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Not Everyone "Stands Up for People with Disabilities"

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Passive-aggressive blogging is the new passive-aggressive note-leaving. The crutches-bound blogger behind the People Who Sit In The Disability Seats When I’m Standing On My Crutches website documents able-bodied straphangers who won't give up their seat for the disabled. He says he doesn't take pictures of anyone "if there's an open seat within sight. I also don't take pictures of elderly people, visibly pregnant women, or anyone who looks like they might have a disability." But even those getting some subway shut-eye could land on the site. Do you get up from your seat if someone clearly needs it? Seems not everyone pays attention to the “Stand Up for People with Disabilities” campaign.

We asked NYC Transit's Paul Fleuranges for some tips on what to do if you need a seat but your fellow commuters won't get up. He told us, simply, "Best advice to this particular rider and others is to politely ask that the occupant of the priority seating allow him to sit. I stress politely." He also mentioned there will be a new "stand up" campaign unveiled in the near future. And perhaps someone can get to work on www.PeopleWhoTakeUpTooMuchRoomOnNYCSidewalks.com?

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  • RN Amused

    I have no problem forfeiting my seat on the train or bus . The problem comes into play when it's always the same person doing it . Don't get me wrong, At times I don't mind but when you've had a hard day on the job . The last thing you want to do is move for someone else regardless of there situation . Secondly, Some persons with disabilities needs to take advantage of the services derived specifically for them !

  • electrablue

    I'm glad this guy is doing this. OK for all you a#*#s above who insensitively said "why don't you ask for a seat?" here's a story for you uncompassionatoids. I had colon cancer (for the second time). After my first chemo treatment in the city I kind of felt ok and decided to take the L Train back to Brooklyn. Some people cannot afford to take taxis and car services all the time. That's right! And some people don't have friends or family that can always come get them. Trying to pretend (and live in the world of denial) that you are normal like other humans and not being consumed by a deadly disease is one of the ways that helped me get through cancer. ANYWAY I got on the train at 1st Avenue. To get the colon cancer chemo I had a chemo bottle attached to me for 2 days every 2 weeks. I had a big white bandage on my chest with a PLASTIC TUBE going into my skin to the chemoport. You could actually see the tube going into my chest. Obviously there was some health problem going on with me. So I get on the train and all of the seats are taken and I'm standing there and not one of the 6 guys sitting in front of me got up. So I DID ask. "Can one of you guys give me a seat? I just got chemotherapy." NO ONE GOT UP!!! Unf'ngbelievable. I really could not believe it. Oh I am a thin (due to cancer ha ha) female also who probably looked kind of frail at the time. I asked again. The only hipsterish-looking younger guy jumped up and gave me his seat. (Take that hipster haters.) The other guys looked more "normal" and were older but none older than mid-40's.



    All the people above who obnoxiously said you should ask for a seat are being insensitive dicks (of whatever gender). You people are probably feeling guilty because you never would think of giving anyone a seat. I now am going to need a liver transplant due to bile duct disease and get really tired sometimes. You could never tell ANYTHING is wrong with me. My friends keep telling me that I look really good (OK they say I look hot). I do not take the train during rush hour and try not to get on crowded trains. My oncologist wants to leave my chemoport (which you can see through my skin because I am so thin) in for another year as she is not sure my cancer won't come back. That's her problem. I just think she isn't being positive enough. I am showing selfishoids my chemoport if I ever need to sit down (due to feeling sick) and no one gets up when I ask. A little bit of my faith in humanity died permanently that day. I'm glad I'm not like those people who wouldn't give me their seat.

    BTW any haters want to hate on my comment FU. Or better yet let's meet in a dark alley sometime.

  • valeriob

    I do not want to meet you in any alley.



    Please stfu.



    Thanks.

  • sexisicilian

    wow human nature at its finest ... such anger. I just want to know why it is always most "WOMEN" who always seem to get up for whatever reason and NOT so much the "MEN"

  • infotron1000

    By putting the words "WOMEN" and "MEN" in quotes, you are implying that you think the majority of people you see on the subway are trannies. As a MAN, I resent this implication, and I am fairly certain that most trannies take the Water Taxi.

  • dbc

    I had foot surgery 19 months ago; first I had crutches, then a cane -- a surprising number of people offered me seats on subways and buses. I tried to take cabs as much as possible, but it got expensive very quickly (I was working full time and going to grad school at night), plus the taxi strike happened about a week after my surgery, forcing me to take the subway. I got a quick lesson on how hard it is to get around if you're disabled. I only had one really bad experience during the whole ordeal; while sitting in a priority seat on the bus, an old 5th-Avenue-Lady-Who-Lunches (who presumably didn't see my cane) lectured me about stealing seats from the elderly. I was a bitch in return: I pointed down to my walking cast and told her if she didn't shut up I'd beat her with my cane.

  • Lrigtab

    Your story made my day! By the way, that website is HILARIOUS!

  • the_stu

    I'm walking with a cane temporarily because I wound up having infective endocarditis and open heart surgery and am recovering. People aren't always willing to give up their seats even when you ask for it, and it does really suck to have to ask everytime you get on a subway, especially when people are going to be dicks about it. Yeah, I know, you didn't ask me to get sick and have surgery, so it's not your problem. Still.



    To those who say "get a cab," why should I have to take a cab to and from work every morning? Seriously? You want me to spend $50 a day on cabs just so I can work, when common courtesy says someone could offer me a seat? You're going to mock someone who's injured and just trying to get through the day as best they can because you think they're lazy?

  • henricus

    I'm sorry to hear that man. Reinforces my theory that NYC is the most selfish city on earth. Blah.

  • tmz is evil

    I totally agree that New York City is the most selfish city on earth. I mean, look at how they behaved on 9/11. NY'ers couldn't have been more selfish that day.



  • tsol

    But sll of the people he photographed are seriously disabled... by MTA union standards! They're sitting because playing golf on weekday mornings can really wear a 48-year old retiree out.

  • Rfive

    You want a seat? Take a cab. Then shut the f*ck up.

  • tmz is evil

    Where was his blog before he was on crutches?



    Oh, that's right-- like a self absorbed celeb who suddenly cares enough to start a public crusade against a severe illness once he or she gets stricken with it, this guy couldn't have cared less about this issue before he was incapacitated. So he didn't have one.



    P.S. Can't wait until someone finally catches the loser in the act of surreptitiously taking pictures of him. Then he can start a new blog--



    www.RecoveringFromaGoodOldFash....



    Or how about this?



    www.LivingInACardboardBoxAfter...

  • Kojak

    Elderly people aren't disabled either. They are just old.

  • Kaz

    May you never grow old.

  • Kojak

    Since I don't consider those who are fat/obese disabled, I regularly refuse to give up my seat to fatties.

  • NannyState

    I've never seen a person on crutches who couldn't hail a cab.

  • JacqueMehoff

    is this douche a transplant or something.

    the sign says priority seating. like those wheelchair seats on a bus. a WC pass comes in, you relinquish your seat. and why isn't he showing the pass who are denied those seats due to being elderly/disabled etc.

    I too may look able bodied but I have RA and sometimes it acts up. but I still give up my seat if I see a person who needs it. I can rest when I'm dead.

  • JanetG

    Still remember the time a guy offered me his seat, obviously because he wanted to be friends, with a guy clutching to the vertical bar with one hand, holding both crutches in the other hand. I "politely" pointed out that I didn't need a seat but "he" (crutch holder) did.

    Obviously the blogger doesn't want to provoke the healthy sitters by asking, even "politely". He shouldn't have to. But photographing a conscious person could be just as provocative.

  • jambi

    Someone mentioned on another blog how in the third picture you can see in the reflection he's sitting down. So he took the picture even though he had a seat.



    And what about the picture of the guy with two empty seats on each side of him? Does he really deserve to be on the website?

  • Jen S

    Holy bananas, you're right - he's totally sitting and judging!

  • hotstepper
  • Brainwash
  • leftylib

    Damn Right @ Whitecastle....Looks like the MTA gets a big fat F along with its self absorbed riders!

  • whitecastlerock

    Why doesn't this fucking dickhead blog about the MTA's inability to provide proper entrance to the subways for disabled patrons? Elevators and escalators are broken. Exits are padlocked shut. Staircases are in ruins. How the hell do people on crutches get through those fucking cheese grater subway entrances?

  • Atomische

    The blog's header shows someone who might have crutches but doesn't necessarily look disabled. It would be pretty douchie to start a whole crusade like this if you're just suffering from bunion removal and cranky about not getting a seat.



    That said, if you're sitting in one of the special seats, and someone looks like they're having trouble standing on the moving train, just give up the freaking seat already! You don't really need to have an internal dialog about there disability status. Just have some manners!

  • Spirit of 76

    That said, if you're sitting in one of the special seats, and someone looks like they're having trouble standing on the moving train, just give up the freaking seat already! You don't really need to have an internal dialog about there disability status. Just have some manners!



    Manners are a thing of the past, especially for many people who consider it a badge of honor to show you're a "real" NYer by not giving a damn about anybody else.

  • Geoelh

    What a bonehead. What's the difference between a so-called disabled seat and all the other seats? A sticker? What makes the people sitting in disabled seats any worse than all the other ass-dwellers who wouldn't get out of your way?

  • ides_of_march

    Isn't illiteracy considered a handicap?

  • Wza

    What a puss.

  • Outter Burrougher

    as some others have said: you really can't tell by looking at someone. just because someone doesn't have an obvious disability doesn't mean that you have a greater right to be sitting

  • birdmechanical

    C'mon guys. Everyone hates the people that take up two seats for no reason on a full train.



    Now when people actually need a seat and the seat is designated for elderly, pregnant, disabled people.. the least someone can do is not be rude or lazy and move. I mean, I can't imagine that having someone hold crutches, stand on one leg, while on a moving train isn't the easiest thing to do.



    The least you can do is follow the directions on a dumb sign, and not be a jerk. If it takes public shame to make people do it, I'm all for it.



    That or start issuing more tickets, which do you want?

  • Asphyxia8

    Does nobody here suffer from debilitating back pain, or know anybody who does? A close friend of mine suffers from it, yet you'd probably never know it by just looking at him, especially since he's in his early 30s. Should he really have to explain to anyone -- let alone strangers on the subway -- about his medical history, which includes back surgery and years of physical therapy, in order to convince them that he truly deserves a seat? I sure hope not.

  • birdmechanical

    I'm fairly certain he already mentioned that on his blog.

  • Toby von Meistersinger

    There are quite often disabled people who look rather able bodied.

  • Nyctini11

    True, but there are, more often then not, able bodied people sitting & ignoring those who really could use a seat. When you see a pregnant woman standing there in clear discomfort, carry around an extra 50lbs around her lower back, why the hell can you not get up and let that poor woman sit, or at least offer, it's common sense & courtesy, ya know.

    I get pissed off almost daily looking around at people who clearly should be offered a seat and no one does a damn thing. Unfortunately most of the people taking up these seats are the same people who would not hesitate to argue or cause harm if you called them out on it.

  • nomnomnom

    And I'm not sure crutches are a disability.

  • the_stu

    Are you serious?



    And if you are serious, are you retarded?

  • valeriob

    lulz

  • Gothamist_Cynic

    If I was on crutches I would rather stand. Do you know how painful and a pain in the ass it is to sit down and get back up especially on a train?

  • Guest

    Agreed. Last week, I offered some guy on crutches my seat, but he said it was too much of a pain in the ass to get up and down.

  • Rocknrope

    This is New York. If you're not going to ask, we're not going to offer. Go hobble into the corner and read your New Yorker.

  • henricus

    While I don't really think his blog is thought all the way through, you should always offer someone a seat if they are pregnant, on crutches, in a cast, limping, etc. I don't care if you are a tough 'New Yorker' or not, it's polite and you aren't above it.

  • nicemarmot

    I don't really feel like you can tell if someone is disabled just by looking at them. I sat in a disabled seat a few weeks ago when I had a huge bruise on the bottom of my foot that made it really painful to stand. Would this guy have taken my picture and posted it online saying what an awful human being I am?

  • djwerdna

    We need better signs like the ones in Tokyo:





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  • Jen S

    It's not that hard to ask for a seat.

  • ganghiscon

    There's an open seat in a bunch of his pictures. And he never bothers to ask anyone to move. Someone should follow this guy around, take pictures of him and make a blog about what a douche he is.

  • One day, I will create www.PeopleWhoTakeUpTooMuchRoom... . And then I'll create www.DriversWhoRunRedLightsWhen... .

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