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Chris Crews, New School Student

121908crews.jpgAs you've probably heard, for several days a group of students at The New School University occupied a dining hall in the Graduate Faculty building at 65 Fifth Avenue, which is scheduled for demolition. Among their demands were the resignations of university President Bob Kerrey and other officials, and voting representation on the search committee for the interim-Provost and the Provost.

Yesterday a scuffle with security led to the arrest of one student, and last night police were stationed outside the room and preventing students from leaving to use the bathroom or receive any supplies. According to the New School Free Press, around 3 a.m., "after roughly an hour of discussion and comment on a seemingly endless torrent of tangents," students voted to vacate the building without getting the desired resignations, but with some concessions from the administration. Yesterday afternoon one of the dissidents, Chris Crews, a first year MA student in the Department of Politic in the New School for Social Research, responded to our questions via email from the "New School in Exile."

So what happened with the "excessive force” mentioned on the New School in Exile blog? The students attempted and successfully took over a side entrance out of the building that had street access to 13th Avenue. This was done so we could let supporters inside who had been turned away by security at the main (Fifth Avenue) entrance, as well as to bring in more supplies. During that time security attempted to force students out of the doorway and re-close the door.

Students attempted to use crates, boxes and miscellaneous items to prevent this. This led to the primary security officer on premise assaulting several students in the process, and two heated confrontations with what we deemed to be excessive and unreasonable force. We also have video documenting the chief security officer attacking the students, as well as other confrontations with the police.

How many students are in there now? At this time, I would estimate we have somewhere between 80 and 100 people. There was a huge influx of new people that came in after noon today. So we have die-hards from last weekend when the occupation really got started, and people who just joined in the last hour or two.

Are police immediately outside the room to arrest anyone who steps out alone? Not yet. The only person who was arrested so far was arrested outside of the side door during the earlier scuffle I mentioned. The NYPD showed up and then left, but returned again about half an hour ago. It’s not clear what the police might do, or if the university would seriously bring in the police to arrest the large group here now.

Have any faculty members joined you or voiced their support? There have been faculty memberswho have come in throughout the day, and others whom students talked with while they were out flyering and canvassing on campus. The overall sentiment has been extremely positive, although we have not seen any formal faculty statement yet on the occupation.

Why are you occupying this particular building? It is being held for two major reasons. First, this is the only student space on campus where we can gather and study, access the library, or otherwise work as groups, study sessions, etc. Additionally, this building is closing at the end of the semester (next week) and will not be re-opened, further signifying the loss of student resources without any real alternatives being provided.

What do you hope to change by occupying the building? We hope to have our demands met, in particular the resignation of university president Bob Kerrey, executive vice president James Murtha, and board of trustee member Robert Millard. Additionally, we hope to raise the larger issues of student empowerment, institutional transparency and a focus on academics.

How long do you think students will continue the sit-in? We are committed to occupying the building until our demands are met, or the police drag the last one of us out.

Do you have enough supplies? Yes, but more are always welcome!

One student, Marcus Michelson, told the Times the occupation was intended to “start a dialogue.” But when Kerrey came to speak with you today, the students refused to meet with him. Why? Because our demands are simple, we want his resignation. There isn’t really any need to negotiate that point, and since he wasn’t willing to make that statement, there wasn’t anything else to hear from him. I think the “dialogue” issue is a bit of a canard coming from some of those who just want to improve things, not actually change the structure of how this university operates.

So what’s so bad about Kerrey? Besides his involvement in the massacre of Vietnamese villagers in Thang Phong as part of Operation Pheonix? Or his involvement with appointing people like L-3 Communications who are involved with interrogation and torture of detainees in Iraq? Or his support of pro-war, conservative politics as the head of an institution devoted to critical academic research and scholarship?

I’m told you changed your list of demands. What are the demands now? The list of demands has not fundamentally “changed.” We are still calling for the resignation of Kerrey, Murtha and Millard. We are still calling for an institutional role for students, and not simply lip service about how student input is important and matters a lot to them. We are still calling for more resources to go to students. We are still calling for institutional transparency in decision making.

Kerrey’s blog has been experiencing technical difficulties. Have you occupied that, as well? Perhaps…

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  • CankerousPrick

    I just find it funny that Crews is a first year student, and already seems to know so much about the university. It's been three months, not a year.

  • contrabalance

    jpeditor:

    You, my friend, are the (gender-neutral) MAN.

  • jpeditor

    contrabalance:

    ( : >)+

  • jpeditor

    If you don't care for the politics of the administration, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE APPLIED TO OR SHOULD TRANSFER OUT OF THE SCHOOL.

    Or better, grow a pair, and start your own CHEniversity.

    Unlike the communist and jihadist tyrannies you support, (as evidenced by your inane "class war" comments and your arafat noose/scarf), in America we still have CHOICES on where we can spend our money and get an education.

    And here's a hot tip: continue to step up your efforts to deny us our freedoms, and you WILL get (and brutally lose) the uncivil war you are clamoring for.

  • Editrixie

    Chris Crews wrote:

    "...street access to 13th Avenue."

    So, it's true! He really is dumb!

  • contrabalance

    Chris Crews, you wrote:

    And finally, what's with the personal attacks on me, as opposed to real issues? All I can say is that I do make my own soap, I'm not a communist or socialist ... guess that makes my some sort of nut job liberal in your limited typography of personalities, huh?


    You wish. It only makes you a liar:

    ‘We are currently waging a class war, and the elite minority will refuse to give up their power to rule us.’

    ‘Those of us struggling in the United States to oppose an exploitative system grounded in capitalist theories and assumptions are not alone.’

    ‘We need to stop thinking of ourselves as protestors and begin thinking of ourselves as political revolutionaries waging a systematic and calculated series of assaults against the organs of a fundamentally flawed capitalist system.

    We must begin to create alternative systems to capitalism for economic transaction, ones which are structured around a goal of providing necessary goods and services to the people...

    Shall I go on? Okay, one more, just for fun:

    In short, we looked like a bunch of angry kids throwing a temper tantrum, which is far from the truth!


    ... as true today as it was 8 years ago, comrade.

  • reallynoreally

    I understand your gripes with what you believe he's doing to the academic environment of the school, and I applaud you for doing something about an issue that affects you personally, but have absolutely no idea how, as someone studying politics, you don't recognize the importance of dialogue and refused to speak with Kerrey.

    And fyi, I don't think wars in Vietnam or Iraq war were/are justified, but nice assumption. I'm just saying that the stuff that goes down during times of war is never as black and white as we'd like it to be...harsh reality. Maybe I'm a little more sympathetic to vets because I actually know a lot of them.

  • icup

    I will be a grad student at the new school paying my own way so I am not offended by the rich kid stereotypes but I am confused as to how a student's so called 'entitlement' disallows them from participating in a protest such as this. To assume that an individual's upbringing determines the validity of their opinions and actions is depressing. Think about your own life. Do you follow in the footsteps of your parents and the particular class you were raised in?

    On a separate note, I am sort of admire people like crews for trying to do something in real life (even if it lacked a crystal clear message) instead of sitting in a starbucks and blogging in anonymity on his macbook, like the rest of us.

  • chriscrews

    Many people also seem to have a misunderstanding about the Kerrey situation.

    1. Our concerns include his involvement in the massacre of numerous civilians (mostly women and children) in Thanh Phong as part of covert US activities in 1969, his continued support of what many of us see as a continued illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq, and most recently and most immediately, his inability and lack of qualifications to be a President of any university, much less the New School. And more to the point, people defending Kerrey assume:

    1. that what he did should not be considered a war crime, and;

    2. that US involvement in Vietnam was even legitimate to begin with.

    I do not hold either of these views, so yes, that makes me unsympathetic to his defense on both of those accounts. That doesn't change the brutality of war, but neither does it justify it as ok. People seem to be confusing the two in comments here.

    2. I wonder how many of the posters here would suggest we deal with Kerrey and senior administration when they have no interest in listening to our voices, or giving us any form of meaningful input. Should we just shut up and be happy? Seems like you offer a critique with no solution, while discounting the point of the protests, leaving us in a no-win situation where all we can do is accept our problems as unchangeable and intractable...

    And finally, what's with the personal attacks on me, as opposed to real issues? All I can say is that I do make my own soap, I'm not a communist or socialist and sorry, I just happen to have naturally frizzy hair...guess that makes my some sort of nut job liberal in your limited typography of personalities, huh?

    chris

  • chriscrews

    A few comments, since I did this interview.

    1. I pay my own school tuition for the Ph.D. I am working on earning here, as I paid for the MA I did before that, so drop the snide comments about rich kids at school. I worked hard to get into this school, and to suggest otherwise is to be ignorant of the reality behind my comments.

    2. There are serious and long-standing problems both with President Kerrey, VP James Murtha, and Board of Trustee member Robert Millard. These include their lack of academic background and abilities, which are manifestly clear to anyone actually involved with the school who have to interact with them in any manner. The faculty vote of no confidence and the firing of 5 Provosts in less than 7 years under Kerrey are just the tip of the iceberg.

    3. To suggest that this is some attempt to re-live the 60's is to misunderstand completely our motivations, and shows a sad lack of real interest in understanding the reality that led to this occupation. We were, and will continue to address, real and substantive issues of academic resources and decision making that have a direct and daily impact on our ability to conduct research and do quality scholarship. Many of the comments here completely ignore that. It's a bt frustrating listening to people laugh and snipe at us for being rich kids complaining about trivial issues, as if somehow commenters have some moral high ground on which to analyze our goals and motivations.

    4. Many of the students involved in this action were actually from NSSR, not Parsons, but collectively we had students from Lang, Parsons, Milano, Mannes, General Studies and NSSR and were both graduate and undergradaute students. The issues we were addressing cut across all of the schools, so I think everyone had a stake in the outcome of these issues.

    5. I was willing to put my time and my efforts into this because I want a university that I can feel proud of, and which has a serious committment to being academically engaged in issue of the day. Many schools cannot claim that role, and the New School in particular has been a beacon in this issue, especially during WWII, but in the last few decades has been losing that original vision. Many of those involved in this believe in that original vision and want to revive that spirit of engaged and critical scholarship within the New School. While I was in this occupation I was still working on final papers while doing extensive media outreach, showing that you can be both engaged and focused at the same time. I fail to see why people simply assume we were having a huge party inside and not still working as students?

    Finally, I can't help but find it a bit amusing to read some of these comments. How many of you who had enough time to make snide remarks or leave short insults are involved in making your workplace, your community or you home a better, more just place to live? If you don't care enough to get involved in making this world a better place, why don't you just zip it. I fail to see where your high-horse moralizing has any real credibility beyond similar people who have nothing better to do than flame blogs like the Gothamist...

    chris

  • contrabalance

    #33: ...and the truly disturbing flipside, is that if it's el Ché, Mao, or any one of the many psychopaths who fronted the CCCP, they call them heroes, freedom fighters, &c., ad nauseam.

    Really horrific, but hey, the worst evils are perpetrated in willful ignorance. More and more, I come to believe these are the types that fervently supported Hitler until the bitter end. I say this without waxing hyperbolic.

  • Dude69

    "whine"

  • Dude69

    You can tell he's one of those radical douchebag who hates everything capitalistic, but yet would bitch and shine if his daddy cuts off his weekly checks. I am sure he would believe anything he reads on the internet if it has a picture of Che next to it.

    #28 - He probably doesn't wash his hair because he doesn't want to contribute to the bottomlines of giant corporations such as Proctor and Gamble but too lazy to make his own soaps from organic products.

  • reallynoreally

    "So what’s so bad about Kerrey? Besides his involvement in the massacre of Vietnamese villagers in Thang Phong as part of Operation Pheonix?"

    I love when young people today act like they understand what it was like to be a soldier in Vietnam. It's easier to take the moral high ground when you're years removed from the stresses of the incident and not a young man being shot at.

    Tell it to veterans I know who have told me terrible and heartbreaking stories about kids the Viet Cong used. There was a Vietnamese kid who used to come into their camp and they'd give him toys and food...then one day the Viet Cong strapped explosives to him and he blew himself up in their camp.

    And as far as refusing to have a discussion with Kerrey, are you freaking kidding me? What kind of person studying politics cuts off dialogue?

  • contrabalance

    Reporedly, Kerrey was under police protection as he was ‘chased down the street by an angry mob of students.’

    What do you think this is, the bolshevik revolution?

    I eagerly await the forced famines, censorships and bureaucracies. And the eventual orgy of indie docs commemorating this stunt.

  • junkrabbit

    I heard yesterday some students "followed" (of course!) Kerry on his way out of the school right down to 11th street... that's messed up, the man has a prosthetic leg..

  • contrabalance

    AND the winner is: rasputinsghost!

    As someone afilliated with NS, I'm embarrassed at this impotent circle-jerk of delusional kitsch. The disparaging comments here are precisely correct. This isn't some video game, kids. When Daddy dies, maybe then you'll learn how a business is run and a budget is balanced.

  • safetytowhere

    Hooray, a non-victory was achieved in the most masturbatory media stunt since the last David Blaine bit.

    After more than two weeks of concerted actions on campus, students in the occupation were finally able to win significant victories in the ongoing struggle to improve the New School. Those victories include: an agreement not to press charges or impose academic punishments for students involved in the protest, the implementation of a Socially Responsible Investing (SRI) committee within the university, more autonomy and power for Student Senate to communicate with the student body, more representation on the Board of Trustees for students and faculty, and finally the creation of more student study space on campus.

    In other words, you got thrown a couple of meaningless bones. Sounds like Kerrey is still president, too. Congrats, my bourgeois comrades.

  • chopp3r

    Carla @ #14--Your post should read: "As a Lang alumna..."

    Also: Chris Crews, please wash your hair.

  • Ceez

    Thank God that the comments here are showing that it is RIDICULOUS for Gothamist to be covering this garbage.

    I love how he complains that the school was created for critical thinking and learning, but then acts twatty when someone he doesnt like refuses to give into HIS close-mindedness and quit.

    I said it in the last post. Graduate students should be more mature than this bullshit

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