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More Rallies, Protests Over Israeli-Hamas Conflict

2009_01_stophm.jpg NY1 reports that a group supporting Palestinians protested in Union Square yesterday. NYC Labor Against War's Michael Letwin said, "We know the Jews have experienced oppression throughout the centuries and we can recognize oppression when we see it. And we know that the Palestinians here are the victims not the perpetrators." However, over at the United Nations, a rally with local politicians was held in support of Israel. City Councilman David Weprin said, "Israel should not cease fire now, until either Hamas is defeated or Hamas relinquishes its power. Until that time comes, Israel must continue its current course of action. Israel must finish the job," and Rep. Anthony Weiner said, "Hamas began a campaign of terror that's gone on for years. And I think Israel is doing all it can to end it in the only way they have left." Today, it's reported that Israel is moving its offensive to the southern part of Gaza.

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  • nyrangers

    they were shooting rockets from that school, read the news.

  • books

    yesterday I watched as the world reported one version of the UN bombing and the eventually counter story put out by Israeli propoganda and then dished out by the US media.

    I dare you to compare how the US reports on Israel and how its depicted in other countries and not be shocked at the manipulation thats served as news.

    Meanwhile, back in reality, John Ging, Gaza director for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, said he visited the school, where he was "reassured by my own staff [there] that there were no militants in the schools.

    "If anybody has evidence to the contrary, then let's bring it forward," Ging told reporters in New York via video link."

  • CR

    The Palestinians need to be protected from Hamas. As usual, they're their own worst enemy.

    http://www.jewcy.com/post/hamas_political_failure

  • The Edge
  • The Man Bat

    rdsizzle....YOU WIN!! spot on, sir, Spot-freaking-on!

  • The Man Bat

    Mr. Mel, funny you should mention 9/11...let's take a look at what Benjamin Netanyahu said on 9/11, and I quote:

    "Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ”It’s very good.” Then he edited himself: ”Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.”

  • rdsizzle

    So when you have a rich army and are capable of killing thousands of people in the strike of a button you are honorable. However, if you have no army and your only way to fight is using guerilla tactics you are a terrorist. Murder is murder, army or "terrorist"

    These people have been driven from their homes and sent to live inside a wall; that’s apartheid folks.

    Then again, Palestinians don’t financially contribute to U.S. elected officials campaigns nor do they control the North American media so its kind of hard to hear their side of the story...

  • Legalist

    @rdsizzle: I agree. The situation for Palestineans is not bright at all. That is the core of the problem. The cause of it is, in some measure, Israel's actions (blockades, etc.).

    The solution, however, is NOT the one Hamas suggests: namely, to get rid of Israel. Israel has done some wrong, but it has also done some right, chiefly giving the Gaza Strip back to its citizens in 2005. And what happened next? Hamas wrenched it from Fatah, and instead of building a strong government and infrastructure, stockpiled its citizens' homes with rockets.

    Hamas is not good for Palestineans not only because its raison d'etre is to get rid of Israel, but because by attempting to do so, they divert national/pan-Arabian attention and money away from real solutions to the plight.

    You can support Palestineans, but you cannot, by any means, support Hamas.

  • drewo

    spot on.

  • yg

    I have a lot of sympathy for freedom fighters. Fatah, for example, renounced terrorism. Hamas not only encourages it, but directly participates in suicide bombings and rocket attacks of civilian targets.

  • fugothamist

    amen

  • Mr Mel

    I notice that the Palestinian supporters have started to appear again after a 7 year lay off. They used to be out regularly before 9/11/2001. After their celebration of the WTC attacks, they had to cool it. Israel has been hit by suicide bombers and rockets and held back long enough.

  • a rational person

    "After their celebration of the WTC attacks, they had to cool it"

    When exactly did Palestinian supporters here in the USA celebrate the WTC attacks? Please cite some evidence or else stop maligning people for no good reason.

  • The Man Bat

    As soon as everyone realizes that the Zionists currently running Tel Aviv have carte blanche in Washington ( see Lieberman, Joe) the happier you will be. Israel is going to do what it wants to do and there is not a damn thing anyone can or will do about it.

  • ixvnyc

    Ok, let's say Israel has the right to do this.

    But let's stick to the principle then, when Russia bombs the shit out of the towns where people who killed 300 of their children (to name one of the many terrorist acts of the Chechen rebels) hide in.

    We are the most powerful and influential nation in the world. Our own hypocrisy is largely to blame for many of these problems around the world.

  • barryap

    Did you support the U.S.'s action in Honduras? Kosovo? Afghanistan? Iraq? Do you support intervention in Darfur? Any or all of these?

    You can't have it both ways. Either we are the world's police, or we aren't.

  • books

    The UN is supposed to be the world police, and the UN has open resolutions that call for a RETURN TO 1967 borders...but its 40 years and that still hasent happened

    This is a good article about power and how we determine whos the terrorist is...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/29/gaza-hamas-israel

  • fugothamist

    i happened to be in europe last week and also was in europe when israel attacked lebanon a few years ago.

    it was so refreshing to to see objective, fair news coverage on this issue, as opposed to the bullshit from the US media...although i must admit that this time around it is a bit better (slightly)

  • goldemi

    oh yeah, like the bbc last night that showed women injured when israel bombed a building they were in that was stockpiling armaments, gave them advanced warning it would be bombed but they stayed nearby anyways to serve as shields, and the bbc reporter says "israel says it tries to prevent these civilian casualties, but try telling that to the ones injured". european news is appalling in its one-sidedness.

  • junkrabbit

    Right, and the US-media is sooooooo much better than european news outlet...

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