Teens Charged with Hate Crime in Long Island Killing

2008_11_lucero.jpgYesterday, prosecutors said seven teens who attacked and stabbed Marcello Lucero (pictured) in Patchogue were specifically targeting Hispanics. ADA Nancy Clifford said, "In their own words, 'Let's go find some Mexicans to ---- up." Six of the teens were charged with gang assault as a hate crime, while one was charged with manslaughter as a hate crime and held without bail; they all pleaded not guilty. Newsday reports that Latino advocacy group Hispanics Across America may file a civil suit against the teens' parents, "Parents that teach their children hate are just as responsible as the kids who commit the crimes." And Lucero was remembered as a generous person who was excited about Barack Obama's presidential win; his brother said, "He saw it as a chance for people with brown skin to be seen as equals. Instead, my brother was killed because of his appearance." The NY Times has an editorial about Lucero's death, noting the anti-immigrant attitude encouraged by Republicans

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Hate crimes are horrible, and these animals, regardless of color of skin, should face the stiffest penalties.

Welcome to Barack HUSSEIN Obama's Amerikka.
Shame on the NY Times for trying to stir up racial hatred by blaming the Republicans. SHAME!

Civil suit against the parents!
How fkn awesome!
Sue them! Sue Them! Sue Them!

Shame on the NY Times for trying to stir up racial hatred by blaming the Republicans.

So let me see if I've got this straight. It makes sense to blame Obama for every possible story in the news involving cops or lawsuits or anything you don't like, but the GOP couldn't possibly responsible for this? OK, got it.

Welcome to Barack HUSSEIN Obama's Amerikka, where the president has the same name as some bad guy we killed.

Um, how many non-white people were seen at the GOP rallies?

How many white people were yelling "terrorist!", "kill him!", and a bunch of other hateful things when Sarah Palin, Repub VP Candidate, spewed garbage about Obama?

I'm not saying the Republicans caused this, but I'm surprised that with their recent racist negative campaign, worse things haven't happened. Shame on them for inciting hatred against minorities.

Hugo might be a troll, but he's right...the NY Times is clueless. Comparing the environment on Long Island to the attitudes of people in border towns on the Rio Grande is ignorant at best. When's the last time there was a peep about closing the borders or vigilantism against immigrants mentioned in NY media? It's been years. There certainly wasn't one mention of it during this year's campaigns. You know why they did it? Because they're typical Suffolk county morons who went above and beyond. They couldn't tell the difference between a Republican and Ralph Nader.

Dumb lawsuit! How do we know they learned to hate from their parents?

Lots of left-wing parents produce right-wing kids and vice-versa. Children of Nazis rule Germany today and are very contrite. Communists of the Soviet Union have bred children who today are Russia's capitalists.

It makes as much sense as suing the parents of a rapist by assuming they instilled mysogeny or gay bashers for instilling homophobia.

How do you prove it? Dumb lawsuit, cheap publicity.

The NY Times editorial ends this way:

It is not yet clear how closely connected Mr. Lucero’s murder is to this broad wave of xenophobia. But there is both a message and opportunity here for officials like Mr. Levy, an immigration hard-liner whose relations with his rapidly growing Latino immigrant constituency have been strained by past crises and confrontations.

Deadly violence represents the worst fear that immigrants deal with every day, but it is not the only one. It must be every leader’s task to move beyond easy outrage and take on the difficult job of understanding and defending a community so vulnerable to sudden outbreaks of hostility and terror.

comments #2 and #3 are two sides of the same fucked up coin.

ultra liberals and ultra conservatives...please go fuck yourselves.

Matty, i know you don't like my postings, but where exactly is my "ultra liberal'" here ahhh?
You self righteous "moderate"! , how safe of you to point out and exclude your self from any evil. You are one "good" "non biased" person!
Just because I call republicans a failure, Hello? Arrogant ass! Your determination in pointing at my"ultra liberal" ideas are pretty lame, specially when there are plenty of other that you ignore... I'm starting to see a self determined witch hunt!

Maybe if there is ground for a civil suit you should call the system "ultra liberal"...Biased is just not very "moderate" you arrogant idiot!

HUGO_MEGO please stop being an asshole for about a minute. While you are at it, please educate the masses as to why our President elect should be held accountable for this atrocity. You can't. I wish President elect Obama would come to your house and punch you in the face.

#11, Matty is what you call an excessively generous with his lack of arguments and plenty of judgments; he's both judge and party.

So you can sue the parents of the offender? God/Yahweh/Allah/Gaia bless the lawyers.

"noting the anti-immigrant attitude encouraged by Republicans "

What republican policy would that be? The amnesty for illegals bill that Bush and McCain tried to pass last summer? The republican party has done nothing but pander to the hispanic lobby.

Nice try Gothamist, most Americans don't have an "anti-immigrant" attitude they have an anti ILLEGAL immigrant attitude - not the same fucking thing! And they are entirely correct in demanding that people respect the country's borders and immigration laws. That's not xenophobia that is common sense.

You've learned your smear tactics well.

#6 "How many white people were yelling "terrorist!", "kill him!",

According to the official Secret Service investigation, none.

#12 whitecastlerock I doubt Obama himself would show up at my door but I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of his deranged cult members tracked me down to make me pay for heresy against the cult.

#11- Uh, you ARE the ultra liberal version of HUGO.

Just fyi.

omg. these posts are too fucking hilarious! It's like a foxnews liberal vs. msnbc republican fuckorgy!

Whoa! Did I detect a voice of reason amid insane demagoguery? This is why I keep coming back to Gothamist, because Jen is not batshit crazy and the Internet can use more of the same. Gracias Jen.

Yeah 11 you are! and this is deep thinking here!

#6 "How many white people were yelling "terrorist!", "kill him!",

According to the official Secret Service investigation, none.

This happened before Obama was elected President. And you can easily go on youtube to review some of the rallies. You can clearly hear "terrorist", "kill him".

If I'm not mistaken, we're still sixty-nine days from Hussein's America. This poor guy got killed on Walker's watch.

Like a lot of other innocent people.

Obama will be the president for two terms! Conservatives better get used to the GOP party being down the tubes for the next couple of years.

Civil suits are great at keeping trial lawyers and insurance companies rich and powerful, and little else.
Suing the parents in this case is pointless and misdirected.

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As usual, Ides is floating out in his wingnutosphere, where facts are less important than his angry, xenophobic impulses. The FACTS are that the Secret Service experience a sharp spike in death threats against Obama specifically coinciding with Sarah Palin's attacks, and blamed her directly for this.

Now, back to the topic of this thread: racism on SI. Just this August, a SI man was charged with a bias crime after slamming his red pickup truck into the storefronts of mexican owned businesses. Just last week a black kid was attacked by a bunch of white kids with baseball bats. Is it also coincidence that SI is the only NY borough to vote for McCain? Probably not...

Hugo just let Obama do his job, he wouldn't come to your place of work and insult you while you're making a big mac.

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Oh, and about the name "Hussein." It's a great name, and if I ever have a son I will give him the middle name Hussein. It means "good" or "handsome" or "beautiful." All appropriate for our new prez. And about as common throughout the Arabic speaking world as the name "John" is here. Get over it you douchebags. Anyway, this guy says it better than me. Since you hateful idiots won't read it, because you enjoy reveling in your willful ignorance the same way a pig enjoys rolling it it's own shit, I'll pull a few quotes for you:

"denigrating that name is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the most vile and debased sort. It is a prejudice against names deriving from Semitic languages"

"Barack and Hussein are Semitic words. Americans have been named with Semitic names since the founding of the republic. Fourteen of our 43 presidents have had Semitic names"

"In its Hebrew form, barak, it is found all through the Bible. It first occurs in Genesis 1:22 -- 'And God blessed (ḇāreḵə) them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.'"

Yes, God literally Baracked them!!! The word Barak appears 1288 times in the Bible.

Once again, and as always, you ignorant, hateful, angry idiots have been pwned, QQ bitches!!!

There is a particular kind of fear and xenophobia that Long Islanders have. Different from other kinds of fear and xenophobia. The following article explains just about everything that happens on The Guyland. And it is funny.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEEDA1E3DF931A1575BC0A965958260

The Republikkkan Bush admin incited hate and racism,,,, by allowing non investigated hate groups to register as volunteer vigilantes ...
bush is Criminally and socially responsible as well for inciting Hate Crimes and enticing and encouraging reckless acts of hate and local terrorism...

That wont happen back west,,, these kind of guys will get handled and get hanged as an example...

what's that? the repubs aren't teaching their youth to be racist? hmmm?

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/08/charlie-dent-staffer-college-young.html

this is the future of the GOP, folks.

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How many people voted for Obama just because he's African-American?

how many people voted for Obama just because he's AWESOME? this wasn't a pity party election, my friend. this country is in the shithole, and people voted for the best man for the job. i guess we know that repubs are incapable of doing what's best for this country, and only focus on their pockets and how much money from war contracts it will take to buy a fifth house or their thirteenth car.

if your theory is true, then would people have voted for a non-white republican for president, just because they're a minority? an african-american GOP presidential candidate would've never won -- not only because the party's in the shitter, but also, whoops, an african-american would never win the GOP primary because repubs wouldn't vote for him/her. is that racist? you tell me.

thank you. done.

This is a sad story but really indicative of the hate that exists on Long Island.
http://collegedemsny.com/blog/?p=352

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