Dubai Debt Issues Push Stocks Down
Family Gets Early Christmas Gift From Ellen DeGeneres
Stuy Pyro Leaves Notes In Hieroglyphics
Photos of D Train Murder Depict Bloody Panic
Have Fancy Dress & Thirst For Spotlight, Will Crash State Dinner
The Center for Constitution Rights analyzed NYPD data between 2005 and the first half of 2008 and found, "approximately 80 percent of total stops made were of Blacks and Latinos, who comprise 25 percent and 28 percent of New York City’s total population, respectively. During this same time period, only approximately 10 percent of stops were of Whites, who comprise 44 percent of the city’s population."
Additionally, the CCR found "Blacks and Latinos are more likely to have physical force used against them during a NYPD-initiated stop than Whites. Yet the rates of summons and arrests from all stops is not only extremely low, but nearly the same across racial categories." In fact, for 2007, only 5.8% (27,632 arrests) of the 472,096 stops resulted in an arrest. The Daily News spoke to the NYPD, and spokesman Paul Browne pointed to a 2007 Rand report (which suggests the police do not racially profile during stop-and-frisk) and "said the number of minorities who were singled out under the policy is consistent with overall descriptions by race provided by victims and surviving witnesses of crime."
CCR is presenting the data in its lawsuit accusing the NYPD of racial profiling. One of the plaintiffs, David Floyd, a pre-med student at City College, said, "Getting stopped repeatedly by the police in my own neighborhood on the way home from work is humiliating. I brought the lawsuit to make sure they don’t do this to other innocent people on the basis of race. The police have to be held accountable when they break the law, just like anyone else.”
add to stumble upon
add to reddit
tweet this
post to facebook
Hopefully when Obama finally takes office all the blacks and latinos will be exonerated.
Perhaps they can import some blond-hair blue eyed whites into the high crime areas just to frisk them and even out the statistics in accordance with politically-correct doctrine. The reality is that in the high crime neighborhoods the majority of the population is black and latino.
This isn't racism, it's law of averages.
Ah, the racist trolls have beaten me to the punch. Happy MLK day, you bastard GOP goons.
By racist you obviously mean anybody that doesn't blindly accept your liberal/marxist orthodoxy no matter how divorced from reality it is.
What percentage of stop-and-frisks are of lower income people? Would that account for the high rate of black & latino stops?
i think white people are just less likely to commit the types of crimes that stop-and-frisks prevent. Instead white people are more likely candidates for embezzlement, fraud, serial murder, perjury, and racist police brutality
solution: stop-and-audits?
The majority of stop-and-frisks are in response to radioed descriptions provided by victims of crimes. It's not just cops randomly stopping people.
Thanks, I have always heard the term, but never really knew much about it. It really must be horrible to be an innocent person being stopped like this.
Obviously the crime victims and witnesses providing the descriptions of the perps are in dire need of mandatory diversity training. How dare they give the police information that doesn't conform to multiculturalist dogma.
Uh, no. Absolutely wrong. Exactly the opposite. The vast majority of stop and frisks are not in response to any particular crime report.
While it's not supposed to be "just cops randomly stopping people," the vast majority are recorded as a response to "suspicious activity." Someone "moved furtively," or "left the area upon our arrival," or "had an object in his hand which appeared to be a weapon," or "a visible bulge in the waistband."
A stop and frisk is a "Terry stop," after the court case Terry v. Ohio. It requires "reasonable suspicion" that the person is "armed or dangerous" or has been or is about to commit a crime. It's a different thing than a stop with "probably cause" (as opposed, again, to "reasonable suspicion") which is what happens when someone matches a witness or victim description.
Typo: "probable cause" above, of course, not "probably."
But there is no color in regards to rapists and pedophiles. Also, many caucasian shoplift. what is the purpose of stop and frisks? Is it to find drugs and/or weapons then they should frisks all races since Caucasian do carry illegal weapons and drugs as well. In fact a lot of Russians and Albanian are involved in home thefts in the suburbs.
Good Felix, you didn't blame the Jews this time.
if the police really want to reduce crime then they should do RANDOM searches because they all people will be on their guards.
typo: they should be then. blah, (before I have 10 commenters commenting on proofreading) LMAO
Don't these cops watch Law & Order? all the criminals are white. Look! there goes Bernie Madoff with 50 billion tucked underneath his arm..
they should do random searches, wasn't there a story
last week of the guy who shot another guy for blocking the driveway? I bet you'll find lots of guns in the white areas of Staten Island or Bay Ridge.
Are you insinuating that shooting someone for obstructing your driveway is unwarranted?
no, but there was a story last week of a thug
who shot a guy just because he asked him to not block his driveway. this white guy had a gun on him, in fact, I think
the victim's brother yelled, He's got a gun!
and, what does insinuating mean? is that like the firearm in your avatar?
I'm just saying that if I come home and find someone in my driveway they better run like their life depends on it, because it does.
Something's wrong here. The text says that 10 percent of stop-and-frisks were of whites but the chart shows that it's more like 30 or 40 percent. And the text says that blacks and latinos were 80 percent of stops while the chart shows they were only around 50 percent. Who does the cockamamie charts around here anyway?
Yeah, like a cop on the beat frisking Bernie Madoff is going to immediately figure out he's running an elaborate ponzi scheme and stashing billions in Swiss bank accounts and slap the cuffs on him right there.
Whae da white wimmin at?
For all of the people that think that the figures are wrong, go out and buy a scanner and listen to the description of the perps. I noted the descriptions of the perps in several lower Manhattan precincts for two months and the figures held pretty true to the above mentioned 80%+. Considering the area I was monitoring is predominantly white and Asian I can see the percentages could be even higher in areas not so white and Asian.
I doubt that many of the white and Asian thugs go into predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhoods to do their street crime shit. What's Al's take on the figures?
I really don't care what his take is. He's part of the problem also.
To say police abuse their authority is redundant—
as everyone who’s ever been on the other side of
a badge knows, the only authority of the police
rests on the abuse they can threaten and inflict.
Police brutality is not an aberration from the norm,
but normal life in this society taken to its logical
conclusion. Wealthy executives, warmonger
politicians, and others who benefit from inequality
and oppression claim that law and order must be
established for peace and freedom to be possible,
but in fact it’s the other way around: crime and
violence can only intensify as long as our so-
called protectors enforce the social imbalances
that give rise to them.
I remember reading about this in City magazine in 2007 after the indictments in the Sean Bell case. Two statistics stood out to me:
1. "Blacks aren’t stopped enough, considering the rate at which they commit crimes. Though blacks, 24 percent of New York City’s population, committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in the city last year, according to victims and witnesses, they were only 55 percent of all stop-and-frisks."
2. "These specific facts about the Bell shooting are just a few of the hundreds of thousands of data points that reveal a hard truth: any given violent crime in New York is 13 times more likely to have a black than a white perpetrator."
If "racial profiling" means giving black folks a hard time just because they're black, that is an outrage and must be stopped. But if "racial profiling" means that cops are stopping and frisking people who match the physical description of reported perpetrators, then that's great. How else should they look for perps? By their shoe size?
I am a white male and I've been stopped and frisked three times before. Each time someone who looked like me had just committed a crime nearby and they thought I was the guy. Once it was right in front of my apartment building. Sure it's embarrassing to put your hands up against the wall and be searched while your neighbors are watching, but I knew I hadn't done anything wrong so I happily and politely cooperated. If I was the victim of the crime I'd want the cops to be doing exactly the same thing. If the police spend all their time worrying about whether or not they might embarrass possible criminals, they will not catch anyone.
If you are a tallish young black male, you have an unfortunate resemblance to most of the violent criminals in New York. If you are an old Chinese woman, you don't. One of you is going to get stopped a lot and one of you isn't. Tough luck.
This is all distracting from the real problem about how to build safety, prosperity, and community in black neighborhoods, and how to improve black childrens' sense of worth and ambition by providing positive roll models and illuminating career and education opportunities. Filing a lawsuit against the PD inhibiting their ability to search possible criminals in black neighborhoods is not productive - it's just perpetuating a combative relationship. These people should focus their efforts on fixing the fact that half the black men in New York don't have a job.
The "Why can't you be more like Obama?!?" stare of disgust should be taught in every grade school til they are in their teens. This, plus the "What the fuck is wrong wit' you NI**A!?" Scowl should place a psychological impact on most inner city youths. Only then will peace, harmony, and tranquility rule the land.
"But if "racial profiling" means that cops are stopping and frisking people who match the physical description of reported perpetrators, then that's great."
And it isn't a "stop and frisk," and wouldn't be counted in these numbers.
"Stop and frisk" is the term for a detainment and search that is legally carried out without probable cause -- that is, under the lower burden in which the officer has observed "unusual conduct" that creates "reasonable suspicion." If the person matches a specific description, that constitutes probable cause for search, and that stop wouldn't be included in this report.
@ivoryjive, do you really believe it is all about embarrassment? in regards to the old chinese woman, if they frisk her the police might find a box load of bootlegged DVDs. Your own biases demonstrates why we must have RANDON searches and not PROFILING even if the profiling is not based on racism. People's own stereotypes and biases targets certain groups and left the rest off scott free. RANDOM searches. Blacks and Latinos are not the only ones carrying illegal items. Embarrassment is the least concern .
If Jen Chung and the rest of you apologists ever came down from your glass office buildings and/or out from your chic, insulated neighborhoods you'd know why this statistic exists. Aside from the few remaining wannabe Gottis left in Brooklyn and some of the Eastern Europeans, white people in NYC fit into one of three categories: hipsters, WASPs and blue color law and order types. I'd say 20% is probably a very liberal estimate of people in these categories who may have a concealed gun or drugs.
PS: If you've never lived anywhere near the hood and you're just regurgitating what Professor DownWithWhitey coughed up last semester on the fifth floor of the Ivory Tower, seriously just STFU already.
Missed you Bernie. Time to lock and load again and get rid of some of the scum on the streets.
HEY! Apparently the Asian-looking ones ones don't get stopped-and-frisked. Right on! So now it's safe to carry my rifle underneath my coat. Just in case a pig tries to get at the stash in my back pocket, of course.
"...the number of minorities who were singled out under the policy is consistent with overall descriptions by race provided by victims and surviving witnesses of crime."
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Well, what percent of violent crimes in the city are commited by black and Latinos? Post and compare the data. If it's skewed, then it's profiling. If it correlates, then police are just following trend data and making wise decisions.