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Today Gillibrand began her "Get to Know You" tour of the NYC area, symmetrically mimicking a similar listening tour of upstate that Hillary embarked on when she began vying to represent the state alongside Charles Schumer. Gillibrand stopped by the Reverend Al Sharpton's weekly rally, where she answered questions about her stance on firearms and stressed her willingness to listen to pleas from anti-violence groups. While Sharpton admitted the two barely knew each other, he said, "I trust the governor, the governor trusts her. Let's get it on."
Gillibrand was stressing today that her top priority in Washington is our struggling economy. She made a name for herself this fall for bucking party lines and voting against both versions of the $700 billion financial bailout, raising the ire of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. For a representative who has just finished her first term, she's already made a gained notoriety as a rogue Democrat, also going toe-to-toe with former Governor Eliot Spitzer. She favors the English language-only movement, was the first representative to object to New York's plan to give undocumented immigrants driver's licenses, and she opposes creating a path to citizenship for them. Danny Cantor, executive director of the influential Working Families Party, told the Times, “People change, and we’re going to be optimistic and hope she does too.”
But she has also clearly been wise in the political alliance she has made as well. She has close ties with local congressional bigwig Representative Nita Lowey (who may have still been sitting in the senate seat at this point had Hillary not set her sites on New York in 2000). Like many New York pols, Gillibrand backed Hillary in the presidential primaries and saw both of the Clintons (and President Obama as well) campaign for her this past year.
Many heads turned when the man she once interned for, one-time Senator Alfonse D'Amato found his way front-and-center at the press conference announcing her selection yesterday. When someone asked D'Amato about finding an even more prominent place in yesterday's photographs than Schumer, the man who defeated him ten years ago, he responded, “No one ever blocks Chuck out for long.”
And it may be Schumer that played the biggest role in Gillibrand's rise. While her "centrist views" seem to have been a sore point in initial criticism of her, it was likely that nontraditional mold that led Schumer to push for Gillibrand as one of a handful of Democrats that he thought could infiltrate traditionally Republican districts in 2006. (There is already talk that State Senate Minority Leader James Tedisco has his eyes on her vacated seat.)
Calls that Gillibrand's stances as appealing to her upstate constituency but out of touch with those around the Big Apple seem ironic since she was attacked in her initial congressional campaign as being “more familiar with the price of dog-walkers in Manhattan than the price of a six-pack at Stewart’s.”
Some think that such a dichotomy could prove to be a winning combination for Gillibrand. CEO of Burt's Bees and a former college classmate of hers, John Repogie, told the Times, “I could see her in the cabinet, indeed if not throwing her hat into the ring in eight years.
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Oh my, a politician who believes in the Bill of Rights as the Founding Fathers intended! No wonder so many people are freaked out.
The 2nd Amendment was meant as the citizens' last line of defence against a rogue central government. Tyrants don't let the people defend themselves. The democrats want to install an oppressive socialist state, that's the real reason why they want your guns.
Why should people in rural areas give up their constitutional rights because liberal big city politicians let crime get out of control? The 2nd Amendment has existed over 200 years, it's only in the last few decades since liberal social policies have been enacted that violence has skyrocketed.
Because farmers don't need assault weapons and neither does any other civilian.
They will when the last page of the constitution is lit on fire by the tip of a Cuban cigar and the government stormtroopers come to round up political dissidents and anyone else they don't like.
I think it's time to get your oil checked.
"Because farmers don't need assault weapons and neither does any other civilian."
Really? What's the difference between an "assault weapon" and a deer or a target rifle in the same caliber?
(Hint, are you going to ban camo pants also?)
Also, how many law-abiding people people have been killed by legal owners of "assault weapons" or even pistols?
(Hint, be sure and compare against how man law-abiding people have drowned in pools or died from mistakes in hospitals, or killed by drunk drivers)
Finally, will you put this sign on the front door of your home or business?
http://mksviews.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/no_guns_allowed.gif
Actually the framers did have assault weapons. Those bayonets weren't for hunting were they? They had nearly matching armament to the British infantry. So following that and the supreme court's miller decision, anything used by national infantry is protected.
"Nation of Cowards."
Ides, all 'real' New Yorkers (i.e Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn) know that our rights as American citizens aren't to be found in something as vulgar as the actual Bill of Rights. They are to be found in "penumbras" (abortion) or Thomas "had nothing to do with the Constitution" Jefferson's personal correspondence (separation of Church and State)!
And one wonders if there is an actual right to privacy, how is anything so intrusive as the income tax constitutionally justified? Let's face it, the government can find out anything they want about you under the pretext of examing your income.
Just goes to show how stalinist the democrats like Schumer have become when it comes to keeping a rigid party line.
What's strange but a lot of dittos like Ides is that they place so much faith in firearms as defense against government tyranny, but have stood by and even supported recent administrations that have vastly expanded the power of government (Bush 43). And also mock or criticize organizations (such as the ACLU) that do far more than a smattering of armed civilians can do to reign in government power.
I never knew "hunter's rights" was such a big issue?
Anyone who thinks a gun collection will stop a determined federal force should look back at what happened in Waco, Texas.
but why she is blocking data trace for illegal gun sales and waiting period to buy guns. Her allegiance to the NRA instead of the public is sickening.
Also I don't trust the governor. What a fiasco to fill this seat. I think all his cocaine use in the past has damaged him.
Anyone who thinks a gun collection will stop a determined federal force should look back at what happened in Waco, Texas.
There's quite a difference between "federal government vs. 200 people" and "federal government vs. the entire general population".
We are too comfortable a society to just think in terms of fighting the federal government with guns. If the feds know all your little dark secrets, you will not think of fighting in any way, much less with a gun. Only the marginal radicals with little to lose or no shame will think this way.
Yes, I think we're ready for her! Readier than say, a socialite who was deigning to interrupt her parties for a bit for "senating" for the common folks. Readier than for Andrew Cuomo as well. Maybe I would have been happier with Carolyn Maloney, but Gillibrand is good too. Did you know she plans to reintroduce ERA ? Works for me!
Yeah, but they have flame throwers, cruise missiles, nukes, biologics, and daisy cutters.
The barn door isn't just open on the 2nd amendment, the barn is a pile of ashes.
They wouldn't need that kind of stuff. Simple Abrams tanks and Strykers would be enough. Ask the Palestinians how effective their AK-47s are against Israeli tanks. So watch as ides' next move is to declare that the 2nd Amendment gives people the right to own antitank missiles to protect themselves.
Who but the most ridiculously paranoid thinks the goverment is going to send the military against the populace anyway? That would be just asking for civil war and desertion en masse. The government is too fractured to make a disastrous decision like that in any event. They can't come together on anything. Does anyone think Congress is monolithic enough to form a "rogue central government"?
Will she end public housing in New York?
Why does every New York Democrat have to meet with Al Sharpton? He's not even an elected official.
What a Democrat party diss!
Thank you Gov. Paterson!
According to my view if you have newly found your interest in cigar then getting right taste may be bit tougher task for you. When new cigars arrive, take a good look at them. Two things to look out for at this point: excessive dryness; excessive moistness. Another thing to keep in mind: if you’re keeping your cigars in the humidor over a long period, it makes a lot of sense to rotate them every few months. There is a myth about flavor amongst layman that every Cuban Cigars uses same tobacco and hence has same flavor. However, the reality is perfectly different. There is a broad variety of tobacco and its flavor as well you can gain adequate information about connoisseur of fine cigar from your nearest cigar shop. It does not matter whether the shopkeeper smokes or not.
According to my view if you have newly found your interest in cigar then getting right taste may be bit tougher task for you. When new cigars arrive, take a good look at them. Two things to look out for at this point: excessive dryness; excessive moistness. Another thing to keep in mind: if you’re keeping your cigars in the humidor over a long period, it makes a lot of sense to rotate them every few months. There is a myth about flavor amongst layman that every Cuban Cigars uses same tobacco and hence has same flavor. However, the reality is perfectly different. There is a broad variety of tobacco and its flavor as well you can gain adequate information about connoisseur of fine cigar from your nearest cigar shop. It does not matter whether the shopkeeper smokes or not.