Gothamist: Mumbai Hostages Include Brooklyn Rabbi and Wife

NannyState

Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:38:29 -0500

Did anyone notice those flocks of birds flying around the Taj Hotel during its Mumbai seige? They were hoping the terrorists would target Zoroastrians so they could pig out on all the yummy human carrion.

Mr Mel

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:47:56 -0500

How come no Muslim clergyman ever condemns these murderers?

theevilone

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:48:45 -0500

"However, it took a while before the National Security Guards and naval commandos in the city were pressed into action. What explains such delay? Was it a multiplicity of commands or plain bureaucratic lethargy? The point is even in circumstances when personnel and infrastructure are available, planning and execution are shockingly poor. " http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Editorial/EDIT_Its_War/articleshow/3766472.cms

theevilone

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:29:43 -0500

I'm not talking 9 hours to stage a rescue - that took 30 hours. They didn't bring the army to Mumbai for 9 hours and when they got there, they had not yet been briefed on anything. The whole operation was a clusterfuck.

palestine

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:20:55 -0500

#1 I was thinking the same thing.

Rocknrope

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:32:16 -0500

#28, you don't just drop in a team on a rooftop minutes into a hostage situation like you see in the movies. The SF teams need to plan an assault - get the layout of the buildings, estimate the number of hostages, try to determine the number of terrorists involved and their location in the building, try to get intelligence from those inside, and memorize and rehearse the assault plan. Nine hours actually seems goddamn fast given the scope and spread of the attacks. In comparison, in 1980 British special forces teams didn't assault the Iranian embassy for SIX DAYS into the situation. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

theevilone

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:12:53 -0500

Why the heck did it take the Indian govt so long to mobilize its special forces? I mean the army didn't even get there for NINE hours.

mtauser

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:12:04 -0500

They were expecting attacks to take place in NYC as well.

blkiznewprez

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:10:55 -0500

Billiamsburg

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:02:28 -0500

I can never get too broken hearted when religious fundamentalists die. First of all, it's what they want. They want to be with their 'god.' So off they go then I guess. Now there's less time for them to fuck up the planet some of us care about living on. And I guess that leads to the second reason. They fuck up MY shit. They change laws, resist social change, cause war, cause suffering and even if THIS particular one never started a war he is an enabler of an institution who seeks the destruction of mankind.

Vaughan

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:51:55 -0500

a very incoherent statement, rolltide23. you make me so proud to be from alabama.

r1b2

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:09:14 -0500

@peanuthead, you are unfortunately absolutely correct. The other evening I saw a group of about 7 police officers in front of my home in downtown Brooklyn. I asked what was going on, as there was a bunch of activity earlier in the week around a double shooting (Hoyt Street.) They said they saw someone who matched a profile. There I was, white, middle-aged, in a suit, and all too painfully aware of the imbalance in the city. I am the beneficiary of some terrible history. I am never profiled. I ahte living in a city where I walk into a sandwich shop with my kids and the counter healp is never white like we are. There is still too much homelessness, too much hunger. But it's better than it was, better than it's ever been, and getting better all the time. I was born in the days befroe the civil rights amendment. I never would have been exposed to segregation growing up here in the North, but it was a reality in my youth. Today we have a president-elect who is not a white man. This is not meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If nothing else, it's important to be thankful for CHANGE.

peanuthead

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:56:11 -0500

@r1b2, et al. sure, many of us who live in nyc should be or are thankful we live in a place like this and be with loved ones in peace, but don't forget that there are plenty out there who do not feel or get the respect or love they should be getting. just ask those that get the stop-n-frisk dance from the nypd or the driving-while-black pullover, etc. even on their way to thanksgiving gatherings. just sayin'........

r1b2

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:27:54 -0500

Yes, sizzle, we gave thanks. You're right, NYC is a target, BECAUSE this is the greatest place to live in the world. My 12-year old son gave thanks for the opportunities we provide for him. He gets it, why don't you? I'm not suggesting we ignore the threats here, but I am imploring you to recognize how lucky we are to live in the relative safety. My heart goes out to the families of those who died in these attacks. And before the haters start in again, please show some sensitivity. these people were hunted because they were jews. Before you think about Israel-bashing, consider if the Israeli government supports and encourages open season on specific groups, the way jews have been specifically targeted all these years. Shame on you for suggesting NY is a target because the US supports Israel.

Shinobi Shaw

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:25:49 -0500

#17 , EXACTLY! It seems some of us have forgotten about that little tragedy we had 8 years or so ago.

Rocknrope

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:54:22 -0500

The rabbi and his wife are among the dead at the Jewish center. May they rest in peace, and their murderers brought to justice.

rdsizzle

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:46:48 -0500

"As we raised our glasses and gave thanks before our dinner yesterday, I discussed these current events with my kids. We should all be thankful we live in a city where we can be with loved ones in peace, and we should all take a moment to think of those in the world who live in fear and danger." Do you live in the city thats a constant target for terrorism and the one where 3000+ people died when jets crashed into its highest buildings? OK, i might be caught up in the fear mongering fox syndrome...but hey makes for good conversation.

MFer

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:40:11 -0500

You are right. I will not sleep well because you said so ... ha ha.

spreetaper

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:33:47 -0500

so much for following the comment policy!

JacqueMehoff

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:26:09 -0500

is Karma like liberal guilt the conservatives love to talk about? you know who was heartless? Nostradamus. at least he could have been more specific in details.

WesleySnipesAlot

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:23:12 -0500

your argument is as flawed and disgusting as you. When anyone dies and suffers it is a tragedy, so don't pull the 3rd grade logic on us. By the way, the Rabbi and his wife were found among the dead. Sleep well tonight you odious motherfucker.

MFer

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:16:09 -0500

Let me tell you a secret ... now promise me to keep hush about this ... I'm whispering... Here goes. No such thing as Karma. It's true. It's all bull. So is religion. And astrology. Hear me, Gemini? Oh, a lot of people are dead and dying in India. Why focus on these two? They are no more or less tragic than the others. And the ones suffering and dying before this incident. You just don't have it to feel compassion for the rest, right? Aren't you the heartless one!

WesleySnipesAlot

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:06:12 -0500

Apologies. I meant "you filthy basement-dwelling trolls."

PFCheungs

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:02:45 -0500

I guess the bike lanes may not be as important to this fine specimen after this ordeal.

DarkGemini

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:00:31 -0500

There's a good chance that these two young people are dead, and their child an orphan, and some of you are making jokes. I can only hope that Karma will see your heartlessness, and raise you 1 more. If they were in fact killed, may their souls rest in peace.

JacqueMehoff

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:58:14 -0500

what do you mean "you People"?

WesleySnipesAlot

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:48:01 -0500

You people are rotten to the core. I can't even begin to describe my disgust.

fakenewyorker

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:34:07 -0500

it depends on how they felt about bike lanes.

r1b2

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:22:18 -0500

As we raised our glasses and gave thanks before our dinner yesterday, I discussed these current events with my kids. We should all be thankful we live in a city where we can be with loved ones in peace, and we should all take a moment to think of those in the world who live in fear and danger.

WhereAmI

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:16:37 -0500

As long as they keep moving away from here, there will be less bashing

MFer

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:56:15 -0500

Exactly what makes him a "Brooklyn" rabbi? That he used to live here?

thefacts

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:51:54 -0500

Wonder when the Hasid bashing will begin?

The Edge

Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:46:59 -0500

She ain't bad looking at all.