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The Wal-Mart worker killed during yesterday's morning Black Friday sale stampede at the Valley Stream store was identified as 34-year-old Jdimytai Damour of Jamaica, Queens. Newsday reports that the Wal-Mart entrance doors were broken down by a restless crowd of 2,000 shoppers--many of whom had been waiting for hours--as workers were getting the store ready for the 5 a.m. opening. Damour, a temporary worker hired for the holidays, was pushed to the ground and trampled. Detective Lieutenant Michael Fleming, who is investigating the death, said, "This crowd was out of control," and "They overran him and kept running into the store. They pushed right over his body."
The Post suggests that the crowd became unruly because the store didn't open exactly at 5 a.m., and according to the Daily News, before the opening, "Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers."
Shopper Nakea Augustine, who took photographs of the mass of people, said, "Nobody was trying to help him. They were rushing in the store, rushing, rushing, rushing." A cop said that cops performing CPR on Damour were also stepped on by shoppers. Another shopper said that Wal-Mart employees' pleas to shoppers were ignored, "When they were saying [shoppers] had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling, 'I've been on line since Friday morning!' They kept shopping."
While Wal-Mart called Damour's death a "tragic situation," Local 1500 of the United Food and Commercial Workers had a comment (Wal-Mart does not have union workers). Local 1500 president Bruce Both asked the NY Times, “Where were the safety barriers? Where was security? How did store management not see dangerous numbers of customers barreling down on the store in such an unsafe manner? This is not just tragic; it rises to a level of blatant irresponsibility by Wal-Mart.”
Det. Lt. Fleming also called the chaos "foreseeable." Damour's friends and family told Newsday that he "was an easygoing, helpful man who loved poetry." A friend also said Damour, who had done construction work, "was a big man and had no apparent health problems."
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Ghetto Fabulous.
Where was Wal-Mart security? If they saw 1000 or 2000 people lined up outside their store, why didn't they have a plan? Other stores hand out chits to those on line for the various limited specials, disappointing some but at least it is some sort of crowd control.
"This Crowd Was Out of Control"
no shit...
I've heard of depraved indifference to human life, but this is ridiculous. Even after they knew about the guy, they still just wanted to shop? I don't know how they can sleep at night. Too bad there's no surveillance video. Some people should be charged with murder. Maybe the DA should subpoena records for every credit card transaction within the first half hour. If they weren't murderers, they were surely accessories to murder.
They should line those dumb pieces of Shit execution style, and beat them all to death with their flat screen TVs. Useless pieces of shit
@Spirito - I was just saying the same thing about the credit card slips to my sister.
I also cannot believe that this shit happens EVERY. YEAR.
It's a socioeconomics problem. I assume that this would not happen at my local Wal-Mart, in a white but upper-middle class area.
Though I could see this happening at in a lower income, white area, too.
That said, those people, regardless of race, are savages. How can you not stop to help someone up? The simple things in life make you a better person.
The problem here is fully the fault of WalMart. I hope the family of those injured or killed at WalMart will file wrongful death lawsuits and other related suits.
Management of WalMart needs to be held criminally accoutable here for criminal negligence. Management of WalMart need to be forced to stand trial. Congressional investigation could also be warranted.
The Rego Park, NY WalMart was supposed to be NYC's first WalMart and I thank goodness it was successfully shot down.
Degenerate savages.
The meaning of Christmas was long ago trampled underfoot by the forces of consumerism.
This country is fast losing its soul.
don't get between a dog and his food
Sounds like Shinobi shaw was raped by a Black man - hope your anus has finally stopped bleeding
Wow, I find myself agreeing with Ides.
People don't give a shit about anything unless it directly effects themselves.
There definitely should be security cameras if this was right at the entrance. I've seen video in previous years of the throng of idiots who burst through the gates at these BF sales.
i've seen the same kind of people do this shit just to get into a subway car! They knocked down this old lady and almost killed her just to get into the car first. I think it's more of a psychological problem. These people have been marginalized in society and don't feel special so that they aren't noticed and do not have a sense of self worth. They wait in line for the most of their lives, They wait for social welfare they wait to get into school and they wait to get lunch at mcdonalds. Their education level doesn't allow them to rationally think, "hey I could go eat at Au Bon Pain instead there is no lines, but instead I'll eat at Mcdonalds with that huge line". They could also get most of this stuff online without the hassle of waiting but cause they are dumb and don't know how to use computers they don't. The waiting on line is a metaphor for their lives. They'll always be waiting on line, trying to break free but they don't realize that they don't have to wait on line. they are enslaving themselves.
Walmart is use all the profits made from Black Friday to pay the $25 Million to settle the Lawsuit with this guys family. This guys family just won the lottery
Y'all are racist. This same shit happened last year at a store in a white area. Instead of psychoanalyzing this "marginalized degenerate savages" you should go shove your sociology degrees up your asses.
@hoodlum, citation needed.
The cult of consumer goods. What kind of idiot would even BE there in the first place?
hoodlum, go shove the plasma screen you got at wal-mart yesterday up your ass and buy your 5 babies some happy meals at mcd's [your baby mama won't do it 'cuz she's getting little designs painted on her acrylic claws]. then put the crack away and find a job. hey, you should check whether that LI wal-mart is hiring -- i hear they lost an employee yesterday. bye!
fucking racist assholes. this has so much more to do with being poor and uneducated than it does with being black.
generalization is so fucking lazy.
This incident further illustrates our country's slide into 2nd World status.
#11 is right - the only way WalMart will change their dangerous ways if they are held accountable for this tragedy.
And whatever monetary amount they are ultimately forced to pay can be passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices!*
* applicable only to the Valley Stream WalMart
Has anyone ever been to Green Acres mall? Its been the ghetto mall of queens/nassau county for years. Everyone knows this!
[23] Even you're wrong on some level. Being poor and uneducated is still not an excuse. Weren't there news stories some years back about a cleaning woman who saved most of the money she made and donated all of it, a very substantial sum, to a college or something after she died? She was poor and uneducated, but she had tons more class than many well-off people, like Donald Trump, Isaiah Thomas or Stephon Marbury. It ultimately comes down to not being raised right -- nothing more, nothing less.
#19 - you are racist, cause you think I'm talking about black people. I never mentioned black or white but why would you think it's black people? I already said in the other post it don't matter if it's black, white or asian, it's the hoodlum lifestyle. See, you've proven my point with your marginalized mind. You hear Keywords and you automatically go on the offensive. You've got stockholm munchausen sydrome. You secretly want to be enslaved so you have a chance to rebel, thus being a hero. But, you don't realize that the person that's enslaving you is yourself.
If I were the family, I'd sue walmart for at least a billion.
They made the poor guy wake up at 3 am or earlier to open a store to satisfy a consumer greed that they helped fuel. And then they didn't even account for the employee's safety when any clinical psychologist or social anthropologist would have seen the possibility of this. But they'll use that same science to try to sell their goods.
So, a billion dollars, your honor.
Oh, and the fact this company stayed open to continue to sell as this man's soul left his body...
...a billion.
walmart basically was a woman who showed up with a short skirt and her boobs out and wanted the guys to fight over her to ask her out. Instead the guys raped and killed her. So do you blame the victim or what?
@26 you're right. i could've takedn more time to write that out. its not just poor or uneducated, it does have a lot to do with the way you are raised. anybody who's ever been to the targets in queens or brooklyn has probably seen the way there's hundreds of kids (of all races) running around, knocking shit down and knocking into customers while their parents don't do anything about it.
also, please don't take this as an insult if any of you are native new yorkers:
this is a very new york thing. i've seen the way kids are raised in this city, and parents tend to show their kids that they are entitled to anything, that they don't have to wait in line, or wait to cross the street, or follow traffic rules. its very animalistic in a lot of ways.
Hype it up and people are going to act like animals. Walmart and this capitalist society are ultimately to blame for this.
#27, did I say anything about black people? Did I say my post was directed to you? Sounds like you've got some racist white liberal guilt.
terrible story. american society (consumer-driven capitalism) is rotten to core.
I love how hoodlum never provided a citation.
When I referred to the "degenerate savages" it was a description of the crowd's behavior not their skin color. The person who automatically assumed a connection between that phrase and black people is the racist.
While life is not perfect, this incident could have been prevented in this case from happening in the first place.
The WalMart executives should be ashamed of themselves for this incident.
The worker was hired I think through a temporary agency if I recall fully and in those contracts, it usually forced you to sign a disclosure which could prevent WalMart from paying up for this incident.
DeathMart is now open. Please wear Chain Mail Armor. Thank you.
Look, let's make this clear, right of the bat.
I am of LATINO descent, yes I have caramel skin color.
It does not take a white person to figure out these people in the ghetto are savages and sheeple animals that perhaps need to be herded,
But don't worry, when the ELITE of this world (and BTW its no wonder they have contempt for us, what with these people given them more reason to) finally manage to have their EUGENICS Control grid then the real fun will begin.
The Elite want 90% of the world population reduced, it's events like these that truly make me feel that perhaps that is not such a bad idea after all.
negros de mierda
In reading the comments (all over the web, not just here), I am reminded, yet again, just how flawed humanity is. This tragedy is not an ethnic thing, a welfare thing, a class or social strata or mental illness thing. It's a failure of humanity. Humans are savages. That's a stark fact. People trying to paint it their way to justify their own racist, hateful, puny minds back up my point. Anyone remember that general admission concert in 1979 in Cincinnati starring a little band called The Who? The crowd broke the gates down and eleven people were trampled to death. How will racists spin that one? How about the soccer hooligans in Europe who beat each other to death with axes, logs and bottles evry single year? Anyone takers? I could go on but I would exceed the bandwith of the entire internet. A man is dead because of savagery.
Whenever someone calls you a racist, realize you are winning the argument.
This is excellent!
Not a single person posted an ethnic comment. Nobody said anything about "blacks" or "latinos" or been remotely suggestive of racism in their posts here.
It seems that a bunch of minority groups are coming here to cry foul when the ball hasn't even been thrown.
Remember people, words like "The Ghetto" and "Poor People" do not mean "All Those Dirty Blacks". It means "THE GHETTO" and "POOR PEOPLE". There is no racism involved here. Get over it!
Let us recall that Sean Puffy Coombs first received notoriety in 1991 when a concert he promoted at CUNY was oversold and NINE people were crushed to death in the stampede trying to get in.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
I love how the same racists who posted 90 comments in the last thread came back to post more racist vitriol. You're not done?
This didn't happen because people were black. It happened because people are fucking stupid. In general. Stupidity spans all races and economic classes. This is just another example.
Also there is ONE comment in the thread about skinheads in long island.
Why not spend 90 posts talking about how fucked up that shit is?
And lastly, if this whole thread isn't testament to how stupid white people can be I don't know what is.
No one went up there with the intention to kill. They went with the intention to buying into the false notion that material excess will bring you a little more happiness. . Will make someone look up to you or accept you more. This stampede is no different than the religious stampedes in other countries that have killed thousands at at a time. The only difference here- this is Americas religion sadly, and this was a stampede
List of notable stampedes
1,426 - stampede by pilgrims inside a pedestrian tunnel (Mecca, 1990)
1,400 – 2,000 - Khodynka Tragedy at coronation of Nicholas II, (Moscow, 1896)
953 - Baghdad bridge stampede, (Baghdad, Iraq, 2005) (note: because the stampede was triggered by reports of a bombing, this figure is also included in the higher estimate for casualties of the War in Iraq)[citation needed]
800 - crowd crush at religious festival (Allahabad, India, 1954)
362 - stampede at the stoning of the devil ritual (Mecca, 2006)
340 - Moscow soccer match crush (Moscow, 1982)
270 - stampede at the stoning of the devil ritual (Mecca, 1994)
258 - crowd crush at religious festival (Wai, Maharashtra, India, 2005)
251 - stampede at the stoning of the devil ritual (Mecca, 2004)
224 - 2008 Jodhpur stampede disaster, in Chamunda Devi temple, Rajasthan, India, September 30, 2008
200 - stampede in the central place of Nagpur ( Maharashtra, India,1992 )
matty, the fact that you just called white people "stupid" is racist. i can't believe you went there. that's the only racist comment in this whole thread.
across the country..
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/29/stampede-gunfire-kills-3-in-holiday-shopping/
tis the season...
#48, good research, but it doesn't explain this stampede.
Your cites involved people confined to a
small space FLEEING danger during a panic where there was NO escape.
This current event was shoppers rushing INTO an EMPTY space. They could have stopped or retreated. They were not fleeing harm like the religious pilgrims were, they were going in shopping.
Same with the Combs stampede cited in #44.
The Ghetto trash are lowlife scum who need to expand their vocabulary an have some sort of a vocation.
Instead they prefer to do THIS, Trassshhh! (yes, emphasis added for effect).
I believe there were more people killed at a Who concert some years back, but as usual this kind of po' folks in the ghetto story is both sides are right and wrong. The truth is that the quality of life around high concentrations of lower class blacks is wanting.
On xmas morning, when these savages' children are opening their stupid fucking presents, I hope the ghetto parents say something like: "I hope you like it, because I had to kill a man for it." not that the kids'll care, of course.
video of REVEREND BILLY's Response...
There is a dynamic with stampedes where people at the front of the line are pushed from the back and pressured to burst through a door or window. I've seen a bad one first hand and the ones at the front of the line were just standing until the force of the throng made them stampede. The fact that so many people were allowd to crowd the entrance without numbered passes and barricades makes Wal-Mart fully liable for this death. And they are lucky that it was just that one guy.
Ridiculous...and shameful.
Thanks hungry customers. I wonder what the family of the victim's reaction was.
I haven't read a local headline that made me feel this way in a while.
Thanks for covering it though, Gothamist. People definitely need to see this and I notice the comment storm that it's created to.
Ridiculous...and shameful.
Thanks hungry customers. I wonder what the family of the victim's reaction was.
I haven't read a local headline that made me feel this way in a while.
Thanks for covering it though, Gothamist. People definitely need to see this and I notice the comment storm that it's created too.
A MODEST PROPOSAL
This is how our Founding Fathers or the Puritan folk who brought European society (such as it was) to Long Island would be thinking.
Putting on my 17th and 18th Century hat, this would be my proposal:
1. The beasts stampeding the entrance remind me of pigs on their way to the slaughterhouse. They should be treated as such as they have forfeited all humanity. Grind their vile wretched bodies and bones up for animal feed!
2. The racist commentators to this blog should be taken to a pillory in put up in their respective town squares, stripped and flogged till bloody and left out all day for all to see. Vermin like that don't deserve to live. Shame and more shame and imfamy be upon them and their families!
3. The TOP MANAGEMENT of Walmart, being guilty of MURDER, should be hung by the neck till dead. Those of the management that particular store who tried to control the crowd and who tried to help the unfortunate employee should be shown mercy with only a flogging of 24 lashes and a 6 month prison term at solitary confinement where they will meditate and repent their complicity as passive enablers to a monstrous abomination.
Ah, Ummmm, Jim, Jim? Stop ranting, we know you're pissed as you have a right to be.
BUT.....
This being the 21st and not the 18th century, I realize that there isn't going to be that kind of harsh Biblical style justice for these THINGS, satisfying as it might sound.
INSTEAD
I propose that there be a total ban on buying anything from Walmart, Target, K-Mart or other mass marketers this Holiday season. We need to bring their system of greed and exploitation to its knees and destroy it entirely if we are to redeem ourselves and reform as a civil, moral society. I further propose that no Holiday presents be given unless they were either directly produced by the hands of the giver, OR produced by someone the giver knows PERSONALLY.
If there really WAS a Santa Clause, he'd be giving us ALL coal in our stockings. American society and values have lost their humanity.
Attention Wal-Mart shoppers. Thank goodness it wasn't K-Mart. Imagine what would have happened when the blue light went on.
This is a tragedy, and a horrible reminder of the base level to which we'll drop to get a bargain.
Jasmineroses
You have put it the best so far on here. Most of these people are being used as pawns in what the media wants to portray to them, then they jump on it like leeches to point fingers and puff out their chest and try and make others feel bad because of their social or racial backgrounds. That's the problem with this world now, people are quick to point the finger instead of finding a solution. Stampededs and Savage actions such as these have happened at numerous events, on numerous ocassions, amongst many different races and social class.
How do we know these people are all on welfare?
How do you know they don't work their fingers to the bone for every dime they can save up to get something nice for themselves for the first time in a long time?
How do you know some of them weren't striving college students, with no vehicle to take them out of their "Ghetto" surroundings?
Some people can't help their living situations that life has dealt, their not Heirest or OffSprings to General Motors and Ford Executives, but because they are currently bound to living in their neighborhood they're all considered Hoodlums?! That's very interesting. I didn't know most of you people on here knew all of those people in the store, their backrounds, their financial situations, living situations.
Don't be a bandwagon jumper, unfortunate events happen to many of people all across this world, so please don't be a pawn to the medias game.
Jasmineroses
You have put it the best so far on here. Most of these people are being used as pawns in what the media wants to portray to them, then they jump on it like leeches to point fingers and puff out their chest and try and make others feel bad because of their social or racial backgrounds. That's the problem with this world now, people are quick to point the finger instead of finding a solution. Stampededs and Savage actions such as these have happened at numerous events, on numerous ocassions, amongst many different races and social class.
How do we know these people are all on welfare?
How do you know they don't work their fingers to the bone for every dime they can save up to get something nice for themselves for the first time in a long time?
How do you know some of them weren't striving college students, with no vehicle to take them out of their "Ghetto" surroundings?
Some people can't help their living situations that life has dealt, their not Heirest or OffSprings to General Motors and Ford Executives, but because they are currently bound to living in their neighborhood they're all considered Hoodlums?! That's very interesting. I didn't know most of you people on here knew all of those people in the store, their backrounds, their financial situations, living situations.
Don't be a bandwagon jumper, unfortunate events happen to many of people all across this world, so please don't be a pawn to the medias game.