Gothamist: Plaxico Heads to Giants Stadium, Hospital Under Fire

babyhitler

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:18:53 -0500

#14- so you want the same type of dudes at the walmart stampede to police themselves with gun safety?

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:57:34 -0500

nightclubs in israel and south africa have gun checks just like a coatcheck... theres a great scene in firefly where they had to check their guns, its not an outlandish scifi idea...

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:55:45 -0500

his actions are stupidity, gun safety means, no chambered rounds, and safety always on, the waistband tuck is also a dumb move... i say guns for the law abiding public with mandatory safety training

babyhitler

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:47:18 -0500

how many immigrants in vermont? exactly.

babyhitler

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:46:07 -0500

getserious - I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if you were at the nightclub and the loaded gun with safety off shot you in the stomache instead of plaxico's thigh when it fell from his sweatpants waistband.

lushintransit

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:13:57 -0500

Seriously, he was stupid. It ends there. Sending him to jail for multiple years is just plain taking advantage of the situation. It's not like he bought the gun on the street and shot up an alley: he had an expired permit in another state and accidentally shot himself. No one but him got hurt and he's manning up and turning himself in rather than running and being like "well, what had happened was..." He's a stupid fuck but stop wasting our papers and police trying to send him away for years for stupidity. To be fair, 170+ die in India and we've devoted 3 days of headlines to a fucking moron.

longacre

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:08:11 -0500

getserious: You make a good point, but I don't see how they are relevant to this story at all. Plaxico Burress is a rich guy who DID NOT have a gun permit.

Quidnam

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:28:18 -0500

Agreed, getserious. They should prosecute gun crimes to be sure, but it is no less important or urgent for the city to reform the permitting process to make it less onerous for responsible citizens to exercise their right to self-defense.

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:24:34 -0500

Some of us own handguns for protection. Others like to hunt with them. Still others enjoy participating in shooting competitions. But if you’re Martha Stewart’s daughter, Alexis, you own a pistol in order to shoot your dogs in the head She applied for a gun license after 9/11 so she could euthanize her beloved pets if disaster struck and she had to leave them behind. This is in New York City. Yes, that New York City. If the desire to whack your dogs is justification enough to have a gun in the home, what would the police say to someone who wanted to carry a handgun in order to protect and save their life?

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:21:07 -0500

Photographer Irving Elkin requested and received a permit on the grounds that he carries "money and expensive cameras." Bill Cosby was issued a permit in 1988 after stating that he and members of his family had been the object of unspecified death threats. Donald Trump and radio host Howard Stern also cited death threats. "Threats, as ever," wrote the conservative journalist William F. Buckley Jr. on this application for renewal of his permit.

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:20:44 -0500

Porn mogul Al Goldstein, the editor and publisher of Screw Magazine and producer of the late-night cable show "Midnight Blue," has been trying to get on the "gun carry" list since 1978, the year Hustler Magazine publisher Larry Flint was crippled by an assailant's bullet. Following a string of rejected applications, he has taken his case all the way to the New York State Appeals Court.

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:20:26 -0500

Bill Cosby is on the list. Joan Rivers, too. And Donald Trump, William F. Buckley, Jr., Arthur Ochs Sulzberger and Howard Stern. There's even a Rockefeller on it - Laurence. Harry Connick Jr. is not on the list and it cost him a night in jail. The list is of a select group of New Yorkers who have been granted the privilege of firepower: a permit from the New York Police Department to carry a concealed weapon when stepping out onto the streets of New York City.

getserious

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:16:05 -0500

The common goal of all gun laws was to keep guns out of the hands of minority races and immigrants while allowing free access for established white citizens. This concept of legalized discrimination still exists in several states that have not reformed their gun permit laws. According to information obtained through leaks and the Freedom of Information Act, many NYC permitees are celebrities and political cronies. The last time information was released, celebrity permit holders included William F. Buckley Jr., Donald Trump, Joan Rivers, a member of the Rockefeller family and Arthur Sulzberger, publisher of the rabidly anti-gun New York Times. Another over-represented group included those with crime connections. According to the Village Voice: "Other licensees include an aide to a city councilman widely regarded as corrupt, several major slumlords, a Teamsters Union boss who is a defendant in a major racketeering suit, and a restaurateur identified with organized crime." In New York City, only the wealthy have the right to armed self-defense. Contrary to the shrill scare tactics of the anti-gun lobby and some self-serving law enforcement agencies, blood did not run in the streets and people did not suddenly begin to murder each other over minor disputes. Violent crime, in fact, decreases when shall-issue laws are enacted. Peaceful Vermont, perhaps the most enlightened of all, needs no permit system of any kind, since any adult who is not prohibited from owning a firearm may carry it concealed at any time for any lawful purpose. Discretionary carry laws are a breeding ground for police corruption and an anachronism that should not exist in a society that prides itself on fair and equal treatment for all citizens.

SP

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:59:08 -0500

"And the NYPD is why investigatinging why NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell, which treated the Giants star, did not report the shooting to the police." One of your finest sentences yet. Love it.

Dirk

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:52:21 -0500

Athletes getting special treatment? That never happens...

Jen Chung

Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:51:40 -0500

Re: Daily Show, I like the idea of Plaxico as the wheelchair bound detective, wearing a Sherlock Holmes style coat.