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Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin didn't rule out running in 2012 when asked about her future in politics earlier today. She said, "2012 sounds like years away. 2012 ... what will we be doing there, guys. Enrolling Trig in kindergarten and watching Willow get ready to go off to college. There are a lot of good things that will happen in 2012." And she told the town of Wasilla after her concession, "We're going to be just fine. It is a shining moment tonight in history. We do congratulate Barack Obama. It's a great night in history. But I'll tell ya, Wasilla - and everybody there in Alaska - I am just proud to be able to represent Wasilla. I am neither bitter nor vanquished, but very confident in the knowledge that there will be another day. "
But first, some bad things for Palin in 2008. Yesterday, Newsweek teased details in its special Election issue (on stands today) about the tensions between the McCain and Palin camps. For instance, Shoppinggate: McCain adviser Nicole Walls was "told ...to buy [Palin] three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus." Sources say that not only was the wealthy donor who bought the clothes "shocked when he got the bill," apparently "Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards." An "angry aide" told Newsweek the Palins were "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast."
And then Fox News reporter Carl Cameron spills his off-the-record (until now) guts on how Palin allegedly didn't know that Africa was a continent, didn't know the countries in North America, and basic civics. She refused help before her interview with Katie Couric and also, too, she could be really mean.
Palin heads back to Alaska to continue serving her first term as governor. Asked by reporters gathered for her homecoming about the allegations, she said, "If they’re an unnamed source, then that says it all. I won’t comment on anybody’s gossip, or allegations that are based on anonymous sources. That’s kind of a small, evidently bitter type of person who would anonymously charge something foolish like that, that I perhaps didn’t know an answer to a question.” And check out the video of Palin saying how she's disappointed in the media.
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Africa is a country? Where did she go to school?
It's an absolute joke that anyone ever thought she was ready to be VP.
Stay in Alaska please..
She better run in 2012... I'd hate to think the Republicans actually field someone worth a damn.
Ron Paul!
"...didn't know the countries in North America..."
He didn't say that. He said she didn't know what countries were in NAFTA.
To have any chance in running she needs to move her views more towards the middle. If she doesn't she has absolutely no chance of winning or getting the nomination.
so glad she has become ( more of) a laughing stock even within her own party. good luck in 012 you dumb twat, you're gonna need it.
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Has she given the clothes to charity yet?!
Yes, listening to unnamed sources IS a bad idea - that's exactly what I told Woodward and Bernstein.
Just rename this website and be done with it.
MOOSE TEARS
Rocknrope, I met a Princeton graduate who had no idea what the Berlin Airlift was. I started to think it was me. I was like, "You know, 1948? Soviets cut off road and rail access from West Germany to West Berlin? Allied countries flew planes filled with supplies around the clock into the city?"
Just saying, Palin might be an idiot but assuming that the brand name of a school conveys automatic intelligence or knowledge is a dangerous game. All it says is that you did well in high school. How many Ivy Leaguers did it take to collapse Wall Street? Does Harvard Business School teach that it is a good idea to leverage your company 35 to 1 or is it implied and left up to the student to figure out for themselves?
I think the more important takeaway from Rocknrope's post was that she went to five colleges to get a four year degree.
Fair and balanced only after they've lost.
"Palin allegedly didn't know that Africa was a continent"??
O C'mon, As much as I dislike Gov. Palin, that can't possibly be true...
Can it?
I'm so tired of folks saying she's not getting a fair shake, that she was a serious candidate. She's under-educated and under-experienced and she's simply not a candidate.
@S.D. Yes, it can. I mean, I've run across plenty of people just like her, who think Africa is a country and not a continent. And many have college degrees.
Sources say that not only was the wealthy donor who bought the clothes "shocked when he got the bill," apparently "Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards."
She was doing what every good republican does, to spend without care.
On another note, she will never be heard of again. McCain made a massive mistake (which he will never admit) by choosing her—in the next few weeks/months he will be distancing himself from her as much as possible. In fact at his Arizona speech the other night she was hidden behind the podium teleprompter.
I'm still not sure why he picked her, I thought Lieberman or Romney were much better candidates—Palin was the final nail in the coffin.
She won't have her looks in 8 years. Not a shot in hell.
edEx,
It's my understanding (based on some magazine articles) that McCain himself did NOT pick Sarah Palin. He wanted Lieberman, but the Republicans in charge wanted Palin.
I'm almost sure he didn't want to pick her, but he was forced by his conservative people. They wanted an ultra conservative person on the ticket.
The republicans also though if they had a women candidate the Clinton supporters will vote for them. The Clinton supports were liberal women, so now the liberals are voting for a conservative women?
The plan really backfire because I doubt any Clinton supporters voted Republican.
Meanwhile Medvedev (pronounced: Putin) is threatening to put missiles at the Polish border. But let's keep dwelling on Palin.
Uh, didn't our fine president refer to "the country of Africa" in one of his speeches?
And compared to one previous Republican VP who comes to mind, she was definitely qualified. Potatoe.
Can you imagine the howls of protest we would have heard (from both sides) if Obama had a running mate that went on a $150k shopping spree, had an unwed pregnant teenage daughter, didn't know the role of the VP, and thought Africa was a country?
If the GOP is going to act this stupid they deserve what they got on Nov 4th.
You can take white trash to Neiman Marcus but it's still white trash.
Her supporters were much more frightening than she was. To take pride in ignorance is, well, ignorant.
If JMc had chosen someone else (Jindal, perhaps), it might have been a closer race instead of the blowout it was.
@edEx, Vanessa & Steven:
yes, it was widely reported that mccain had other preferences.
of course the repubs feared lieberman and romney, a jew and a mormon. so many republicans would not have voted at all especially for lieberman.
But let's keep dwelling on Palin.
Time to move on...
#13 got it.
And EastRiver, not knowing a very specific 1948 action in post-WWII occupied Germany is a tad different than knowing basic geography.
@EastRiver - you're missing the point. It's just that Palin is an imbecile. It's that she was one party's nomination for Vice President of this country. It's one thing if some random college grad doesn't know their history or geography. It's different when it's someone running for the second highest office. That is absolutely inexcusable. Would you feel comfortable if your doctor didn't know where your heart was located?
oh c'mon, you mean she didn't know Africa is sometimes referred to as the Dark Continent?
I can't believe these kind of things remained "off the record" until after the election. Holy crap we dodged a bullet. The Republican party needs to take a long, hard look at how much they are willing to sacrifice in order to get the religious vote.
I miss her already.
Know what'd be really funny? If McCain dies of old age sometime within the next four years. That's when we'll have really dodged a bullet.
edEx: Actually, based on McCain's history, he will likely admit it. After he lost in 2000, he did an apology tour and tried to correct his mistakes from that campaign (like defending the Confederate flag flying over the SC Statehouse).
The problem is that not only Pallin doesnt know that Africa is a continent and what countries there are in the NAFTA, the problem is that SO MANY americans doesnt know it. Thats a big problem.
come to think of it, wasn't the Dark Continent some kind of theme park? maybe a trip to It's a Small World and Epcot would help?
Rob: I dunno if I would describe that as funny... but I see what you mean.
33
*shudder*
Man, it would be GREAT to see McCain go on the Apology Tour '09, and return to his straight talkin' ways. If anything, he really has nothing to lose now.
The McCain of this campaign was not the McCain that cracked me up when he was on Tim Russert's MTP. I'm sure plenty of people, including himself, want to see that guy back.
Hmm... how many countries are in North America? Tough question that one...
Palin embodies all the is wrong with republicans: barely educated, inconsiderate reckless socially unconscious greedy, nationalistic, 100% superficial regarding ethics, religious fanatic cynical, mistrusting science, Unilateral belligerent, unlimited power ambition to impose values of 2 centuries ago: how is that progress?
How is it possible that republicans measure their leader for how much they "look" amicable, or how good their humor is IN SPITE OF the amazing displays of lack of education and also ignoring the result of BAD POLICIES nationally and internationally!
HOW IS THAT LEADERSHIP of a world level country?
Feeling sorry for somebody or identifying with somebody for the shortcomings? What a shame!
POINT OF SALE politics, THAT is Palin.
Palin has barely undergrad education, that is the minimum nowadays, as in not good enough.
And it is obvious she barely knows anything except small town proselytism...COME FUCKING-ON! She is fine for a smalls secessionist town in the middle of nowhere!
But expect to rule the USA?
That's plainly RECKLESS!
That level of inconsequence and bad judgement on the part of republicans is what would never be able to understand...supporting the Moron of Bush? and Now Palin?
I can't even begin to believe that the McCain camp can blame Palin cause guess what? if it's palin's fault it's the McCain camp' fault cause they picked her ass. it's called vetting people.
@EastRiver - you're missing the point. It's just that Palin is an imbecile.
I think I covered that in my post at #12. Thanks for paying attention.
Meanwhile Barack Obama is receiving his first in depth intelligence briefing today.
Goodbye and good luck, Palin.... the adults will be back in charge in 76 days.
the fact of the matter is this. there wasn't a single respectable republican that would have ran for president this year. after the horror show of the past 8 years, it would have meant certain doom for his or her political career. this was mccain's last shot so that's why he ran. a guy like jindal has a fantastic future in the GOP but he would have killed it to go national this year.
how shallow #41 is to hate half the population cause they feel differently then you. your attitude makes me sick. about half the left and half the right are disgusting individuals.
oh and ps. thank god this lady is nowhere near the president.
although i really want to sleep with her, this story has nothing to do with nyc
#47- really? i kinda only wanted her to suck me off. I really don't think she has a good body and her ladygarden is probably the size of a pizza slice.
She will now become a footnote. She'll stay in Alaska and I can't think of a more just fate.
"her ladygarden is probably the size of a pizza slice."
Republican chicks are a smooth bunch in my experience. They also love implants.
How is she even governor of Alaska? A gangbang with the editors-in-chiefs of Alaska TV station?
Town mayor is all she can be trusted with. I'm shocked people didn't vote for McCain because of her. Many people vote by which candidate is more attractive since they have no brains.
"...her ladygarden is probably the size of a pizza slice."
I'll admit that I lol'd at this.
the fact of the matter is this. there wasn't a single respectable republican that would have ran for president this year. after the horror show of the past 8 years, it would have meant certain doom for his or her political career. this was mccain's last shot so that's why he ran.
I'm sure all these people would be surprised to know that they're not respectable.
If Palin is so quick to dismiss unnamed sources, why won't she address Carl Cameron and Nicole Walls' allegations? Face it, she's the laughingstock of the lower 48 (and Hawaii).
Africa isn't a country. It's a state of mind. Look at all the people who call themselves "African-Americans" even though none of their families have set foot in Africa in generations.
Where's Hugomego?
yeah, that's what I thought.
Good riddance, Barracuda!
Hmm... how many countries are in North America? Tough question that one...
Actually, it is. Do you know? The answer isn't even close to 3. And even if you are discounting Central American countries as part of North America, you'd probably forgot Greenland.
Now NAFTA is quite easy.
... Greenland being province of Denmark, of course.
But just remember this gaffe from one of our previous VPs.
"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."
Future talk show host
yeah probably
She will never have any real power though
While she may resemble Bush in her act to the public
the biggest difference between the two is that she comes from nowhere, while Bush was the little price from the aristocracy.
She will never get enough money/people behind her to gain any real power
The farthest she would go is a run like Huckabee in a primary, thats about it.
Look at all the people who call themselves "African-Americans" even though none of their families have set foot in Africa in generations.
A person's cultural heritage has little to do with the stamps on their passport.
at 53. i sure hope the republicans don't think their future lies with any of these guys on your list here. i mean, think of the clowns on your list that the republicans threw out there. huckabee, rudy, brownback, palin, fred thompson. it was a joke. the future star jindal sat on the sideline cause he knows that the nation is pissed at his party. all the future stars of the party sat on the sidelines.
this is the feeling of someone who can't stand the leftist crap that obama has thrown out there. if this if the future of the republicans then the right is screwed.
we need a new wave of republicans to balance out the left. too much power on either side is bad news. and none of the clowns that ran for president has a future in my republican party.
lol @ comments 47 and 48
"the fact of the matter is this. there wasn't a single respectable republican that would have ran for president this year. after the horror show of the past 8 years, it would have meant certain doom for his or her political career. this was mccain's last shot so that's why he ran."
And who's fault is that? ...is that difficult to see?
Implosion due to the party's home grown stupidity!
That is what should disgust republicans: its marshmellow leaders...but yeah blame it in those looking the mess Republicans are in from the outside.
i feel sorry for the wildlife in Alaska, this bitch is out for blood.
@36 Maybe you're thinking of Busch Gardens in Tampa, Fla!
The Dark Continent used to be how they marketed it... but I think at some point they decided that wasn't too PC.
It is essentially of a mix between Duff Gardens, Epcot (just Africa-centric themed areas though) and a zoo (with mostly safari-esque animals).
But why is it that she makes me SO FUCKING HORNY?
Gotta hand it to ya, MFer, you had me goin' for a minute with the Greenland thing.
I was surprised that some sources not only included central america with north america (if it were the same thing why the different names?), but also some included little crime ridden terrorist stop-offs like Antigua as well!
A person's cultural heritage has little to do with the stamps on their passport.
What cultural heritage? I remember listening a little while back to an older African immigrant upbraiding some so-called African-American teens and young adults. He said something like, "I am African. You are not African." He asked what they knew of their heritage. What came back was almost total ignorance. They couldn't name more than a couple of African nations. They knew nothing of African traditions or languages. They thought Africa was some sort of monolithic entity, unfractured by nationalism or tribalism. Their only real "cultural heritage" was hip hop. Tell me why so many people whose families have been in the US for three or more generations are just plain Americans, not British-Americans, Irish-Americans, Swedish-Americans, Spanish-Americans, French-Americans, etc., but that label is unsatisfactory for African-Americans.
The election is over but the neo-libs can't get enough of the Palin hating. It's an absolute disgrace. The media, Hollywood and the cult of Obama will not be happy until she's crucified.
#66
African American is in deed a cultural identity.
Even-though it is not referred to a very strict parameters other than perhaps what others perceive on that identify, it DOES exist as an identity.
Norwegians feel they don't have such strong identity...but that doesn't mean they don't have one. It is all relative to what you compare it to.
Identities(racial, gender, sexual, age) are constructs that the person elaborates with infinitum elements...I don't think YOU not having participated in that collection of elements (A LIFETIME) for a given person can evaluate weather the identity in deed exists or not.
How many "irish" now all the towns of Ireland to assume they are the real deal?
How many white people assimilate to other cultures and even call themselves whatever...
Your argument seems to be making quite loose assumptions from such complicated matter.
The election is over but the neo-libs can't get enough of the Palin hating. It's an absolute disgrace. The media, Hollywood and the cult of Obama will not be happy until she's crucified.
Do you have any idea what "neo" means? None of us are "neo" anything. We've been what we've been all along. You're much more likely to be a neocon. I'm sure you would have been so much more gracious in victory. Admit it, you would have been ten times more obnoxious than anyone has been here if Obama had lost.
African American is in deed a cultural identity.
Even-though it is not referred to a very strict parameters other than perhaps what others perceive on that identify, it DOES exist as an identity.
Some identity, considering how prevalent black-on-black crime and violence is. As for the rest of your post, I'm sorry, but I can't make heads nor tails of much of your writing.
Tell me why so many people whose families have been in the US for three or more generations are just plain Americans, not British-Americans, Irish-Americans, Swedish-Americans, Spanish-Americans, French-Americans, etc., but that label is unsatisfactory for African-Americans.
Sigh, spoken like a true Anglo. I know many Asian Americans, Hispanic/Latino Americans, and even Irish Americans who would disagree with you.
Wow. Now who's making stupid assumptions here? Anglo, eh? And I notice you are unwilling and/or unable to address my point about the near-total ignorance of the African culture they supposedly identify with.
^ Shouldn't we all know who the leaders of Burkina Faso and Dahomey are?
@71 - Unwilling, because its an assumption you make based wholly not on fact, but on your limited purview. Additionally, it's insulting to have to "justify" connection to any culture to a person who is not also a member of it. "Are they african enough for ya?" Rude.