Gothamist: Don't Ask Martha Stewart's Daughter to Dogsit for You, Ever

Mr Mel

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:16:07 -0500

"...in Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America and Targeting Guns, Kleck reports that firearms are used defensively 2.5 millions times per year, dwarfing offensive uses by criminals. Kleck says that 25 to 75 lives are saved by guns for every life lost by a gun. The medical costs saved by the defensive use of guns are 15 times greater than the costs caused by criminal use of firearms" Who is Kleck? If , as he says, 25 to 75 lives are saved by defensive use of guns, they are fired by law enforcement officers. The statistic sounds wrong. I'll bet more people are killed by guns used in rage than any John Wayne scenario.

Quidnam

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:33:34 -0500

cucarachita, you're embracing the fallacy that guns are not being obtained illegally all the time. Do you really prefer living in an environment in which the only civilians who are armed are the criminals? We should encourage licensing of firearms and safety training for owners. NYPD laws are so restrictive that they effectively criminalize the ownership of firearms when we would all be better off with an above-board, regulated market. Just as with legalization of drugs, it's about embracing a policy that would do the least harm. You can't argue "then anyone could get a gun," because right now, *anyone can get a gun.*

NannyState

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:37:25 -0500

I keep an extra magazine or two with me if Donald Trump starts shit with me, and I got a throwdown in my boot in case Alexis Stewart is with him.

TSOL

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:22:13 -0500

The Post is vying with the NYTimes for the ceremonial title of Pravda for Moscow-on-the-Hudson...

sartre_is_for_lovers

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:43:52 -0500

ummm. yeh. i think that is all.

cucarachita

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:29:09 -0500

I have a friend who owns a gun. He's a nice guy, but we've been scared of him snapping one day all our lives. When we heard he got a gun, we were all like, yep: this is the kind of guy who wants a gun. Why are we not surprised? So, how do you stop nutjobs from getting guns, if the only time they prove they're nuts is the day they come and kill every member of your family at Thanksgiving because of something someone said (or not)? THAT is why civilians shouldn't have guns. Nobody buys a gun and says, BTW, I'm nuts, or I have potential to snap one day even though I seem alright to you now.

Scout1

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:21:04 -0500

It's amazing how many problems education can solve...

Fritzdecat

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:51:29 -0500

I'm not for gun control but I am for Firearms education. Back in the day when I went to get a hunting license to kill Bambi , I had to take a Hunter Safety course and pass an exam. Anyone that owns a gun should have to take this test, actually in a sane world it would be a mandatory class in high school for all pupils. Shit will still happen but education of this sort does not hurt.

supernova

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:33:41 -0500

Owning a gun becomes dangerous when the owner doesn't know what they are doing (do not get properly trained), bought them for all the wrong reasons (to impress people, brandish it everywhere...) or it's not psychologically stable to make a conscious decision as to when using a gun is needed. My dad, a business owner, has had a gun for almost 20 years and has never shot anyone. Thank goodness.

Ronkonkoma Ondinnonk

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:54:38 -0500

I'm reminded of the Spy article long ago about Martha Stewart euthanizing newly-hatched chicks by running over them with her Mercedes. She claims it never happened. Who knows. http://nymag.com/news/media/48253/index3.html

Scout1

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:49:44 -0500

Mr. Mel, that's an awful lot of assumptions. What do you mean that's all we're missing here? Isn't the fact that these people own guns and are law-abiding people completely prove "that's what we're missing here". It's missing 99% of the time. ...in Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America and Targeting Guns, Kleck reports that firearms are used defensively 2.5 millions times per year, dwarfing offensive uses by criminals. Kleck says that 25 to 75 lives are saved by guns for every life lost by a gun. The medical costs saved by the defensive use of guns are 15 times greater than the costs caused by criminal use of firearms

Rascoe

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:36:30 -0500

Was this inspired after she saw a screening of I Am Legend?

Mr Mel

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:21:40 -0500

"That is one of the most ignorant anti-gun ramblings I ever heard." Hear it again, assuming you own a gun, if you use it in anger, you'll shoot someone you know. That's all we're missing here, Hillbillies.

JacqueMehoff

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:17:27 -0500

How do I get access to that list since it is public record. in some places they would print the names in the local paper.

Gothamist_Cynic

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:17:26 -0500

she looks like a female version of matt damon. scary..

Amanda Harlech

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:08:39 -0500

Some people buy guns to protect themslfs form crime, for others is all about who is in power. Gun ownership rights depart form they assumption that the government and other groups are against you, and will hunt you down. In any other country the assumption is laughable but in the USA plots against " individual freedom"(read guns in gun crazy language) are born everyday. the "fighters of freedom" had their first law of freedom broken in pieces just our t of the same principles: LAISSEZ FAIRE DID NOT WORK. Total freedom means total anarchy,then add to that guns and you have libertarian heaven.

Tar_Baby

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:08:31 -0500

This bitch is crazy.

Amanda Harlech

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:59:28 -0500

lovely mother!

Novanglus

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:28:36 -0500

That is one of the most ignorant anti-gun ramblings I ever heard. It's also not 1970 anymore, dumbass.

Mr Mel

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:12:04 -0500

The odds are, that if one of those people had to use their gun in whatever situation, they would shoot someone they know. I's nuts to own a gun. I was in a retail business in Manhattan for thirty something years starting in the 1970s. There were some lawless times in the city. I was called on regularly by retired NYPD people in the business of obtaining pistol permits. Every once in a while I would consider it. A detective I knew said don't do it. It's an invitation to be killed. If some jerk knew there was a weapon on the person or the premises and wanted something bad enough, he'd shoot you first and then take what he wanted.

supernova

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:07:09 -0500

whoa, what a compassionate human being... I guess homeless people should stir clear of asking her for food (or any other help) as she may find it completely logical to shoot them, seeing that we are all going to die anyway