It is amazing, i think that in order to support No on 8, the people had to have IQ's below 100. So, dream on Casey,with the homosexual pedophiles and polygamist who funded the No on 8 campaign.

My God says 'Thou shall not kill. Thou shall not steal. Thou shall not put any god's before me. He also says Homosexuality is an abomination to him.

Now,we do not go out and kill homosexuals for their sin or steal their NAMBLA pamphlets or in the case of the 95% of the Catholic homosexual pedophiles priests, their tainted robes.

So, I hate to break it to you Casey, "The wages of sin is death". For those heathens or non-believers,who like to misquote Jesus about judgment. When he stopped the stoning of the adulterous woman. He said to her "where are your condemning, see they are no more, and neither do I condemn you, SO GO AND SIN NO MORE, or cease from your aduloterous lifestyle or in this case your homosexual lifestyle. Forgiveness has a price, and that is the casing of the sinful act.

Consider, millions of dollars came from the Polygamist in Utah and the homosexual pedophiles in the Catholic Church and NAMBLA.

Also, I hear them suggest that Civil Union is not goood enough, because they don't get the same federal rights of marriage. But,

Read the Federal DOMA inacted in 1996, and by the way Califirnia's DOMA in 2000 followed this.

DOMA: The Federal Government may not treat same-sex relationships as marriages for any purpose, even if concluded or recognized by one of the states.

Prop 8 is consisted with the guidelines for the Federal DOMA and just like Protectmarriage.com said the No on 8 people are politically postering to no avail.

Also, consider The bill was passed by Congress by a vote of 85-14 in the Senate[1] and a vote of 342-67 in the House of Representatives[2], and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996.

That means that it was passed by 85% vote in the Senate and 85% in the House, which is consisted with 87% of America who value a traditional marriage.



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interracial marriage wasn't legal in all 50 states until 1967.. it was decided by the Supreme Court in Loving v Virginia. 1967! i was in the 5th grade. Felix the Cat i'm SURE would just as soon that never passed either.

gay marriage is going to happen, and it's going to happen in my lifetime. my state of connecticut has made it legal-yesterday was the first day of legal gay marriages, and you know what Felix? the sun came up this morning, there wasn't a single straight person forced into a gay marriage, there wasn't a single kindergarten student taught about it, there wasn't a single church that was forced to participate, nothing bad happened and you are still free to live your life the way you see it.

the fact that you think i should live my life according to your god and your belief system is doing unto me exactly opposite of the way you want me to do unto you. can you catch my paraphrased drift?

i hate to break it to you Felix, but women can vote now, men can't stone their wives for adultery, and slaves are illegal.

Fun facts of the day for people who think America is a 'Christian nation':

The God/'Creator' referred to in the Constitution is the philosophical God of Deism; many founding fathers, most notably Thomas Jefferson, were highly critical of Christianity and not Christian at all. The Constitution has a lot more to do with Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke than it does explicitly with Christianity.

That the money says 'In God We Trust' is a historical quirk of the 1860s; special interests groups - read: evangelical preachers - kept petitioning the secretary of the treasury until finally there was an act of Congress passed in 1864 placing it on the money to shut them up. So for the first 88 years of our country we operated without it on the money, and yet God did not kill us. Interesting!

@felixthecat:

"God is the law of the land".

You've hit on the crux of the matter. Whose god? Those who wish to ban gay marriage are imposing their own religious beliefs on the whole of society. Those who want equal rights aren't imposing beliefs on anyone.

By the way, allowing same-sex marriage not only doesn't force you to marry someone of your own sex, it also doesn't force any church to perform these marriages against their own beliefs. The only "imposing of beliefs" being forced around here is coming from the side that wants to keep all the rights for themselves.

On Sunday, November 9, a band of about 30 homosexuals stormed a church in Lansing, Michigan. Some were well dressed and were stationed inside Mount Hope Church, where they pretended to be normal Sunday worshippers; others were outside dressed in pink and black, reports Baptist Press.

The group of self-described homosexual anarchists, Bash Back!, claims the evangelical church is guilty of “transphobia and homophobia.” The group says that it fights for "liberation," opposes "all forms of state power," and urges members not to condemn certain methods of promoting their cause "on the grounds that the State deems it to be illegal."

During the service the protesters outside the church were beating on buckets, shouting “Jesus was a homo” on a megaphone and carrying an upside-down pink cross. They distributed fliers to passersby.

When the signal was given the protesters inside the church rose from their seats and began loudly to disrupt the service. The fire alarm was pulled inside the church, protesters stormed the pulpit and a huge rainbow-colored flag was unfurled with the inscription, “IT’S OKAY TO BE GAY! BASH BACK!”

The church was vandalized, obscenities were shouted and worshippers were confronted. According to Right Michigan the protestors in their demonstration also used condoms, glitter, confetti, and pink fabric. A video camera wielded by the homosexualists attempted to capture violent reactions from members of the congregation, of which there were none. Right Michigan also reports that approximately an hour after the demonstration two of the demonstrators were found by security in a public restroom in the church together. There were no arrests.

Bash Back! issued a press release on their website after the fact, which admitted that “the group was extremely loud and wildly offensive.” The group described Mount Hope Church as “deplorable” and “anti-queer.”

The release concluded, “Let it be known: So long as bigots kill us in the streets, this pack of wolves will continue to BASH BACK!”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue today responded, saying, “The real story here is the refusal of the mainstream media to cover what is surely one of the most disturbing events of 2008. If an organized group of gay bashers stormed a gay church, there is not a single sentient person in the United States who wouldn’t know about it.

“This is urban fascism come to America’s heartland. It must be quickly stopped before it gets out of control. We are contacting Mike Cox, the Attorney General of Michigan, calling for an investigation.”

Bash Back!’s actions in Michigan follow several days of homosexualist demonstrations outside California churches, protesting the passage of Proposition 8.

spnder: as someone on towelroad wrote:

"However, in reference to a previous post here about the "rogue" Democrats in the NY State Assembly, who are trying to force the issue of gay marriage off the table, is anyone protesting against them?

Has anyone planned a protest at Senator Ruben Diaz's home, or in his district? He seems to be single-handedly able to prevent the NY Assembly from considering marriage equality. Wouldn't the efforts of the GLBT residents of NY be better served by directly confronting the bigots in their midst, who actually have the power to prevent marriage equality?"

emphasis mine.

@52, stop sidetracking, did I ever say I would be forced to marry a man? why can you have equal civil unions, why must you redefine marriage. because this is not about civil rights but about socialization. you want to force your beliefs unto us. In Mass, children were forced to learn about same sex marriage and parents had no say over it since gay marriage is legal in Mass. if you really want equality then have equal civil unions but don't redefine marriage. You can't redefine nature to suit your agenda

#40 God is the law of the land and he made man and woman and the they produce child. man and woman fit perfectly (sexual parts). I don't care how you live your life but don't impose your ways unto me. Have equal civil unions, I don't care but don't redefine marriage. we won't conform to that at all!!!

@felixthecat:

How is allowing two adults to marry imposing beliefs on you? Perhaps you're not aware of the actual implications, but allowing same-sex marriage does not mean that you are going to be forced to marry someone of the same sex.

There were (and still are) people who considered interracial marriage to be against God's laws. Do you wish us to ban interracial marriage again so that nobody is "imposing their beliefs" on those people?

you guys made top story on the evening news,

great job organizing! and it was peaceful

Also truthspeaker23@34, it used to be illegal for interracial couples to marry. That's what people are discussing, regarding Obama's parents.

truthspeaker23: And under the DSM IV, homosexuality is no longer a disorder. Our understanding and ideas about mental health have changed over the years.

See: Hysteria and the treatment of women, especially regarding sexuality.

Felix:

again, your words:

what are your beliefs, that man marries man then go ahead but don't impose it on me.

that's all i ask of anyone and everyone. i don't care what your religious beliefs are. i don't care what your ideological beliefs are. i don't care who you are married to. none of it affects my life. all i ask is that your show me the same respect. my life has nothing to do with yours. you have absolutely no right to tell me how to live my life, and you have no right to make your beliefs the law of the land, especially when it so clearly violates 'all men are created equal.' equal means i have all the same rights as you. not a second but equal set. not almost equal. EQUAL.

Felix-

your words: "...No one is attacking Apple and other org for their donations to the Yes side...."

Apple donated their money to the NO side.

and why in the world would i want to meet you? and why in the world could you possibly care about who i may or may not marry.

when bigots make MY life,a nd my life's choices important to THEM, you can damn be sure i will not go quietly into their little walled existence.

The Mormons don't give a shit about these silly protests. They were murdered and hounded out of the east coast for their beliefs in the 19th century. Think they care about a few demonstrators?

The organizer is just seeking publicity for his run for office. Don't believe the hype.

Casey, that is what i wrote and I am not hiding, if you want me to meet you then tell me where. and casey, what are your beliefs, that man marries man then go ahead but don't impose it on me.

I said no one is boycotting apple for donating 100k to the No side. the no side lost and yet they can't accept it and want to force all of us to conform to their beliefs.

and again to Felix the Cat:

notice i stand by my beliefs with my real name. i don't hide behind the name of cartoon character.

to Felix the Cat:

Apple donated $100,000 to the NO side of Prop 8. please don't pass along misinformation as fact.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/24/apple-prop-8/

your thoughts are hateful enough without being factually incorrect as well.

Oppression as defined by most professional victim groups these days is whenever anybody refuses to knuckle under to their every whim and demand.

I suspect the Mormons will be getting a lot of donations from non-Mormons in the days to come.

The nerve to say this is an injustice imposed upon you and your beliefs...