September 19, 2008
Woman Turns Tables on Upskirt Perv!
One morning in August, an unidentified 28-year-old woman who caught a man taking cellphone photos up her skirt as she climbed the subway stairs decided to retaliate. “Since he is taking pictures of me, I am going to take pictures of him,” she tells the Times. She followed him onto the 1 train and told him to smile as she took his picture, because she intended to call the police. Fast-forward to Tuesday, when an NYPD officer approached a man matching the photograph. It was one Aaron Olivieri, age 36. He told the cop, “I hope I am not the person you are looking for,” and then admitted he knew why police were looking for him. He was arraigned Wednesday on misdemeanor charges of unlawful surveillance, attempted sexual abuse and harassment. The Times article also gives a shout-out to Holla Back, a blog where women share their horrible experiences with perverted men in New York, a city that seems to be crawling with 'em.
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attempted sexual abuse? that's a ridiculous charge.
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when will these pervs learn just to keep the picture in their mind of exhibitionist skank-slut-whores? I can still visualize the summer of 1998 when this blonde in a micro and stockings bent over to make sure her heels were on tight so she could attend a socially climbing event. It was just me and this UPS guy tilting our heads and going "Goddamn!". We shared a guy moment and then went about our daily business. That's how you should do it. Phone pics are a no no.
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i hope they nail the dude who downtown *shudders* m-bates under his sweat pants - he's ALL over Holla Back Girl - while leering at you.
Nice job Holla Back. There are so many pervs out there - in my 10 years here I have been molested many times... once in broad daylight on my street.
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I was walking up the stairs at the Broadway-Lafayette station and noticed this guy who seemed to be falling up. It turned out he was trying to look up women's skirts as they walked up the stairs.
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Why would anyone do that? The site ain't that great. And why would anyone photograph that site? Perhaps to pass on to his grandchildren?
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Snoopy, you are kind of a moron. And obviously not a woman. Open your eyes and your ears--at least once a day on my way to/from work I see a woman getting felt up by/verbally abused by/leered at by a man. I, myself, have gotten countless comments, touches, grabs, etc. It is nice to have a site that is an outlet for our frustrations--a way to publicly humiliate someone that humiliated the victim. I hope his grandchildren do see it, they will know grandpa is a perve and that they shouldn't sit on his lap, lest they risk having pops pop a hard on. I love HollaBack!
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In his defense, he was probably just trying to snap the "photo of the day" for Gothamist.
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Snoopy needs a better command of the English language. He obviously meant "sight", not "site". NYC public schools win again.
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you go, girl!!!!
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Whats wrong with checking out an attractive girl on the subway? I can understand why girls wouldn't want to be molested or harassed but whats wrong with appreciating beauty?
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Appreciate quietly. Don't leer. Don't stare. Don't make crass remarks. And definitely don't photograph lewdly without permission.
Careful, Blackie. If you get on Snoopy's bad side, he'll stalk you here on Gothamist.
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You know, I never realized just how violating train and subway harrassment is until it happened to me. I was sure some guy was rubbing up on me in a packed train car but there was no way to *really* be sure. Trust me if I had a better case I would have slugged him. Chicks can't really do that.
Holla back, girls!
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I will stare all i want. Nobody can tell me where i can and can't look. Besides, girls stare at guys just as much as guys stare at girls.
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City should commission some artists to install privacy screens on the staircases.
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In twenty years, The 20-something women on hollaback are going to be the same 40-somethings who whine about being "invisible" to men.
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Staring is one thing. Taking pictures, violating personal space and groping is quite another. Hopefully holla back knows when it is ok to retaliate and when it isn't.
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Wow...The Aristocrat NAILED it with his comment...true dat!
Also, isin't it true that it's not sexual harassment if the guy is good looking? Then it's called "flirting"....
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i stare & leer, but silently & i keep my hands to myself. it's never going to stop so get used to it.
i don't see the appeal of upskirts, it's a terrible angle.
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AWESOMENESS!!!
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The man Bat: It would be flirting because there is RECIPROCATION: The fundament of a sane relation, otherwise is unilateral, non requested, and if it happens, plainly abusive! Simple math.
Get it?
Taken to the extreme:
that unilaterally is the logic of those men that kill women when they end the relationship. Not understanding the simple math.
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Amanda Harlech #22:
Stop shouting! I'm not blind!
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she writes in bold to make up for her lack of proficiency in the english language.
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and to make up for not making sense....
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Yes! Citizens reclaim the law!
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Upskirts are so passé! It's all about sideboobs now.
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I've never done the picture thing but I have definitely positioned myself so as to be directly behind a hot chick while going up the steps in the subway. It's an art. You can't let her know you're following but you can't let her get too far away. You also don't want anyone else to figure you out so you have to concentrate on natural movements that don't seem out of place in a group of people jockeying for position for the stairs. Sometimes if a chick suddenly takes the long way around a turnstile I might have to casually place myself behind an old lady struggling to get through the emergency door, or even hold it for her so I'm delayed enough to fall in behind the chick on the other side. It really requires some practice.
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Nobody can stop you from looking, and on the subway, it's unreasonable to think you could avoid looking at those around you. The moment you start taking photos, start touching, invading personal space or making comments, however, you've crossed a line. That's the difference.
I'll never understand why some men think that when they make a woman feel completely uncomfortable and violated, they've somehow paid her a compliment. There's a vast difference between wanted and unwanted contact.
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@26
you should get help.
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Spirit and Blackie go to the shooting range and load up on blanks. Does that tell you something?
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All you need is the Internet.
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Fine, stare all you want. But you had better be satisfied because you're not getting any further than that. No woman will be interested in someone who never learned that it's rude to stare at people. I've made friends with some very beautiful women over the years because they knew I wasn't just interested in their looks.
Blackie: See? I warned you. When an unemployed and unemployable old man has nothing to do all day, he'll just keep coming here and posting personal attacks if you piss him off. It's like he never graduated third grade.
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There's a lot to be said for the old fashioned method of self defense--carry a hat pin with you and use it. Pick one up at a vintage store, pin it to the inside of your bag or coat, and just insert into pervert as required. You will probably want to bring some antibacterial gel to wipe it off when finished.
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Occassionally, I mentally sexually harass and degrade women. But to actually do it physically? That's sick!
I'm just kidding girls, go about your stairclimbing.
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I second Steven. Get the net.