Gothamist: Confession in Pace Student's Death

da90027

Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:52:00 -0500

After reading some of the comments on here I have to say most people (esp younger people as I am 47) have very little compassion or sensitivity these days. Did your parents do that lousy of a job that you have to come on here and ridicule a murder victim? Gay or straight this happens all the time and for you lowlifes to come on here and make sick jokes just shows how morally bankrupt you are. If this were a relative of yours it might not be so funny. Karma is a bitch so be very careful what you say and do to others.

chris lee

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:39:26 -0500

I just want to frame JenChung as a person who WANTS to believe that point of view. facts are of no interest to him/her. Despite JenChungs claim, murder is not all THAT common and especially when a promising young student, is killed in connection with a lurid sex angle, that has public interest. The sad thing is that this is the entrenched thoughtless opinion so common in our city like a cancer on the civic politic.

JacqueMehoff

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:24:05 -0500

I do too, nj. anyway they caught the crazy hispanic guy.

nice job

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:00:34 -0500

gee whiz i'd really prefer it if nyc media outlets only covered the murders of the race/cutlure/religion that i identify most closely with!

JenChungsBra

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:38:35 -0500

You're comparing this "story" to the Sean Bell case, where cops shot up a car full of unarmed men and killed a guy on his wedding day? Or to the guy who robbed a bunch of 90+ year old women? Are you friggin' kidding me?!?!

chris lee

Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:16:36 -0500

so? what about sean bell? What about the old lady who was robbed of her $ those stories had legs, were they white?

JenChungsBra

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:28:25 -0500

How can you not see my point? I'll make it plainer for you: People are killed every day in this city in every way, yet the vast majority barely get a paragraph or two on page 37 of the Post if that much. So why so much ink devoted to this guy? Perhaps because he's WHITE and young and handsome? Otherwise there really isn't very much that's remarkable about this case (if you're not into laughing about it, which I'm not). My condolences to the family too, but that wasn't the point.

chris lee

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:16:30 -0500

You laugh without me, MFer..you're that cold nihilism that allows you to not feel anything. This kid had so much to live for but his recklessness and ignorance did him in. Young people are prone to make mistakes but in as violent an environment as NYC, some naivete can be fatal.

MFer

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:04:38 -0500

Well, JenChungsBra is wrong only in this sense. This is a laugher. If I smoked a pipe, I would light up. If I were into tea, I would sugar and milk it. Death is not funny, not usually, not when it is absurd. But this one is ... pathetic. It is in the news because it is pathetic. And it deserves a good laugh.

chris lee

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:35:03 -0500

the key thing about living in ny is don't be in the wrong place in the wrong time with the wrong people. this tragedy is the perfect illustration of this.

NannyState

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:33:18 -0500

^ Or too high. After a night of clubbing or whatever, a lot of people are at their most vulnerable and sadly, so many other people can't wait to take advantage of that.

Kojak

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:14:53 -0500

I'll talk to strangers, as long as they're not too sketch. This guy was possibly too trusting.

JacqueMehoff

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:05:39 -0500

maybe, maybe not. you roll the dice and takes your chances. why not be a true ny'er and not talk to stangers.

Kojak

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:52:45 -0500

Yes, because a proper Pace orientation would've saved his life. 'This man seems like a good guy. I'd let him in, but my Pace U advisor told me not to talk to strangers.'

JacqueMehoff

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:18:26 -0500

SS got it right, don't let strangers into your home. for any reason. looks like PACE has to do some more student orientation work.

Shinobi Shaw

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:07:59 -0500

I feel sorry for the kid, such waste of life on someone who was naive and lacked Street Smarts.

chris lee

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:40:28 -0500

"Excuse me, but who gives a flying fuck about this guy? People are killed in this city every day but as soon as the young white guy is found strangled in his underwear all of a sudden it's big news." Ummm..if you excuse ME, the news cycle covers the deaths and near deaths of many people Sean Bell, the little old lady who got her $900 and cane stolen, the (black) child hit by a stray bullet..I don't get your point.

westernqueensland

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:08:12 -0500

Ace, I despise JenChungsBra, but he's right this time.

westernqueensland

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:05:58 -0500

pity

slyseekr

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:35:04 -0500

^^ Meant to say "I Blah...

slyseekr

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:34:15 -0500

It tells you that people who don't think they're gay have serious gay fantasies. I

Rocknrope

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:22:55 -0500

mocanlagunas, the timing on your first try was better.

jink

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:00:46 -0500

RIP kevin. This kid did something most of us have done at least once. Chilling.

JacqueMehoff

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:58:09 -0500

that's what usually matters on this site.

mocanlagunas

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:51:43 -0500

What does it matter if he was gay and/or promiscuous? that's irrelevant... what matters is, was the murderer black?

JacqueMehoff

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:39:57 -0500

why? don't you mean Where's Al Sharpton?

Ace

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:26:23 -0500

JenChungsBra, I don't want to start a war with you but your comment is so insensitive that it warrants this reply......get some help. My condolences to the family.

sinisterteashop

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:16:56 -0500

I don't know what's more telling of New York City's community; the murder, or all the presumptive and biased comments from half the folks on this board... It tells you that people who don't think they're gay have serious gay fantasies.

slyseekr

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:05:11 -0500

I don't know what's more telling of New York City's community; the murder, or all the presumptive and biased comments from half the folks on this board...

Wza

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:48:56 -0500

Amen Jen and Chris! By the way, he was smothered in his sleep. He met a stranger and invited him up. The guy is being charged today, it was on the news.

chris lee

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:07:39 -0500

I just hope this is seen as a cautionary tale to all of these naive kids who see this town as some sort of safe playground. NYC for all of it's positives is still an extremely predatory and dangerous environment.

JacqueMehoff

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:31:10 -0500

let's let the detectives do their work because I have no clue where to begin. if anything this may put a damper on the no strings attached ads on CL.

JenChungsBra

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:23:16 -0500

Excuse me, but who gives a flying fuck about this guy? People are killed in this city every day but as soon as the young white guy is found strangled in his underwear all of a sudden it's big news.

Think twice

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:11:58 -0500

Re: [2] One of the pitfalls of the *promiscuous* lifestyle; the old anonymous sexual encounter with a serial killer routine. It's not just a gay thing. Ever seen "Looking for Mr. Goodbar"?

dooWOP

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:57:50 -0500

Well, that's a given - but, for his parents' sake let's hope we don't find gay BDSM porn...

edEx

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:57:16 -0500

r.i.p. have a little more respect, people.

chris lee

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:47:49 -0500

uggh..can you imagine..now they will go thru all his things and find all of this gay porn he's been trying to hide.

NannyState

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:06:42 -0500

Homosexual overkill? In other cities, the perps were found to be deeply closeted cops. Could be a starting point.

Tgirl

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:50:53 -0500

well, we can rule out the Smiley Face bunch on this one

dooWOP

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:26:26 -0500

Now we all know why little Kevin wanted to move into the big city. Now, let's all just hope that he wasn't into gangbanging thugs on da down low...

Snoopy

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:19:33 -0500

"He was gay and Madonna is straight, the neighbor said." Round up the usual suspects and go from there. I got the above info from a very reliable source, the Daily News, not the Post.

Snoopy

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:13:08 -0500

was "very promiscuous" Which way was he promiscuous, with men or women? If it was door number one, look no further.

ides_of_march

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:07:50 -0500

One of the pitfalls of the gay lifestyle; the old anonymous sexual encounter with a serial killer routine.

Kojak

Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:06:59 -0500

(Another Post source says that Pravia was "very promiscuous" but the Post adds "there were no signs he'd had sex the night he died.") A college student having promiscuous sex?? Unheard of! For what its worth, I'd take anything that the Post says with a grain of salt.