the 80 was the home for the bomb squard..........did they have one of those in your ravaged neighborhood in raleigh?

oh......a dichotomy is two exactly different ways of going about the same thing.......180 degrees out.

Enter key much?

hey.....i was born there .....classon ave.,park pl.,lincoln place, sterling place,st.john's, underhill, eastern p'kway....italian, irish, and a few purto's,with the hall scent.

the mullies moved up from bed sty, past fulton street, on up classon ave. to eastern pk'way........it was car ariels, then poppin' people on the head cummin' up from the train stations, ta' guns up your ass.................yeah.......let's make this another new york hipster place...... for the fair, honest sought, with good will in there hearts, and full of self gratifing ideas.........i'm afraid it don't work there..........it reminds me of a greek myth.............. as the cave goes, the string "isn't" long enough, and the minotour(sp?)

eats the hipsters for lunch........been back 2yrs. ago..........too many people hangin' out on stoops........too many people in the neighborhood loaded with anger.........pops in the paper are not the same as pops in your head.

' long enough, and the minotour eats you for lunch..........remember, that's after a long boat ride across the sea........me ....ain't no fair there......too many pop pops and decided ta' move.......it 'll eat you up.

Well I beg to differ, yes it's common but not universal, it's certainly not NECESSARY or logical for that matter. It's endemic of NYC culture, certain people start to feel "entitled" to certain neighborhoods. No one is. You are all straw dogs for the landlords. They'd just as soon ripoff and bleed young whites for these overpriced rat traps as they would deal with delinquent, violence prone renters from the lower classes.

chris, it happens everywhere.

when someone lives in an area for their entire life they become hostile to outsiders.

ive seen it all over the united states in different shapes and forms but its essentially the same deal. Most of my relatives are guilty of it.

"interlopers", "newbies"..last time I checked ALL of America is a free country. This missplaced hostility toward people who DO WHAT PEOPLE IN A FREE SOCIETY DO, which is move around from place to place to experience new things..this sick hostility masks a resignation to the lack of civility and social ignorance of the inner city poor to whom you falsely look as the "soul" and "flava" of the city.

this is an isolated incident.. i've lived in the neighborhood for most of my life and crime is not even close to being where it used to be. i despise the gentrification but i hate the violence

Couple of things:

1) How much dumber, pathetic, and for lack of a better word immature can the criminal element get in my neighborhood? I thought these idiots idolized mob movies, and scar face and all that? Did they take anything away from these films in regards to planning, execution, and consequences? Don't crap where you eat, guys.

"Give me your crappy snacks and 100 bucks."-Really? Thats the best you can do?

2) Fraud is much easier to commit and has a higher profit. So go to school kids, get an education, and really steal some dough.

3) I live around here, no one likes gun shots. I'm pretty annoyed. Everyone's pretty chill and this violence was probably some sort of personal thing, I'm guessing....I feel like the dudes selling are solidified have somewhat of a monopoly in the area, and don't see how they'd want any trouble upsetting the balance.

4) Just sayin, but what do i know. Where I'm from we just stampede over the dude.

ROFL @ #12

POST OF THE WEEK!

^ To add to your point, I never heard of a thug who asked his victim where he was from, except for the ones in L.I.

I think you guys need to take a stroll through the crime reports. You'll find that most victims of serious crime are locals; shop owners, old folks, teens, rivals, etc. Newbies get a lot of smack-talk directed toward them, and the odd smack-down, but you're kidding yourself if you think that locals are somehow immune to crime. Criminals prey on whoever they can. Period.

Tough folks in the neighborhood will grow to respect the respectful and self respecting, but they too are preyed on by the sociopathic few who make it shitty for the sociable many.

That's nothing. I was walking down the street one day and saw GW Bush invade Iraq on false pretenses, then torture & murder scores of innocent Iraqi men, woman & children. All this in plain few of 57 million people.

Thanks for the info, Arches.

When I was there, it was tough white people.

Now it's tough black people.

Like the man says above, just be cool.

Umm...the "8-0" hasn't existed since the 1970's. You might want to swing by Prospect Heights...things have changed a bit in the last 30+ years.

The old 80th precinct building on Washington is no longer a precinct (Prospect Heights falls under the 77th now). It's some sort of administrative building (although I think there's some SVU activity in there too).

the locals can sense the interlopers, if you're native, they'll know. this is the same in any neighborhood in NYC, whether it's Bensonhurst or Park slope or the Village and Hell's kitchen.

just be cool, be a good neighbor, watch out for each other, offer some booze or weed and you'll be fine. sure you'll have your hard core but I guarantee you'll make friends.

so, don't be afraid of the dark. or, white, or whatever.

it's just that these kansas folks are still stuck in their ways. I happen to think they come from michigan.

A shooting in a densely populated city brings out all of the hateful know it all trolls

honkey*

not every white person in these neighborhoods is "from Kansas," #10. a lot of us actually grew up in brooklyn and queens and our parents can't afford to let us mooch off of them forever. yeah, i go where the rent is cheap so i can actually have something to eat at least once a day.

the myth of the ignorant mid-america honey yokel needs to be taken down a peg or two.

As the economy worsens i fear, unfortunately, this is only going to become "normal" news. People are getting more desperate by the day. :-(

Maybe that's why they wanna raise the MTA fares, so all the bad people will stay at home and keep all the rich yuppies of manhattan safe & sound!

The question isn't whether they want to be displaced from their homes by rising rents. That's a false dichotomy(if that's the right term).

I share your disgust at the phenomenon of overpriced rents and displaced tenants, but you should direct your anger at the landlords and developers who drive up the prices as high as the market wiill bear.

Give us some examples of someone you know who enjoys being shot, beaten, or mugged because it keeps newbies out.