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Fine, President Obama may have delivered his first speech to a joint session of Congress, but let's really get down to brass tacks: Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal did sound eerily like Kenneth the Page during the GOP response. That crossover audience of 30 Rock fans and presidential address watchers were probably expecting Jindal to break into "Top That." The other dominant non-policy observation was that Michelle Obama was going sleeveless again (this time, in Narciso Rodriguez), with the Times' The Caucus blog noting, "Mrs. Obama’s super-sculpted arms are the result of years of effort." However, we expect this bit of news to blow everything out of the water: The Obamas are looking for a rescue Portuguese water dog to join them in the White House this April.
Post-Obama Address Topics: Jindal as Kenneth, Michelle's Arms
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I've go to hand it to the Republican. Their leadership has always been white shoe, white guys. Thus time they've got themselves 1 Indian Governor, 1 African American National Chairman and 1 Jewish congressman. That's right folks, one of each, only one.
First line, second word should read "got" and Republican should be plural. Second line second word should be "this". Sorry, other than that, it was perfect.
And the democrats have one Klansman senator.
Anyway, you obviously haven't heard of Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Mel Martinez, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder and other non-white conservative republicans.
oh ides, those people don't count though. minorities are only allowed to be democrats. white people can be whatever they like though.
and to follow up your klansman comment, how about the 1 black senator democrats have? gee, democrats really are so much more enlightened than republicans. whenever that Illinois senate position is vacated they really try to make sure that another black senator fills the position. good for them.
Of these only one is an elected politician. That one guy is a state senator - an immigrant Cuban who was bought with Republican support for pre-Castro reparations and, by the way, was one of the shining stars forcing comedic farce into the Terri Shaivo family tragedy.
Ha! I swear, Jindal must be a 5th columnist or something. That speech could not have been worse for national Republican credibility than if it had been secretly replaced with Folger's Crystals. What that speech told us was that they're calling the next 4 years a wash. They wasted a national speaking opportunity to shore up their regional base in the hopes of living to fight another day.
Regardless, a star was NOT born with that rebuttal last night. Katrina? Really? *sigh*
I agree, Jindal's speech was less than Churchillian in its delivery although the substance was there. Then again, it was in response to a speech that that utterly vacuous but superbly delivered. Nice yin yang effect.
I can think of at least one other socialilist leader from history who was a charismatic and skilled orator who knew how to work the crowd and push their emotional buttons like Chopin hitting the piano keys. Unfortunately, it didn't make his policies and goals any more legitmate.
Yes, I've heard of them but they are 2nd & 3rd tier players. The 3 that I mentioned are front row guys.
Jindal is a decent, educated man and a good governor. I prefer to judge him on the content of his character rather than the color of his skin. Too bad that's all you can see is skin color.
If he is a "decent, educated man" how is it that he has performed exorcisms? How is it that he recently signed a law that will allow creationism to be taught in Louisiana schools? These are not actions that a decent, educated man would take.
Wrong! It's not the color, it's the deception.
I think he sounded more like Apu
when he plum forgotten that he's an american citizen.
is that wrong?
I seriously do not understand why this response has been "universally smashed."
It sounds fine to me. The guy is from FUCKING Louisiana.
When Jimmy Carter spoke did liberals also make implied "hick and stupid" comments? No, but some Republicans did and they probably complained and said listen to the message. Hypocrites.
The message was also tactful and somewhat neutral.
"I seriously do not understand why this response has been "universally smashed."
Because liberals are hypocrites. These "opposing party" responses are never good. It's just Democrats never think their crap stinks.
While some of the criticism is a knee-jerk reaction to hearing a brown guy with a southern accent, I think the main substantive criticism of the response is that it was nothing new. Over the past month, the GOP opposed just about anything Obama proposed. Instead of using this opportunity to launch a revamped opposition platform, it basically restated everything we already know about the GOP using the same tired talking points. Some examples:
Note, I'm not saying that these arguments don't have merit. But they're still stale arguments, especially after the 'longest' presidential campaign in history.The true opposing argument to President Obama's plan of deficit spending and easy money would simply be: Do nothing.
Now, you can bring up the hypocrisy of claiming we need to do nothing right now when the GOP was getting us into wars and was a big government party over the past eight years. You can dismiss the party and its leaders, but we can't dismiss the idea---on its own merit--that maybe government can't rescue us and we're better off with out their interference.
If you're arguing that Jindal was presenting the "do-nothing" plan, then that fits in exactly with why it's being considered a poor speech. According to polls, the public has rejected that course.
Back in 2003, Bush talked about how we need to go into Iraq and the polls showed that the public supported it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_popular_opinion_on_invasion_of_Iraq
Would that mean that if someone dissented about going into Iraq it's automatically considered a poor speech?
My 2nd comment didn't undo anything I wrote in the first one... I'm not saying the speech is unpopular only because the position doesn't poll well. The public opinion is just one piece of why the speech was unpopular.
1. Unpopular party
2. Unpopular position
3. Poor delivery
4. High expectations not met (the media obviously doesn't help here)
Put it all together, and you've got a poor speech.
As this video shows, you can prove anything with polls. It is funny because it is true!
I didn't view the video. Surveys can be abused, but the big national polling firms generally don't pull that kind of shit, and if it were only one poll, you might have an argument. However, almost every major national poll shows support for the package. You can view the exact text of the questions at pollingreport.com if you have any concerns about bias through the wording of the question.
Are there really people out there who think the Republicans have anything to offer?
If so, please explain:
- how our great country under eight years of Republican rule went from a budget surplus to a huge budget deficit;
- a failed Iraq war based on fallacious and falsified information, i.e. the GOP lied to the American people;
- USA's standing and sympathy in the world plummeting from record highs immediately post-9/11 when we had a Dem prez to the current abysmal opinion that developed after 8 year of Rep rule.
Oh, let's not forget the worst financial crisis since the Depression brought on by 8 years of Reps, from the boom times when the Dems ruled in the 90s.
The Dems over decades have given us social programs that Republicans fought against that we now take for granted:
Social Security, Medicare, Minimum wage, the five-day work week, Unemployment and Disability Compensation, family and child benefit programs, ability to form unions, Civil Rights Laws, etc, etc.
The Republican Party is the party of millionaires and fools who actually believe they're millionaires.
"The Republican Party is the party of millionaires and fools who actually believe they're millionaires."
Well said.
Tell that to the uneducated people in the heart of the country whole only care about the church and think Rush Limbaugh tells just the facts.
and that, is what's wrong with Kansas.
Your country is SINKING like a rock and all you people worry about are sculpted arms and Portuguese Water Dogs.
Lay down already; YOU'RE DEAD!
The stupidest part of Jindal's speech was denouncing the bureaucrats who tried to stop private citizens from saving Katrina victims with their own boats because of insurance regulations. Since the Republicans had the White House, both houses of Congress and Brownie doing a heck of a job at the time of Katrina, this shows Jindal has brain damage, is hoping the public does or both.
This is really the best they could come up with?
Q: How can you tell a politician is lying?
A: They are moving their lips.