Gothamist: Drugged Teen Driver Hits Couple in Fatal LI Accident

rdsizzle

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:16:40 -0500

Britt - every comment you post makes you look more and more like a bonehead. "I hate fucking joggers" what are you some fat piece of shit from Texas??? The road is for everyone: drivers, bicycles, motorcycles, scooters, public transit, joggers and emergency vehicles. You need to be attentive when you drive and thats that.... This kid had pills in his sock, was smoking weed and drunk; when youre stacked like that, its a lifestyle not a "one time in his life" and he had 4 accidents. He killed a teacher and you are on here blaming this teacher for leading a healthy lifestyle. (I hate fucking joggers) Anyways, you probably consider yourself the maverick of this message board for defending a drunk and stonned driver who killed a teacher...Way to go pal... The one point which i will agree to is that it has nothing to do wiht social class and shouldent be brought into the argument.

danisaint

Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:49:55 -0500

First I would like to give my deepest sympathy for Amanda's family. There are a few things that I would like to say. 1) No one should defend the driver, HE got loaded, HE got in the car, HE drove, HE hit these people. END OF STORY 2) Clearly this man shouldn't have been driving if this was his 4th accident in a year. This is probably the fault of police and law officials in his town, for not taking away his license. 3) Who cares how much $ his family has! IT won't bring Amanda back or undo what this guy did. ***I come from a family with lots of money, and it didn't help my brother out when he got arrested for Heroin possesion. My parents let him sit in jail for three weeks as a lesson before they bailed his ass out. He ended up with 6 months in jail since it was his first offense (no 'walk' for the rich kid). He is now clean and sober thanks to rehab and a family that loves him* 4) All you people on here arguing about who was in the wrong (the driver, the joggers) are idiots. A woman died, a man was severly injured and another man sits in jail. Seems pretty straight-forward to me. 5) Saying things like 'We all know people who have gotten behind the wheel under the influence' DOES NOT MAKE IT OK!!!!! Driving under the influence is AGAINST THE LAW!!!! If this guy goes to jail or not, will be up to a judge and jury, not people who comment online. If he doesn't go to jail (which would be surprising), then he needs to go to treatment because he clearly has a drug problem. Hopefully this will serve as a lesson to anyone who thinks about driving under the influence. again.

thelexiphane

Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:27:03 -0500

To the person defending the driver and those who don't like her, under whatever screen name, here's some quick moral math: Woman adds to kids' lives by being a teacher = + Stupid idiot kills her = minus Stupid idiot hopefully spends the rest of his life in jail = + for everyone, - for his family and him Sum total = net negative for everyone involved; let's not try to minimize tragedy out of sympathy for the perp's family. The kid's stupid and a piece of shit murderer. If he was serving in Iraq executing civilians (which I think would be a rare occurrence) people would want his head on a pike, and rightfully so. 19-year-olds are stupid, but maybe they wouldn't be if we stopped assuring them we'd hold them to that level of accountability.

jterry121

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:10:49 -0500

hello1234 = Britt77's new screen name A man is judged by his actions- this man is a WORTHLESS drunk driving MURDERER who is a drain on Society, and deserves LIFE in Prison MINIMUM

hello1234

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:20:08 -0500

OK that is a problem consdiering this happned before.. but he wasnt intoxicated those times, he just made mistakes.. im not defending him although it may look that way.. but you don't know this guy.. you don't know anything about him besdiesfor what you read in the news, which everyone knows can be compltely off, and i can honestly say if you knew this guy, you would see this situation from a whole other perspective, and his family is probably going through so much because of it and its really no one besides the victims family and his family to even discuss becuase you don;t know this guy.. yeah, maybe he is an asshole, that is possible.. but you dont know that ors ure..

Rocknrope

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:00:37 -0500

^ That's the problem "hello1234". Everyone makes mistakes. This asshole made three mistakes this year already before this one, one of which involved injuries. Clearly he didn't learn jack shit from the first three, and had to kill someone to "learn" something. The sad fact that no one has brought up yet is that this brat will probably get minimal jail time, since his rich, enabling parents will get him off with some high priced attorney. I bet he gets DUI and maybe Man 2, and gets 3-5, out in a year. I only hope that Saunders files a civil suit and takes his family for everything they're worth.

hello1234

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:43:18 -0500

what happend happend.. and no one can chnage that and it truely is a tradgedy that no words can describe.. when you know shea's family you cant help but feel sorry for what they are going through due to his careless actions. but EVERYONE makes mistakes.. and he just happned to make a mistake that will change the rest of his life.. but it oculd have been anyone else, and alot of ppeople do the same thign and get away with it. im not saying what he did was right, but there is no reason to say such harsh comments, juts leave it alone. And also, what does his facebook picture have anything to do wiht it, yo ucna look at a million peoples facebooks and find stupid pictures juts like that. and i dont thin kanything he did was right, but his economic status has abosltuely nothignt od o with it. his money? what would having less money effect hisa ctions, it juts makes no sence

hello1234

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:38:35 -0500

leave the girl alone.. she gave her opinion and you guys gave yours

Spiritof76

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:37:53 -0500

Give it up, Brit77. Other than you, there's not a single person here who's taking Rosen's side. No matter what you personally think, society at large knows him to be a selfish brat. Maybe you'll see that one day, but until then, you're not convincing anyone, especially if you think there's nothing wrong with cursing or flipping the bird at strangers. You have a lot more growing up to do, just like he does.

jterry121

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:24:03 -0500

Britt is either the 4 Accidents in 1 Year Drunk Driving MURDERER , or the 4 Accidents in 1 Year Drunk Driving MURDERER's MOM. Anyone who would be friends with this weed smoking drunk driving scum is likely weed smoking drunk driving scum themselves. LMFAO @ "Ruining the Drunk Drivers Family"- This man has no one who cares about him or depends on him, and is just a worthless criminal who has never benefitted society. His family was probably trying to kick him out of house . Hopefully he gets life in prison so he can get kicked out of the house permanently Either way, you are just as worthless as the Murderer- and the biggest evidence that you are a piece of shit is that in your lunatic rants, you dont mention the victim or the victims family once. The victims family is the one who will be burying their daughter, who got killed by a drunk driving murderer.

rasputinsghost

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:08:52 -0500

to quote you: 'THE ROAD IS FOR CARS, NOT PEOPLE! FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO JOG.' Hmm, that definitely doesn't have a condemnatory tone, no sir.

Britt77

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:08:39 -0500

I would never WISH that on someone's child. I only replied with harsh comments because of the harsh comments at the top of the post about chopping him up, or whatever they said. I really didn't mean for any of it to sound like it was Amanda's fault, because that's not at all what I think. There's no argument that he has ruined the lives of Amanda's family. He is in the wrong, and he is going to be punished. I just don't see why his facebook pictures and the town he is from have anything to do with it, and it's all people keep talking about. He has to live with himself for the rest of his life, so there's no need to keep talking about him as if he plotted to do this (even though getting in a car intoxicated is the most negligent thing a person can do). I feel horrible for all of Amanda's family and friends, but I also feel horrible for Shea's family, because his actions have ruined their lives too.

Tamtam

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:42:44 -0500

BRITT COMMENT: FIRST OFF, who CARES if he has a middle finger up in his facebook picture? I know plenty of kids who do that, and it says nothing about their character (especially a 19 year old boy). SECOND, I am from the same area, and every person I know has almost hit one of these joggers/bikers who think they own the road. THE ROAD IS FOR CARS, NOT PEOPLE! FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO JOG. True, nobody should drive under the influence, but this could very easily have happened to a sober person, and it's really unfortunate that this kid's life is over just because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Third, don't hate on rich people just because you're poor :) I'd like to see this happen to someone's child and see how they feel about it afterward. I hate those stupid joggers, and everyone from my town agrees. I cannot believe you have the audasity to write a comment like that Britt...i wish you were front of me so i could smack the crap out of your face! I was friends with Aamanda and you think that piece of shit shea was in the wrong placeat the wrong time?? No amanda was in the wrong place at the wrong time! how dare you sit there and say this piece of crap's lifeis over??!@# HER LIFE IS OVER!!!! not his!!! You hate joggers? and everyone fromy our toen agrees? what toen is it? Becauze i live in thatarea, and the road is so damn wide there that you would have to be all over the road to hot someone! And you sit there and have remorse for shea and say you wished that it would happen to someones kid...how about i wish it on you that your kid would be in amandas position! DEAD!!

NannyState

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:17:01 -0500

HUGO_MEGO says: "#11 SPIRITOF76, the Noble Peace Prize is a worthless piece of shit award that is given to neo-libs who have obeyed the party line." This from someone who couldn't win the prize in a Cracker Jack box.

smitty

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:08:56 -0500

This is the guy's fourth time driving under the influence. No sympathy for him is warrented.

Britt77

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:01:34 -0500

that's 'gangsta' to you? i call it a little bit of cursing. you're just jealous that you don't live on the beautiful long island, it's okay - you have every right to be miserable

emilydickinson

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:44:36 -0500

@Britt77 "nobody was talking to your herb ass so y don't you shut YOUR fucking trap and change ur gay-ass name while your at it." Hmmm.

Britt77

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:39:59 -0500

not my buddy, I just know of him, and AGAIN, nobody defended his actions. i'm not even from long island - i just moved here, so IDK wut fake LI 'gangsta' speech you're referring to, but I definitely don't need advice on how to go through life, son. My life is pretty damn amazing, actually!

Rocknrope

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:21:34 -0500

Ah Britt77, so the truth finally comes out...the stoned killer with three prior driving accidents this year alone is your pal, so we should all shed a tear for him? I think not.

emilydickinson

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:57:07 -0500

@Britt77 Your buddy is an irresponsible murderer plain and simple, and murderers don't deserve sympathy. A young woman is dead because he got stoned and killed her. Insulting people with fake LI 'gangsta' speech defending drunk drivers is no way to go through life son.

Britt77

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:21:39 -0500

jterry- if he was living off his parents he wouldnt bother bussing tables, moron. stop being so bitter about people who have money; the fact that his parents have more money than you'll ever see doesn't make him more of a piece of shit

Britt77

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:17:21 -0500

i know the kid, so i have a reason to be on here... y r u up on some website commenting on shit that doesnt concern you? nobody was talking to your herb ass so y don't you shut YOUR fucking trap and change ur gay-ass name while your at it.

Rocknrope

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:34:12 -0500

Britt77, we get it, you feel bad for the kid. Now STFU.

jterry121

Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:46:36 -0500

Britt - Hes not a kid- hes a 19 year old MAN who MURDERED a woman by CHOOSING to get high on Weed and Drive Drunk , even though he already had THREE ACCIDENTS that year ALREADY. This guy deserves no sympathy- & life in prison would be getting off easy for him. This guy was some worthless busboy living off his parents, and should suffer the consequences for MURDERING a woman.

HUGO_MEGO

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:43:08 -0500

#11 SPIRITOF76, the Noble Peace Prize is a worthless piece of shit award that is given to neo-libs who have obeyed the party line.

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:21:01 -0500

He's a young kid who royally fucked up and it sucks on BOTH sides! Yes, he should pay for it, but he's not Hitler!

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:19:13 -0500

rasputinsghost, my best friend was killed by a drunk driver, and i understand your sympathy being minimal. your sympathy is minimal because you don't know him, but if this was your child, then I don't think you would agree with quotes like "Put this cocksucker in a Wood Chipper and feed him to the rats"

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:37:11 -0500

NOBODY said the victims should have known better. All people are saying is that these roads are really dangerous and what happened is horrific, but I've seen it happen many times by the hands of a SOBER driver! Wider jogging/biking lanes should be made, and kids need to stop driving while intoxicated. Looking at it from the victim's family's perspective, I understand calling him a piece of shit. But can't anybody understand the fact that this boy's life is ruined? Yes, it is his own fault, but have a LITTLE compassion! I don't think the kid is sitting there saying "well, she deserved it", and nobody else is saying that either! I mean, I think everyone must know one person close to us who has been dumb enough to drive drunk, and we would all feel a little bad for them (especially if they were 19) if this happened to them. I know that in rambling on about him, it makes me sound like I'm defending his actions, but I'm not. I just saw all of these awful comments about him and I think its unnecessary to keep kicking this kid while he's down. He already has, and will continue to pay dearly for it, so just leave it alone.

rasputinsghost

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:22:45 -0500

'What happened is horrible but we all know plenty of kids who drive under the influence, and it's stupid, but it's also very sad that this boy will probably spend the rest of his life in jail because of a bad decision that most people have made in their life at least once.' I agree with whitecastlerock. The mere profligacy of people drunk driving does not excuse it; I have had family members killed by drunk drivers. My sympathy for him is minimal. Taking this asshole off the road and punishing him for his crime is the only way to prevent more people from being hurt. You reap what you sow.

whitecastlerock

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:13:18 -0500

I am calling this kid a piece of shit-why? he got fucked up, drove like an asshole and just killed two people. It is disgusting to read comments that infer the victims should have known better. Brookville must be a haven for enablers...

NannyState

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:10:25 -0500

Lately, it's getting pretty clear that you just don't want to be a 29 year old school teacher in LI.

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:02:59 -0500

I'm definitely not defending Brookville; I've only lived here for a short period of time. I'm defending this poor kid because for some reason, people who don't even know him have decided to spend time bashing him, when he's already beaten. His life is over, so is it really necessary to talk shit on him? How do you know anything about his lack of remorse? This could happen to anyone, and we've all made more than one bad decision. Spend all the time you want giving condolences to the woman's family, but leave the kid alone! He knows what he has done and I'm more than sure that he will spend the rest of his life regretting it.

Spiritof76

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:36:45 -0500

Sounds like you're just being defensive about Brookville. Nobody cares where it happened. It happened because of him, not because of the area. If the roads are so "tight" and "winding," what was he doing going fast enough to kill people? I doubt he made just one bad decision. He's probably been making these bad decisions about drugs and alcohol for years. This is just the first time it resulted in injury and death. And I doubt it will be the last, given his lack of remorse.

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:49:07 -0500

I would never condone drunk driving or driving under any influence. One of my own friends was killed by a drunk driver. I feel terribly for the victim and her family and friends. Their lives are ruined, and yes, it could have been prevented if the teen wasn't under the influence. All I am saying is that people should at least put themselves in the position of the kid's family. What happened is horrible but we all know plenty of kids who drive under the influence, and it's stupid, but it's also very sad that this boy will probably spend the rest of his life in jail because of a bad decision that most people have made in their life at least once. If I was the victim's parents, I would want to kill someone, but none of us are the victim's parents, so nobody here should be calling this kid a piece of shit. Oh, and I still think it's disgusting when people talk about how much money the kid has. It's not getting him off, it's probably going to influence the judge to make an example out of him. It's like everyone wants to see him suffer more because he comes from Brookville. That's repugnant to me, so I really don't feel bad about saying my previous condescending comment. And as for "demonizing the victim", why don't you read again, because I never did such a thing. I said that everyone around here agrees that jogging on these tight, winding roads is too dangerous. The situation is sad on both sides. Hopefully other teens will learn a lesson from this.

rasputinsghost

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:23:23 -0500

'THE ROAD IS FOR CARS, NOT PEOPLE! FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO JOG.' By the same token, couldn't you insist that people who want to get fucked up on various drugs should remain in their homes, or at least outside of cars? THE ROAD IS FOR DRIVERS WHO CAN DRIVE PROPERLY, NOT FOR HALF-DRUNK IDIOTS WHO COULD KILL SOMEONE. Oh well, it's the victims' fault, right? 'Third, don't hate on rich people just because you're poor :)' Condescending AND classist? Man, this with your impassioned demonization of the victim, you're two letters short of winning asshole Bingo. Further, merely because sober people could have killed them in another situation does not bear on the fact that in THIS situation, his diminished mental state rendered him more prone to causing such an accident. This defense doesn't work for DUI drivers in court, and nor should it work here. This is only emphasized by the fact THIS HAS HAPPENED THREE TIMES BEFORE. He should own up for his crimes and at the very least lose his license. Just for starters. So what EXACTLY is your standard for placing appropriate blame on the driver? Does he have to mow down two innocent people because they happened to be running on the side of the road? Evidently not. But wait - 'I'd like to see this happen to someone's child and see how they feel about it afterward.' I'm pretty sure the parents of the dead/injured have very high opinions of the drugged, reckless, piece of shit that ruined their lives.

drewo

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:20:54 -0500

Sounds like a sh*tty place to live. Or die.

Britt77

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:07:00 -0500

FIRST OFF, who CARES if he has a middle finger up in his facebook picture? I know plenty of kids who do that, and it says nothing about their character (especially a 19 year old boy). SECOND, I am from the same area, and every person I know has almost hit one of these joggers/bikers who think they own the road. THE ROAD IS FOR CARS, NOT PEOPLE! FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO JOG. True, nobody should drive under the influence, but this could very easily have happened to a sober person, and it's really unfortunate that this kid's life is over just because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Third, don't hate on rich people just because you're poor :) I'd like to see this happen to someone's child and see how they feel about it afterward. I hate those stupid joggers, and everyone from my town agrees.

Spiritof76

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:01:25 -0500

As stoned as this kid was, I doubt he would have seen Times Square, never mind some Scotchlite tape.

Bentley1

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:59:07 -0500

I'm not trying to defend this kid, but does anyone know if the joggers were wearing any reflective clothing? Jogging at night can be dangerous. It can be difficult to see pedestrians at night if there lighting is poor.

Spiritof76

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:58:54 -0500

Oops. That's rather than "than."

Spiritof76

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:57:38 -0500

Still bitter than Dubya, Tricky Dick Cheney or anybody else even remotely connected with that administration would never even be considered for a Nobel?

ides_of_march

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:45:15 -0500

7 "because getting hit by some stoned hippy in a prius is less fatal" True. If you get killed by a Prius, Al Gore, patron saint of globull warming, uses he messianic powers to bring you back from the dead.

thelexiphane

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:51:18 -0500

Runners should always stay on the left side of the road so they can see oncoming traffic and have a chance to dive out of the way of total wastes of oxygen like this POS.

HUGO_MEGO

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:44:02 -0500

The kid will do 1 or 2 years tops. He will get out of jail and then continue to party on like there is no tomorrow.

greatnhumble

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:03:17 -0500

Yeah, always an SUV, because getting hit by some stoned hippy in a prius is less fatal

Clarice City

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:46:25 -0500

Always an SUV involved....

pkreder

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:45:05 -0500

for what it's worth I hope the injured gets a chance to whoop this kids ass...

Spiritof76

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:01:13 -0500

The Post also notes that Rosen's Facebook photo features him giving the finger to the camera. A real winner, that one. But his money won't get him much influence in court or in life. If it could, he wouldn't be a busboy.

jterry121

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:36:22 -0500

Put this cocksucker in a Wood Chipper and feed him to the rats

Felix Hoenikker

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:07:03 -0500

1 I agree wholeheartedly. I'll also bet that this rich, white, non-gentile will get off somehow. That said, jogging at night isn't the brightest thing to do. You're betting heavily against physics, occasional drunks, and the more common cell-talkers or elderly.

ides_of_march

Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:58:51 -0500

Drunk drivers who kill people should be charged with murder. This pathetic piece of rat's excrement should be hung from the nearest lampost.