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F train riders, the MTA is thinking about you, even though the agency might jack fares up and reduce service in other ways. NY1 reports, "New York City Transit ran a test overnight of an F train with an 11th car attached. The train normally has just 10 cars." Why? Because the F line is really crowded and NYCT officials want to see if "the longer train will be accommodated by signals and stations. If trains cannot be safely run closer together, capacity can be increased with the extra car." Interesting! Of course, this depends on station design and other issues—oh, yeah, and NYCT admits, "We obviously neither have the capital nor operating funding to implement anything like this in the foreseeable future"— but another line that needs more train capacity is the Lexington Avenue line.
MTA Tests Extra Train Car For F Line
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So, there's no plan to implement this?
Thanks for the c-tease, MTA. At least you recognize that the F train is a complete mess.
Feeling the sudden urge to go to YouTube and watch Spinal Tap clips.
I doubt it will make any difference. The MTA needs to run more F trains during peak hours. Especially during the evening commute. The wait at Jay Street can be over 10 minutes on some days. Either that or have the G train divereted to Jay Street and run local down the F line. (not sure if tracks will allow that but it would alleve crowding).
I've learned to never get on the chock-a-block F train that pulls into Jay Street after a long wait, because inevitably that train will be diverted to "Express," and there's usually a near empty F train right behind the crowded one.
But I have no idea why the F line is always so screwed up.
Rock, the key is stay in the middle of the platform. Most riders get on the first and last cars so they can be at their exits, (Bergen / Warren, Carrol / 2nd, 7th / 8th). That right there is about 50% of the riders on the F train.
While an extra train car may alleviate crowding on the first and last train cars, the F line needs more trains during the morning and evening rush. Also, they need to run them more consistently. There are so many times where you'll wait 15 minutes for a crowded F train to pull up only for an empty one to come 1 minute later. Agh!!!
I consider the feast-or-famine nature of the F to be a feature, not a bug. Going home I just bide my time and get a seat on the inevitable "empty F" instead of jamming into a full train with the suckers. This is compared to the B which runs like clockwork and therefore *always* moderately crowded.
All along the MTA has stated that when the F train comes in from Queens to Roosevelt Island during the morning rush hour period that the trains have capacity to service the island. This shows that even theyt know that is incorrect.
My question is if they were to implement this I am assuming they would have to allow riders to walk between the end two cars so where platforms cannot accomodate 11 cars that passengers can get out (and in).
http://rooseveltisland360.blogspot.com/search/label/F%20Train
Has anyone noticed the excessive delays this week on the F (more so than usual)? Every morning I wait for 10-15 minutes, then when the train comes I can't even get on it's so packed. When the next train comes, there is a little more room, but then it just crawls to each stop. It is literally taking me an extra half hour to get to work.
Yes.
"Unused express tracks? What unused express tracks?" says the MTA.
I though most subway platform only are good for 10 cars long?
or how about running the V train to Brooklyn as a local and making the F express.
The main problem with the F is sharing tracks with the V and then G in Brooklyn. At least twice a week you see two V's come before an F.
I can't tell you how many times a full F is delayed after Jay St because a empty G is moving in front of it.
and this is all because the MTA still uses a signal system from the 1900's. Yet our Gov, wants to run an empty train to Niagara Falls. no wonder this country is in such a mess.
While it would be nice to extend the V as a local and route the F to express in Brooklyn (or maybe vice versa), the V and F would still fight for one track between 2nd Ave in Manhattan and Jay St in Brooklyn, and the G and whatever line stays local would still fight between Jay and Bergen, unless you terminate the G at Hoyt-Schermerhorn...which actually isn't a horrible idea.
The Rutgers Street Tunnel was designed to handle both the F and V, just as the Cranberry Street Tunnel handles both the A and C.
The G was designed to terminate at Church Avenue.
The entire 6th Ave./Culver Line from Second Ave. to Church Ave. is entirely underutilized.
Can't they use the cars from the discontinued lines (rest in peace, W train) as extensions?
Good idea but it would cost the MTA an estimated 45 Million Dollars to change the yellow W circles to orange F circles.
Ha!