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After transit officers wrote 65-year-old Estelle Stamm a ticket in 2007 for bringing her "pony-sized" service dog into a subway station, she successfully sued the city for $10,000. But why stop there? She's also suing NYC Transit for $10 million in a federal lawsuit that accuses workers of violating her civil rights by trying to force her and her giant dog from the transit system.
Stamm insists she has a right to bring her dog on the train and bus because she suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder brought on by a childhood history of sexual abuse. Transit lawyers are arguing that Stamm isn't really disabled, and according to the Daily News they've assembled 8,000 pages of Stamm's Internet postings, in which she brags that her dog's breed—livestock guardian dog—is dangerous. This reportedly includes assertions that her dog has "tremendous killing power" and could be aggressive toward elderly cancer patients because "she can smell death, and she doesn't want it near her."
The ongoing lawsuit was sparked by an incident in 2000 when a bus driver refused to proceed with Stamm's dog on board, and told the other passengers they had Stamm to thank for the delay. She claims one passenger then warned her, "If I'm late for work, I'll find you and kill your... ass!" Stamm, who carries an ID card for the dog issued by NYC Transit, says she's continually questioned by transit employees about her disability, which she says is prohibited by transit regulations.
She's now awaiting a ruling from a federal judge on whether to toss the suit, and tells the Daily News, "These sons of bitches don't like to be told what to do." Of course, Stamm isn't the only one forced to fight for her right to bear dogs; in March a High School principal in Westbury barred a deaf student who tried to bring his Labrador Retriever with him to class.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out why someone with post-traumatic stress disorder needs a dog with them.
...in March a High School principal in Westbury barred a deaf student who tried to bring his Labrador Retriever with him to class.
Does the dog understand English and do sign language to the kid?
If I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder the last place in the world I would want to be is in the subway
she does not sound like a nice person.
If she has the card, then she has the card. How she ever got the card in the first place is the real question, imo.
The NYTimes had an article over the weekend about a blind lady who walks around with a real horse to guide her, instead of a dog. Why haven't we seen that yet on the subway, I'd like to know?
This is hilarious because that dog is way huge. And apparently has tremendous killing power.
There was an article in NYT magazine this weekend about service animals like monkeys and parrots being used to help people with everything from psychotic tendencies to agoraphobia. monkeys and other non-dog animals are frequently barred access to public locations for public health reasons. interesting debate.
i don't understand why people who are disabled would want to live in NYC. it's not the fact that they are disabled, it's the fact that you can feel the loathing from able bodied people getting pissed off at you every day. If I were disabled I'd move to new hampshire or rhode island somewhere instead of having to deal with all this bullshit everyday. I hate this crippled lady on the bus route to my mom's house. Bitch takes 20 minutes to board, 20 minutes to get off and she only stays on for 2 stops! As soon as I see her on the line I just jog home instead.
Word the Fuck Up BH !! I can't STAND those Jerry's Kids MoFo's either!! LMFAO!!!
Oooooo, Now you comment, but ignored the BABY HITLER Posts!!!
Damm Yoooooou!!!!
(ahem)
Back on topic: Assuming your not joking, I'm betting that old lady is more inconvenienced than you are.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and move to New Hampshire Baby Hitler. Oh, and by the way, you are disabled . . . MENTALLY and SOCIALLY!!!
Livestock guardian dogs must be capable of defending livestock from hungry predators with very big teeth in the country. Tiny poodles aren't up to the job. That's why the breed was created, but that doesn't mean she's bring in a subway time bomb. Otherwise NYPD couldn't use GERMAN SHEPARDS.
"Kill your ass?"
She's clearly coocoo for coco puffs, but if she has the card for the dog then she has the card. And the dog has never hurt anyone so let her bring it on. Damned shame to live your life in so much fear all the time though. Even if she was abused as a child she's 65 now! That was a long time ago. (And who knows if she was abused or just one of these weirdos who dreams up repressed "memories" of things that never really happened.)
looking at her picture I wonder if she was ever married?
I second the kookoo for cocoa puffs theory.
her ID card should come up for review just like the MTA's access a ride program users.
Is she wearing a hunting jacket in that pictures? Safety orange with a camo pattern, worn in the city, with a dog she states has great killing power... Sounds more like she's cruising for a fight. I'll be interested to read the follow up to this when the dog bites someone. I wonder if the dog is a certified service dog, because it certainly wouldn't be certified if it showed aggression.
Hunting jacket, that's hot.
I bet her down dere looks like Fidel Casto's beard, though.
i ate a bad clam when i was 8. can i bring my elephant?
The dog does not look that large.
And there is no way to judge how someone deals with stress or speculate what happened to them... everyone is different and she has a card for the dog. She could also be a big douchebag, but that's not for us to judge.
I can't wait for that dog mount a small child.
yes, I've seen this once. then we'll see who get's sued.
a bit late since she spent the $10K she was scamming from the city already on scooby snacks and twinkies.
Poor dog...
Let's hear it for 'tolerance' and 'diversity'.
What a freakin' loon.
If anything should be investigated here is is who issued her the card.
I wonder if I can get one saying I need a helper dog because I am a vegetarian and the dog helps me by eating meat.
The big issue i have with this, is even though it may make her feel safe to have a dog with "tremendous killing power" it makes me feel super UNSAFE. She hardly looks like she could pull that dog off someone should it snap and the dog isn't wearing any form of muzzle other then what looks like his leish looped around his snout. What is protecting all of us from the "coocoo" and her killer pooch?? I give that bus driver props for kicking her butt off, maybe he has post-traumatic stress from being attacked by a dog as a child. She should not be allowed in public around so much distraction with a dog of that size and power, nuff said.
I give that bus driver props for kicking her butt off, maybe he has post-traumatic stress from being attacked by a dog as a child.
Funny
I think a pencil held Navy Seal style poked in the eyes of the dog will put it down quickly.
Fuck dogs altogether. They, along with horses, do not belong in cities. I think it is immensely inconsiderate to own a dog in the city no mater how conscientious you think you're being. You and your fucking dog are still in everyone's way, and so is their shit.
What a potty mouth. There's a time for the Queen's English and a time to belt out expletives. It's called tact...bitch.
From the article it sounded like she was saying the dog isn't just a vicious fucker, it's her dear sweet vicious fucker.
I'm officially indifferent to this particular woman's grief.
this is what happens when we allow crazies to define their "needs" and put them ahead of everyone else's.
Wonder why your fares are going up? This and other frivolous lawsuits against the TA play a large and mostly hidden role in it.
The TA is blowing this out of proportion, comparing it to a pony. A pony is 500 lbs. It is only a sheepdog, she is using as a companion dog. The city failed to protect her when she was raped as child. Now her future is in her hands. Unfortunately in NYC, you can not defend yourself. Let her loyal companion act as a deterrent, and it maybe it just might take a bite out of crime and sterilize the next pedophile!