Gothamist: City Spending Too Much on Subs, Report Says

eyekantspel

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:29:57 -0500

Funny how they complain about the pay rate of teachers, but they don't bitch about the pay rate of other professionals. uh, that's because they're friggin teachers. Some of these fakes make 6 figure salaries scamming the system. Paid for with taxes and they can't get fired because of the unions. I'm not feeling sorry for ANYONE with that kind of job security. Too many of them aren't teaching because they care about kids, they are doing it because they thought it would be easy and they get summers off. A couple of years of bright-eyed enthusiasm until they get the lesson plan down, and then it's coast until retirement with pensions and heath benefits. Screw the teachers. I feel more sympathy for nurses.

Barbj8

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:31:13 -0500

Funny how they complain about the pay rate of teachers, but they don't bitch about the pay rate of other professionals. You'd think that bitching about someone who is in charge of your kids all day is like complaining to a waiter and trusting that he won't spit in your food! Lock your bedroom doors--you have no idea what I'm teaching your children! Mwahaha!

WestVillageVintage

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:55:59 -0500

Why is the city still recruiting "teaching fellows" and footing their college bill if has an excess of teachers? Teachers traded seniority rights in their last contract. For what? The DOE changed their funding format so that now teacher salaries come right out of the school budget. Doesn't take much to figure out that the new teachers are making half of what a somewhat seasoned teacher is making. #1, values hehe is right. Those who are in the sub pool simply cost too much.

Capt Kirk

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:44:23 -0500

Subs deserve their pay. They get shat on regardless of where they're teaching. To children its like a free do whatever you want day.

Rfive

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:42:57 -0500

I hope you are out of education and back to pumping gas dimshine.

dimshine

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:30:35 -0500

i subbed in shit-town brooklyn for like 6 months, worst time of my life. an exercise in futility that made me think the only solution to the warehousing system that is the NY public schools would be to militarize every school. those low-income kids are joining the military anyway (from what they told me), why not get them some discipline ahead of Basic? bad times.

Toby von Meistersinger

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:54:25 -0500

Part of the problem with the whole public education system is the teachers unions.

values_hehe

Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:43:12 -0500

I'm a new teacher in the Teaching Fellows program. I still haven't found a job since I started training this summer, and 225 other Fellows haven't either this year, most likely because I have a master's, which requires me to be paid more. Many of the others in the Reserve are older and would have to be paid more. Instead, we are spending our days subbing classes, which is no fun because you have no authority and are gaining no experience actually teaching, or teaching a class or two that are entirely out of our certification. The schools see us as free help, and many Fellows have problems with their schools not even letting them leave to go on interviews. Teachers in the Reserve are not there because they're incompetent or not looking for jobs. It's because they're too expensive, plain and simple.