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Well, it's still unclear whether police used tear gas in breaking up this morning's student occupation of a New School on Fifth Avenue and 13th Street, but this striking video shows that plenty of pepper spray was liberally applied. Earlier today, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne told City Room it was “untrue that pepper spray or mace was used in effectuating the arrests." Could it be he was fibbing? See for yourself, but only if you want your faith in NYPD flacks utterly shattered.
The video was shot by freelance journalist Brandon Jourdan. What you're looking at in the beginning is a side door at the building, through which students were trying to escape as police went through the front to make arrests. Jourdan's steady camerawork eventually pulls back to show the pandemonium on the sidewalks by the New School, where many students had gathered to get their fair share of abuse.
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People who use the word "effectuating" should be maced.
What a bunch of whiney douchebags. Go watch clips of Columbia protesters from 68' with blood running down their faces STILL fighting back against cops. "Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh!" Shut up you little trustafarian turd. You storm a building and the LEAST you should expect is pepper spray.
why isn't the Press leaning on the lies the NYPD are putting out????? Nothing on eyestupid news on the lie Browne told.
OT, I hope The Unusuals gets canceled.
Too true. Ray Kelly must have pictures.
Gee, I feel much safer knowing that kid isn't roaming the streets, yelling at whomever he pleases.
Would these self-proclaimed anarchists just go away?
they are pathetic. I'm glad Bob Kerrey just called in the NYPD this time to make the problem go away. Enough pandering to the brats.
As a Navy seal, Kerrey personally slit the throats of an old men, a women and three children in Vietnam. Those are the murders that came to light.
To the conservatives of Nebraska, this made him a hero, worthy to be elected to Congress.
Why on earth NYers think this guy is admirable is amazing. At least his students face up to him. They got that much balls, not like anonymous bloggers sitting behind a computer screen who criticize them and adulate a war criminal.
he did all that while a fellow SEAL was saying,
he's laughing at you! look at that! You gonna take that?!
"To the conservatives of Nebraska, this made him a hero, worthy to be elected to Congress.
Why on earth NYers think this guy is admirable is amazing."
They chose to go to the school he runs, they have the right to leave.
They also have the right to protest, like the workers or teachers who choose to work there would have the right to protest unfair conditions.
Or are you just against people who protest for change, Mr. Serf?
"Don't mace me bro!"
Couldn't resist. Anyway, using pepper spray was completely appropriate; they should be glad the cops chose that instead of swinging ASPs.
What is probably really demonstrated, though, is that "spokesmen" who weren't on the scene should not answer questions if they don't actually know the answer. If he'd just answered in the affirmative, so what? They were using non-lethal means to make arrests. By first saying "no" it becomes a big deal.
I agree that those kid are a bunch of idiots. But cops are supposed to be able to remain calm in the face of... idiots. That cop holding the helmet smacked that kid because he didn't like him yelling "shame on you." And he knew what he did was wrong - you could see him try to scurry away like a kid on a playground who hits someone harder than he meant to.
Yeah, the kids seem like a bunch of wimps, what with their squealing a such. But how about the cops? They seem way nervous. If they can't handle this group....
Lets be clear this is the NYPD. Their motto is "We own the Streets" and they mean it! Look at Kelly it all trickles down from him , arrogance, hubris, a sense that the rules don't apply to me or mine. It's sad because I see cops in this video who don't look mad or angry or out to hurt. I maintain that they have many bad apples in a large and good bunch.
Also, after he knocks the kid over, another comes over and you can hear him say, "We (or you) gotta arrest" as in, you can't just knock the guy over and not arrest. Then I love the way cops are trained to say "stop resisting" as they all sit on him.
One last point the kid may scream like a pansy, but that cop with the helmet kinds swung at him like a pansy too.
I love the asshole who is screaming "How dare you, how dare you" and then when the cops start beating him down he starts turns into a little pansy girl screaming "Oh fuck! WTF? OW OW OW OW!!!"
What a jackwad.
The kids are d-bags, but the smack that the one guy got seemed uncalled for. However, the fact that he then began screaming like a little girl makes me not care anymore.
that's a pretty high profile block, there has to be security cameras on many of those building.
to those merchants, make copies of the tape now.
I don't want to have a severe asthma attack while being maced or pepper sprayed.
If you're doing something stupid and you get maced or pepper sprayed and you have a severe asthma attack, that's your problem. You know the risks of your actions, you only would have yourself to blame.
For all those hating on the students here (I'm not terribly fond of them myself), isn't it odd that you think they're such worthless pussies, yet you seem to be fine with the NYPD sending dozens of their bravest to pepper spray said pussies (and lie about it) and then arrest a kid yelling at them? If these students are so pathetic, why did the NYPD need to treat this like they were in an urban warfare situation? We're not dealing with terrorists or scary thugs, just idealistic kids.
The kid who got arrested for yelling at them, totally gonna sue for unlawful arrest.
It's one thing for dumb cops to get busted tackling a bicyclist when he didn't realize he was being filmed, but to blatantly see a camera in front of you and still do something totally uncalled for and against the laws you're supposed to be upholding? C'mon.
Gotta also love the irony of Bob Kerrey saying that he refused to put up with a long term takeover like the last one because of the publicity it generated, yet this one that he decided to solve immediately is getting so much more attention. Good move Bob, I think you might have actually pissed off your entire student body, not just the anarchist pussies who don't know what they're doing.
maybe if that kid was on a bike people would be on his side
This is when its fun being a cop.
Why do people fight with the police? You are guarenteed to lose. That kid on the ground is one of the best things I have ever seen.
looks like the NYPD can do whatever the F@CK they want huh?
To idiots? Yes.
The above video is now included on the City Room item that was linked to here earlier, along with an NYPD response:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/students-occupy-new-school-building-again/
Or maybe it was a different City Room post I saw earlier that had the "no pepper spray was used" statement but didn't have the video.
Lock the student protesters up. They are all commies.
if the cops handled it better it would make the students look more like douchebags. the fact that they went on a power trip and used much more force than was called for makes THEM look like the douchebags. the NYPD needs a PR rep. what happened to "courtesy, professionalism, respect"??? nowadays we're trained to fear the police.
i found the kid screaming "Good Friday!!" five thousand times kind of amusing. because i'm sure he was fasting today and eagerly anticipating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. as if the cops should take a break and not arrest people on Good Friday.
Christianity fail.
Yeah because storming a building and assaulting a security guard on Good Friday is completely acceptable.
whoa whoa i definitely was not siding with the kid here. either way, he was a fool.
PTG...its called 'resisting arrest'. Look it up.
the cops were at the side door preventing an orderly exit and arrest. instead they pile on behind the door and as the students push out, they spray their OC spray.
and repeat.
so how can the students unoccupy the building when the cops are preventing them to do so.
this is like the RNC round up and cattle cage techniques.
"the cops were at the side door preventing an orderly exit and arrest."
It would have been an "orderly exit and arrest" if the cops were telling them to exit that way. Since the cops were trying to arrest them inside and they were trying to slip out, it was simply a thwarted attempt to get away.
You're the Police, you always have the upper hand.
let loose the door and arrest them.
seeing a half dozen cops push back a door is childish almost. what is this a playground?
did they even have a plan?
Now why can't cops act this why when dealing with criminals that actually matter?
THIS
I'm sorry but there is no reason at all for a cop to just come at someone and then have him arrested just for yelling.
There goes more of our taxes wasted after the dust settles and someone ends up suing the NYPD.
Well, glad he got this video. That cop that knocked down the guy who was screaming "how dare you" was indeed abusing his power and then like 10 cops threw themselves all over him. Geez. The way he was screaming was also setting up his city lawsuit for like 10 million dollars.
I will make it VERY simple for all you morons. If a police officer tells you to back up, and you dont, you have now committed a crime. You can not interfere with the police, it is an A misdemeanor. Have fun in Rikers douchebag. You will be screaming OW for a different reason.
205.30 Resisting arrest.
A person is guilty of resisting arrest when he intentionally prevents
or attempts to prevent a police officer or peace officer from effecting
an authorized arrest of himself or another person.
Resisting arrest is a class A misdemeanor.
key words... "authorized arrest"
I don't see basis for a resisting charge there until possibly after he was down and they were trying to cuff him. At that point if you so much as flail your arms, you're resisting and can be charged. Note the cops yelling "stop resisting!" Standard procedure, always make sure witnesses hear that.
The initial charge, though, will either be disorderly conduct or obstructing governmental administration.
someone's not have a having a very Good Friday.
That cop who knocked down a kid had a weapon in his hand.
Watch the vid carefully starting at 0:59. The cop puts a weapon in his hand and strikes the kid.
He doesn't have anything in the hand he pushes the kid with. He's fiddling with the straps on his helmet before that, then with his helmet in his left hand he pushes the kids head with his right.
Hardly a beating, either, for that matter. He didn't even really push him down, it looked like the guy either fell because he was surprised or because he wanted to make a big scene over it by laying on the ground screaming.
wow.
cowardly college students v. nypd brutality?
where's the news??
um..no he didn't. kids just can't take a beating like they used to... if you call this a beating.
i hate every single person in this video...
...except that girl at the end who appears to just be walking through and has had enough of everyone.
Cops who use excessive force are a disgrace to the uniform. They lack personal discipline and screw things up for upstanding officers.
Violent punks like the tall douche that slapped the yappy kid and the other tall douche who went pepper spray happy should be put under lock & key. Their kind are drawn to the power of law enforcement for all the WRONG reasons and should be put under their own lock & key --especially, when they trample on the right of free speech.
So the yappy kid cried out. Big deal.
I'd like to see how some of these snark-ass commenters would take getting jumped by 5 angry cops..
These privileged brats are really getting annoying...
You mean Bob Kerrey and the New School Administration, right?
No, I think he's talking about sanctimonious assholes like these cliche student protesters and those who create usernames like "The Facts" as if simply creating such a handle means whatever they say is some sort of irrefutable truth instead of just another opinion. That would be you, btw.
I asked a question, not stated an opinion.
And a handle like Bernard-Madoff Goetz implies what?
At least the students got balls, more than a snotty anonymous flat-assed blogger hiding behind a little computer screen who would never have the guts to confront someone face-to-face, and who gets his little panties in a knot over someone else's pseudonym.
At least the students, Madoff and Goetz had balls. What have you got: a Dell or an Apple?
Yeah, calling someone a Serf simply for questioning the validity of the protesters' claims is just innocuous Q&A.
Next time just drill a hole in your parents' yacht off Saint-Tropez if you want to make a "statement." Also, good luck to your buddies in selecting a different school to find something wrong with. I hear Columbia is good place to stage a candlelit vigil and hunger strike over the lack of sufficient ethnic studies courses.
FOOLS!!! All OF THEM!!!
Say what you will about the kids, but this is really unacceptable behavior on the part of the NYPD. It's upsetting to know that the police spokesman would have gotten away with the lie if not for the video cameras.
When the cops lie like this it undermines their authority and integrity, and obviously makes people distrust them. This kind of thing puts the good cops more at risk and worse, jeopardizes the foundations of our civil society. I look at this video and immediately think of China, Russia, Pakistan, etc...
Not good.
Maybe you should visit China, Russia and Pakistan and see how they deal with these situations, then compare them with the NYPD.
Big difference!
Yes, there's a big difference, at least for now. But it's a slippery slope.
Maybe you should move there if you enjoy authoritarian regimes. I prefer living in our country precisely because of the freedoms we enjoy. When those freedoms are compromised by a few bad apples I am glad I have the right to speak out against it.
You cannot possibly defend a situation in which the police are clearly attacking and arresting people without just cause and then lying about it. Such behavior is unconstitutional and it should give you cause for concern.
New York's Panicky Delinquents
That videos really shows an absolute amateur and unsupervised response on the part of the NYPD. There's nothing professional about it. Or anything to be proud of. That video is going to cost them probably around $500,000 when everything is said and done.
This routine of pussies and morons provoking cops so that they can film/complain about them is extremely tired, although Gothamist cna't get enough of it, obviously.
Is there any coherent statement about what this "occupation" is or was intended to achieve? It's telling that there is no mention or consideration of that in this post...assuming there is or was a point beyond the usual incoherent cry for attention and struggle for importance.
Attention students: if you don't like something about your school, you can attend a different school. Good luck adjusting to adulthood.
Not all New School students support this dumb action. Most of the kids are from Lang(again). Not all the students in the other schools are retarded and can be found in the lab or classrooms, totally oblivious to what went on since they have too much work as opposed to too much time on their hands.. I mean let's have a sit in in a building that bothers everyone else other than Bob Kerry.. Although, I agree that the NYPD officer who whacked the guy who was yelling out of frustation is in the wrong.
"HOW DARE YOU?!"
Seriously, who the fnck do these dumbass kids think they are?
I was passing by during the occupation. First I thought it was a bomb or something because there SOOOO many cops there. What were they there to protect? Were these kids such a dire threat? Give me a break. Total over-reaction. It was a simple civil disobedience action. The police force is criminal.
The fact that many people seem to consider the behavior of the police on this video to be acceptable is really troubling. We are paying these people to protect us, not beat up college kids. I don't care how misguided or immature you consider the protesters to be, this is not how our police should be behaving. Period.
There's a reason why Brits call cops "The Filth".
The prison industry is hungry, 2 million people are behind bars now. Thats 1 out of every 100 people. And now that the Corrections Corporation of America-CCA is the largest maker of private prisons, there's a good chance you or a family member will be thrown in for the stupidest of infractions. The government is becoming a hungry monster, sucking all your tax dollars away without a care in the world. Spending it on shyt like this. This is only the beginning people, pretty soon you wont be able to pass a 20 dollar bill without it being taxed. Your silence on where your taxes go kills innocent people in iraq and pays for programs that suck the life out of your fellow humans- this country will continue to barely function under the guise of Department Of Corrections. They don't correct anything they just make a buck off you. Welcome to the new era of Prison Profiteering.
PIGS
well done nypd, i hope all you stupid yuppies feel the hard end of a police baton.
the poor misguided youth!! they commit criminal acts, and get treated as criminals by the nypd, get over it. your reactions are comical. try studying law then come reply to these stories.
nypd brutality?!?! walk a day in a cops shoes, your opinion WILL change. police are the most under appreciated and second guessed group on the planet, and its complete bullshit.
i hope the day you critics need the cops, they take their sweet time and stop at every red traffic light, then circle the block to find a legal parking spot, cause god knows if they dont, some asshole critic will be there with a camera to cry police corruption.
yeah!
~wouldn't it be great if cops cracked the bones of ALL protesters? *sigh* if only more of these kinda cops woulda been on hand during the civil rights movement & Viet Nam war protests. They woulda shown those punk kids what a REAL U-S-A patriot is all about. love it or leave it (*hopefully, in a bodybag, right?). That guy who taped the Rodney King beating should been sent to Guantanmo for makin' da police look bad! Poor cops. :(
j/k
It is interesting to note that the use of video during protests can be helpful both to police and arrestee. Obviously the police are aware they cannot stop people from video-taping public events. The guy yelling on the street is probably deserving of a disorderly violation; the woman walking at the end, if arrested, would probably have a case against a violation. In any event, the crying foul on the street is ridicules. If you tango with police, be prepared to get arrested. Use the time for 1st amendment purposes, not to cry to mama.
What a bunch of shits. Did they have to scream like girls when getting arrested? It's embarrassing to watch.
Crying like the boys the are?
a big thank you and nice work to the freelance journalist Brandon Jourdan who took this tape. i was in the area and the police had the whole area closed off to vehicle and ped traffic. From university and 13th you couldn't walk west. Keep the witnesses away keep the keep the cameras away.
nice to see what really happend get out, hope more video shows up. NYPD hitting people for yelling at them? i dont think a helmey is an approved device to stop a side walk yeller. City of NY really should stop indemnifying these cops that clearly violate nypd policy.
let them get personally sued too, just like any of us would if we assaulted someone with a weapon.
wonder what the helmet smacking cop has in his sworn report.
agreed, the police can't hit kids for yelling. the police should be arrested for assault.
What a joke. Kids today are the whiniest, spoiled wussies ever. I loved the emo boy who kept accosting the cops "Shame on you!" and then like a true starving artist learning his craft at the NY Film Academy began to wither and cry violently as if he were being attacked (he wasn't). I felt embarrassed just watching them make complete fools of themselves.
I love the kid acting tough, yelling at the cops and then cries like a baby while getting handcuffed. Idiot.
You know.... I think some of these students are whiney little brats but I have to say that it looks like the NYPD is up to it's old tricks again. Did it really take 4 cops to arrest the one guy (who did not seem to be putting up much of a fight) who's only crime seems to be yelling "shame on you" over and over? I wonder how many of them it takes to write a double parking ticket.