bring a court case against the City of New York for doing this. Any

advice would be appreciated.

If it's true, they should go to the press. I'm sure the Post or the Daily News would love a story like that. At the very least, his wife shouldn't have signed whatever it was (she should have known what it was, you don't sign anything without reading it) and they should sue for millions. If they just hide scared in their apartment, the police will just keep doing this to others.

It's a start. Dunno if it will do much good-many cops, it seems, regard photography as suspicious activity since taking photos in the subway is not something they would do.

"Go take pictures of squirrels" is one quote.

www.forgotten-ny.com

it is illegal to use a tripod on nyc streets without a permit. and to obtain a permit you need insurance. this is in the event that someone trips over your tripod and sues the city.

that being said, the whole "be nice to cops and they will be nice back" is bullshit.

Those rules were revised last year:

"Permits will not be required for casual photographers, tourists, credentialed members of the media, or other members of the public who do not use vehicles or equipment or assert exclusive use of City property."

"A permit is not required for filming that uses hand-held cameras or tripods and does not assert exclusive use of City property."

From http://www.nyc.gov/html/film/html/news/070108_moftb_adopts_rules.shtml

Wouldn't it be nice if the fearful general population didn't assume I'm nefarious because I'm an artist with a lens. If only the public can also learn what is legal so they don't fear me when I use a camera with a tripod. If I could afford a digital one then maybe I'd look more like a tourist and not get harassed on the street.

Don't real criminals have tiny hidden spy cameras anyway?

A. "fed guards" aren't NYPD officers. They are Federal Officers. Not the same departmet whatsoever.

B. There is alot of anti police sentiment here. Let's all calm down. Do we forget that criminals are always far worse for NYC than cops on the occasional power trip? (Excluding the actual criminal conduct that happens. Criminals, badge or not should be jailed.)

Generally speaking if you treat the officer with respect and consideration you will be extended the same courtesy.

Yeah sure right. A.C.A.B.

Generally speaking if you treat the officer with respect and consideration you will be extended the same courtesy.

Generally speaking, yes. But considering how much power they have over individual citizens, it's right to be outraged and dismayed by the 5% of the time (probably a conservative estimate, in my experience) that they act like brutish, uncivilized, arrogant thugs.

Yeah but watching that cop shove that Critical Masshole dipshit to the ground was awesome, I wish that would happen to all Crictical Massholes.

Oh yeah! Unwarranted violent assaults by the police against an innocent civilian is HIGH-larious! The next time it happens to you make sure to get it on video and post it on youtube so we can all have a good LOL over it!

"Oh yeah! Unwarranted violent assaults by the police against an innocent civilian is HIGH-larious!"

It is when it happens to Critical Massholes.

"Generally speaking if you treat the officer with respect and consideration you will be extended the same courtesy."

OK, but remind me again: what was it about these people legally taking photographs in a public space that showed their lack of respect and consideration towards police officers?

There is alot of anti police sentiment here.

Maybe for a lot of folks here, that's based on a lifetime of experiences with the NYPD? And these are folks who follow the laws.