7 Train Extension Won't Include 10th Ave Station

The upcoming yards development is in the minds of some developers. Get real. Ground Zero first and then we can talk real.

Is everyone forgetting the upcoming Hudson Yards development? The 11th Ave & 34th St stop is exactly what is needed most IMO.

Where are the nimbys now? I don't want a station in my neighborhood!

Wasn't the entire IND built during the depression?

This city is pathetic.

Why extend the subway to the convention center?

Because the Javits Center competes against centers with direct mass transit for business. Other cities have mass transit to take you from the airport, to downtown and the convention center(s).

Even if this is built, we are still far behind on the straight to the airport section.

However, if the Javits Center was just a direct subway ride, then maybe New Yorkers could think of more usage than just the Auto Show.

Son: I don't disagree with anything you said. Just to clarify, the point of my comment was that not building the station doesn't magically make money available for other purposes.

Why is there a need for train service on 41st and 10th? Times Square is a few blocks away. There are plenty of trains at that station.

Of course they don't care baout the common man

if they did they then the 7 train extension would have been tied to the high -line reconstruction and instead of making a park for the rich to play in Chelsea/W. Village

They would have made that an working elevated train line and have the 7 train run all the way down to the West village

of course heaven forbid a subway line runs by the million dollar condos of chelsea

10th avenue real estate just took a hit

#6 said: "You don't "save" money by not building the station, you just borrow less."

Yeah, well, that's what got the MTA into the mess that they're in right now. They certainly don't need that extra debt down the line. God forbid the MTA shows some fiscal responsibility here.

Listen, I'm not saying the MTA hasn't screwed up...relying on the real estate market for the majority of its revenue wasn't the smartest thing to do in hindsight. But, sometimes it seems It's damned if they do, damned if they don't. They're slashing capital funding, cutting back on station rehabilitations that we've all taken for granted over the past 25 years...this is what happens when the economy is bad. Get used to it. This is just the beginning.

Really, everyone should be more worried about the state of the second avenue subway project...which the city desperately needs more than a small west side station on the 7. The increased cost of building materials is already pushing the budget past the amount of money that the Feds gave us and the concessions are starting. This is a project that has already be cancelled twice due to bad economic conditions. But, since half the people won't be around to see it finished, it doesn't get the attention it should.

"The extension is expected to be finished in 2013"

More like 3013.

@smokedgouda

The option that expired was to build the shell. The city didn't want to pay the MTA to go through with the option.

"The extension is expected to be finished in 2103. Please be patient."

Let's see more accurate reporting here.

This is extremely shortsighted. Are they at least going to build the "shell" they were talking about as a minimal option?

You don't "save" money by not building the station, you just borrow less.

But if you're gonna do it, do it right.

I fucking hate local stations on the 7. How about a express 7? oh wait there is? How come I never see one? It's like a urban legend.

"Is that the only reason we build subway stations now, to spur development? How about to serve the people that are already in a neighborhood?"

answer: they don't care. Period.

FYI, Columbus Circle station is still not finished. The incompetence is stunning, this "renovation" has been going on for 2+ years.

Great...everyone blames the MTA again when it's the city's fault this time! Only the city wanted to extend the 7 line...the MTA had no intention of doing so until the city came up with the $2.1 billion for it. It's the city's fault for not providing additional funds for the 10th Avenue station/cavern.

Hell the city is still shafting the MTA. The city is paying for the tunnel and station but they won't pay the MTA the extra cost of additional rolling stock, storage space, or the extra money to operate an extension.

What utter crap this is. So we're building a subway line to serve tourists and conventioneers. No New Yorker will ever ride that part of the line.

But was it necessary to do this to attract those tourists? Was the Javits Center wilting for lack of access to the subway? Were conventions thinking about coming here, but then deciding against it because midtown Manhattan is just too far in the boonies? Of course not -- you can walk to Javits, or (as most convention attendees do) take a cab. (If anything, this just cuts the throats of the taxi drivers who used to service the Javits Center.)

The only part of this project that made it almost worthwhile was the part that would have provided access to the western parts of midtown -- where the, you know, actual New Yorkers live. And that's the part we're cutting.

Cutting service for New Yorkers to prevent tourists from having to take a cab. F-in' brilliant, MTA. F-in' brilliant.

RIP, 10th Avenue station!

And @ianmac47, totally. By the time the city realizes they need this station, it'll cost, what, double or triple what it costs now?

Obviously if the economy is contracting and people are facing unemployment, the very first thing government should do is limit the number of jobs by providing less services. Maybe the MTA can write everyone a stimulus check with the money they save instead of creating new jobs by hiring people to construct a service people need, that is, a new subway station.