Gothamist: New F Trains on the Way!

KitRigger

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:33:40 -0500

Forget shiny new trains. Lets get MORE FREQUENT trains for the F line. Why do I have to stand at Jay Street for 10-15 minutes waiting for one F train while five or six A & C trains go by. Then the F platform fills up and I can't even get on the already crowded train. Or maybe it will go express from 7th Avenue to Church Avenue and i'll have to get off anyway to wait for the next train because I get off on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy And what's up with those "Due to an earlier incident, F trains are running but the next train is at Broadway Lafayette 7 minutes away" One more rant before I go: My A train pulls into Jay Street and there is an F already in the station. The conductor clearly sees this train pull in but closes the doors just as I'm about to get off which makes me miss it by 8 seconds. Now I have to wait 10 minutes for the next one (see above rant) Thanks

AskRyan

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:23:13 -0500

What a shame - I live on the Q line, and the R160s have been terrible. The reduction to 44 seats per car from 70 means far more uncomfortable trains, longer wait times as people try to shove on board, and a nightmare for pregnant women and people with disabilities. Out in Flatbush and Midwood, I've heard of at least three community groups trying to lobby for the older trains, or more frequent R160s. Chronically broken onboard automated maps and announcements aside, they also seem to break down way more often the older cars - there have been malfunction-related delays during the 8am-9am morning rush hour at least once a week since they were introduced a few months ago.

Reflect

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:50:26 -0500

The new trains are so bright surgey could be performed inthem

supernova

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:01:32 -0500

YAY! I wonder, are these newer as in the L/N line or newer as in the 6/5/4? Either way, good news! I also have to agree with r1b2, today I had to wait about 15/20 minutes at Bway/lafayette and then when it got to 7th Av they announced they were skipping 15th St so I had to wait more over there. Do not worry A/C/E riders, you'll get the orange trains of the F...

lushintransit

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:21:33 -0500

At 10AM this morning, they were testing these at the 57th street station.

Wza

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:03:20 -0500

I don't know, I like the E trains. Has an old school feel to it...especially when it runs express, you feel the bumps and turns along the way. Also, the old E and M trains were iceboxes in the summertime. Maybe it's just me? *shrug*

kjp216

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:04:04 -0500

I agree - all the trains on the A/C/E line are absolutely disgusting. When are those suckers getting replaced?? I always thought the trains on the N/Q/R/W were absolutely fine - never understood why those got switched out so quickly.

Steven

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:57:20 -0500

The E is running the oldest trains in the system! if Anything the E should be replace before the F.

paolo mastrangelo

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:55:16 -0500

hmm...I wonder if those trains being paraded down the street early wed. morn during the street celebration in harlem after the election were the same ones?

thenebula

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:47:11 -0500

@11 The R160's have been spotted testing on the E too. Plans now are for the F to get a couple 160's to replace the few R32s they run and then E will probably get the bulk of the next option order.

rukii

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:40:08 -0500

@dgs2000 – I agree... noisy, filthy, dim, graffiti-tastic. And the air conditioning doesn't work half the time in the summer. The only reason I can think of as to why they're replacing the "F" first is that those trains were particularly problematic, at least in the beginning. I've heard reports of new test trains on the E line, but I take the E/C every day and I've never seen any.

Kojak

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:31:48 -0500

There are hipsters, but mostly Yuppies.

dgs2000

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:56:31 -0500

I don't get it- why does the "F" get new cars and the "E" continues to run those decrepit old dinosaurs?

99centmenu

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:55:51 -0500

I've also seen new trains come through on the G line before. nothing ever came of that, either.

dooWOP

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:55:27 -0500

These new trains are strictly utilitarian in design - clinical, uninviting and even the lighting is unflattering. Remember to powder up ladies before boarding. With that said I much prefer the old F trains with the "tacky" orange decor and all - and who doesn't prefer the wider body and seating arrangement...?

HUGO_MEGO

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:46:18 -0500

So when is the fare going up to $4.50?

melanarchy

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:43:26 -0500

@Pharmer N serves Astoria and Sunset Park.

Pharmer

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:36:16 -0500

Theres hipsters on the N?

bluerain

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:29:24 -0500

We here in East New York have been enjoying the new R160 subway cars on the J,M and Z lines for about six months. Sometimes you hipsters are *so* behind the times.

r1b2

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:26:52 -0500

It's not so much the age of the train that bothers me as much as the infrequency. The F is the line that time forgot. All the time wasted waiting for the F at B'way/ Lafayette or Jay Street so I can go home...

mtauser

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:25:22 -0500

But was it the same train as before or a new delivery? If its new delivery then it looks like they could be put on soon and be junking those R32's which are really bad.

Kojak

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:20:49 -0500

Bout time. can't let the Hipsters on the L & N have all the fun.

mtauser

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:16:19 -0500

Test train has been spotted for awhile on the (F) and is nothing new. It could be the same train spotted before.