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Hey there fellow F train straphangers, good news is rolling into a station near you sometime soon. Control Geek has a report from this morning: "I was waiting for the F subway at 15th Street/Prospect Park Brooklyn this morning and a brand new train came in! Apparently they were testing it, it had the automated announcements and everything. To keep people from boarding, they were opening the doors on the wrong side." Lost City also spotted the test trains (and their "folding, Paris-Metro-like seats") a few weeks ago. Now that the F has caught up and ditched the yellow, orange and brown color scheme...is it time to work on the seatless subways of the future?
New F Trains on the Way!
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Test train has been spotted for awhile on the (F) and is nothing new.
It could be the same train spotted before.
Bout time. can't let the Hipsters on the L & N have all the fun.
But was it the same train as before or a new delivery?
If its new delivery then it looks like they could be put on soon and be junking those R32's which are really bad.
It's not so much the age of the train that bothers me as much as the infrequency. The F is the line that time forgot. All the time wasted waiting for the F at B'way/ Lafayette or Jay Street so I can go home...
We here in East New York have been enjoying the new R160 subway cars on the J,M and Z lines for about six months. Sometimes you hipsters are *so* behind the times.
Theres hipsters on the N?
@Pharmer N serves Astoria and Sunset Park.
So when is the fare going up to $4.50?
I've also seen new trains come through on the G line before. nothing ever came of that, either.
I don't get it- why does the "F" get new cars and the "E" continues to run those decrepit old dinosaurs?
There are hipsters, but mostly Yuppies.
@dgs2000 – I agree... noisy, filthy, dim, graffiti-tastic. And the air conditioning doesn't work half the time in the summer. The only reason I can think of as to why they're replacing the "F" first is that those trains were particularly problematic, at least in the beginning. I've heard reports of new test trains on the E line, but I take the E/C every day and I've never seen any.
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The R160's have been spotted testing on the E too. Plans now are for the F to get a couple 160's to replace the few R32s they run and then E will probably get the bulk of the next option order.
hmm...I wonder if those trains being paraded down the street early wed. morn during the street celebration in harlem after the election were the same ones?
The E is running the oldest trains in the system! if Anything the E should be replace before the F.
I agree - all the trains on the A/C/E line are absolutely disgusting. When are those suckers getting replaced?? I always thought the trains on the N/Q/R/W were absolutely fine - never understood why those got switched out so quickly.
I don't know, I like the E trains. Has an old school feel to it...especially when it runs express, you feel the bumps and turns along the way. Also, the old E and M trains were iceboxes in the summertime. Maybe it's just me? *shrug*
At 10AM this morning, they were testing these at the 57th street station.
YAY!
I wonder, are these newer as in the L/N line or newer as in the 6/5/4? Either way, good news!
I also have to agree with r1b2, today I had to wait about 15/20 minutes at Bway/lafayette and then when it got to 7th Av they announced they were skipping 15th St so I had to wait more over there.
Do not worry A/C/E riders, you'll get the orange trains of the F...
The new trains are so bright surgey could be performed inthem
What a shame - I live on the Q line, and the R160s have been terrible. The reduction to 44 seats per car from 70 means far more uncomfortable trains, longer wait times as people try to shove on board, and a nightmare for pregnant women and people with disabilities. Out in Flatbush and Midwood, I've heard of at least three community groups trying to lobby for the older trains, or more frequent R160s.
Chronically broken onboard automated maps and announcements aside, they also seem to break down way more often the older cars - there have been malfunction-related delays during the 8am-9am morning rush hour at least once a week since they were introduced a few months ago.
Forget shiny new trains. Lets get MORE FREQUENT trains for the F line. Why do I have to stand at Jay Street for 10-15 minutes waiting for one F train while five or six A & C trains go by. Then the F platform fills up and I can't even get on the already crowded train.
Or maybe it will go express from 7th Avenue to Church Avenue and i'll have to get off anyway to wait for the next train because I get off on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy
And what's up with those "Due to an earlier incident, F trains are running but the next train is at Broadway Lafayette 7 minutes away"
One more rant before I go:
My A train pulls into Jay Street and there is an F already in the station. The conductor clearly sees this train pull in but closes the doors just as I'm about to get off which makes me miss it by 8 seconds. Now I have to wait 10 minutes for the next one (see above rant)
Thanks