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A 14-year-old honor student tells the NY Post her direct pleas to Schools Chancellor Joel Klein about her safety at her school were ignored—until she was injured. Kimselle Castanos, whose family also repeatedly asked for a transfer, gave Klein a letter detailing how she was "terrorized by a band of teens at the Foreign Language Academy of Global Studies," back in December. He asked her to e-mail him, which the 14-year-old did, sending a total of 25 e-mails (from 12/22: "I am scared about what they are going to do to me") but without reply. Last month, the bullies, who attend a special education school in the same building, found her in the cafeteria: "A girl yanked Kimselle's ponytail so hard she heard a crack in her neck." Kimselle was transferred to the Bronx Leadership Academy; the Department of Education says her family never provided documentation of the threat and that it had been in contact with them. But, Kimselle, who wears a neck brace and whose parents plan to sue, wonders, "I don't understand why it took me getting hurt."
Bullied Student Finally Gets School Transfer After Injury
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"the bullies, who attend a special education school in the same building"
Why don't they put these "special education schools" on Rikers Island? The students will be closer to their future home that way.
Excellent idea.
Why let the born losers drag the promising students down with them? Some bizarro interpretation of 'equality' no doubt.
"I don't understand why it took me getting hurt."
Because our schools are run by former special ed students.
Any description of these bullies?
Idiotic. This is a failed notion of public education that by putting these delinquent (stop calling them special schools) schools in with the honors students the honors students will rub off on them. In this case some folk wisdom trumps that education degree: one bad apple... In Raleigh for instance there is a magnet school in the downtown where gifted kids are sent to be among inner city youth. A study was done and lo and behold the bussed students had a higher incident of drug usage and delinquent behavior after going to the school. Not to mention I have many friends who report a similar style of bullying.
Just so you know I'm not saying that all inner city public schools are bad.
Read the article. They don't attend the same classes. The two schools share the same building -- not an unusual arrangement in NYC where small schools and large buildings are often the case.
Read the article previously. Did I say anything about them being in the same classes? Read my post again. What I'm saying is that educators think that by simply housing these schools in the same building that the smart kids will rub off on the delinquents. It's not simply an issue of limited space, but part of a way of thinking common in many educators. I've spoken to many educators about this very topic and you will normally find these mini-detention centers housed within above average schools.
Sorry, I find it hard to believe this topic comes up in casual conversation with "many educators." Never mind "many friends" who experience such bullying.
Spirit, sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm actually a teacher. So let me definitively tell you that it is a topic among educators. It's right up there with the union problem in NYC public schools.
And as for many friends: I'm from NC and I know several people who went to Broughton and experienced this sort of bullying from the street toughs there. These were kids in the magnet program there.
I'm not sure I can convince you beyond that that there are many people concerned with this topic in the field and close to me. But you obviously know me better than I know myself, so...
Frankly, looking at all your responses on your you seem to be a bit of a know-it-all and more than a little combative. Maybe you should calm down a little and accept that some of the people who post regularly on here are actually pretty intelligent and lucid in their opinions.
Frankly, looking at your posts, you seem to be almost as much of a Mr. Negativity as Snoopy (who is involuntarily unemployed, around 60, and "makes more in a week than most of us in a month," if one believes that millionaires have nothing better to do than comment 30 times a day on Gothamist). Most of what you write is calling something dumb, incomprehensible, a bad idea, etc. Complaints, but no solutions.
This is nothing more than yet another example of modern bureaucracy, which is nothing more than a bunch of pencil-pushers sitting around every day collecting their paychecks and covering their asses by demanding paperwork for everything.
public school = jail. Never send your kids to public school. You know those kids octomommy is going to neglect? Yeah, they are going to public school and gonna fuck up your kids.
Yeah, I guess all those Nobel Prize winners from Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech would have been so much better off going to private schools instead.
I attended Townsend Harris High School, which is also a public school, and I would like to say that THHS is better than most private high schools.
In reality if she indeed emailed the idiots as she said she did the records would be obtainable from the computer she used. That's if she, and I am sure she did, kept the emails on her computer.
Tell those idiots downtown to realize that this is the age of computers and that very few people write hard copy letters anymore.
I can just hear the talk around the water cooler down there. "Don't I know you from somewhere?" "Well sister I remember you when I was seeing my parole officer. You were coming out and I was coming in. Was up?" "That dude over there he looks familiar too." "He's be getting out of Rikers just when my bro was visiting his baby's mama."
Wrong yet again. Emails on her system would be inadmissible because they can be faked. The only copies that mean anything would have to be recovered from either her ISP's SMTP server or DOE's POP or IMAP server, because she wouldn't be able to change the data on those.
"The only copies that mean anything would have to be recovered from either her ISP's SMTP server or DOE's POP or IMAP server, because she wouldn't be able to change the data on those."
Precisely you fool!
How else would she be able to keep a record? By printing them out perhaps but to go back and try to recover individual records it helps to track it first in your own mind and for others to see before the lawyer starts going back to the servers to find the records.
Fool!
Sooo, Snoopy, O computer genius who swore that iPhones don't use standard SIM cards, I guess you're saying backed up server records can't be sorted by the IP or email address of the source or destination?
I just love the way you instantly resort to schoolyard insults whenever you can't win an argument. Has anyone offered you a job yet thanks to your incredible computer expertise? Any response from Google or Microsoft? Still waiting for your next Social Security check so you can pay your AARP dues?
You should actually bcc yourself on all e-mails, so then it goes through your outgoing and incoming server, and the header information would have all of the timestamp information. Of course, this could be faked as well, but it's more powerful in proving that it was sent, and then your ISP could be contacted to verify your records.
Of course, the receiver could claim they never received it, but if you have your timestamped header info and your ISP records, it's going to be difficult for an institution like the DOE to claim they never received 25 e-mails.
I don't see why you think emails would be inadmissable. I work in a large law firm and, these days, 90% of the documents produced and used in lawsuits are emails.
I'm sure they are, but I highly doubt they were taken from the sender's computer. As I wrote, you'd need the kind of authentication that full headers from the mail servers could give, just like keeping a photocopy of a paper letter means nothing. You need to send mail registered or certified with return receipt for any kind of standing in a court of law.
Why do responses to specific posts show up in random places under other posts?????
They initially show up in random places but then align themselves if you reload after a minute or two.
As to e-mails being admissable, I think most people agree that they are, but the question is how to prove their veracity. I could type up an e-mail and claim I sent it, but you need the outgoing/incoming server stamps to prove they were sent. Publicly traded companies, I believe, are required by law to retain copies of all of this information, but your average ISP may not bother to do anything regarding saving your or my e-mails; in fact, most people probably don't want them to. Plus, the DOE is so incompetent, they probably never back up their servers and likely purge them regularly to save money.
Eventually the response will show up under the post you want it to. When you first click SUBMIT it shows up wonky.
Depends on the court, but basically if there is no reason to believe the email is fake, it is accepted (this determination is ultimately left to each individual juror, of course).
(Note that all of the authenticity issues brought up in this thread can be applied to hard copy letters, yet there is no widespread issue regarding the authenticity of written documents. Hmm...)
Politburo - good point regarding regularly mailed letters. Not sure how often they require the postmarked envelope. Of course, signatures are easier to verify physically than electronically.
Regardless, for most of us (that means me), we're not lawyers with knowledge in this area, so it's all speculation, but I think we all seem to agree that it's good if she kept the e-mails.
IANAL. Just fluent in legalese and google.
you're right, annnnyoonneee can get into those schools u mentioned
I'll go along with henricus, as noted in the comment above. What you need to do is take two laxatives and call your mother in the morning.
If you swap a regular sym into a iphone you will not get the features of an iphone. It needs to be synched with AT&T to work like an iphone. But you knew that already. didn't you?
Yeah, go ahead and keep writing about "sym" cards and other things you don't understand. Keep digging yourself a deeper hole. Anybody who knows anything knows AT&T does not blacklist IMEI numbers. But this is obviously all over your head.
Oh so your a hacker now? I always thought you were a little too much up with how to get around living legally.
It seems like a lot of the others that responded to the email discussion also seem to see you for what you are. An out of work former office boy at some computer warehouse.