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The reaction to Mayor Bloomberg's wind power plan, which proposes wind turbines off the shores and maybe even atop buildings and bridges, is decidedly mixed. In one corner, you have fans like Donald Trump--"It's something we should absolutely be looking at"--and former mayor Ed Koch--"I think it's ingenious. Absolutely ingenious." In the other corner, you have, oh, architects and engineers who think the plan, per the NY Times, "would be complicated and expensive and barely begin to meet the growth in demand for electricity that is expected in the coming years."
The experts points out that it would be costly to retrofit buildings to support heavy turbines. The TImes also points out an original design for Freedom Tower from Skimore, Owings & Merrill included eight wind turbines but "Gov. George E. Pataki expressed concern about the danger the blades would pose to migrating birds, and others worried about them icing up." The head of solar energy design company altPower, Antony Pereira, said, “New York is really a solar city,” noting it's less expensive to install solar panels and they pay for themselves much faster.
Mayor Bloomberg said yesterday, "Are you going to put a big windmill on the top of the Empire State Building? I think that's very unlikely...Can you put windmills off the coastline? That is highly likely." And as for Trump, when the Post asked if he'd add wind turbines, he said, "My buildings are known for their great architecture, so I'd have to give it some serious thought."
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Donald Trump is also known for his ability to generate wind.
Can we strap a turbine to the Donald's head?
Gov. George E. Pataki expressed concern about the danger the blades would pose to migrating birds
That used to be a concern, many years ago. Today's wind turbines actually turn very slowly, an engineering change that was made in part for that reason.
gross, look at those tacky boring typical luxury highrises on the west side highway. his architecture is garbage.
I'm simply stunned by Trump's statement. I'm not sure how he truly believes that anyone thinks that about his buildings.
what else do you expect him to say, as far as those birds are concerned - who gives a shit, really. if burning pigeons alive would save energy, i'll bring the matches.
"Great architecture"? No. But if you fed Donald Trump into a turbine, what comes out the other end might qualify as great art.
The head of solar energy design company altPower, Antony Pereira, said, “New York is really a solar city,” noting it's less expensive to install solar panels and they pay for themselves much faster.
Gee, a solar company CEO saying solar is the only choice. What a surprise. Why not both wind and solar? Or does he think photovoltaics alone can provide all the electricity NYC needs?
Somebody needs to tell the Donald that the only "great" thing his buildings are known for is the unparalleled ego of their namesake.
Forget Windpower: Lets start harnessing the power of dumb. We can begin with Trump...
Why aren't they considering the wind turbines designed by Bil Becker? They are implementing these in Chicago and they resolve both architectural and environmental concerns, including birds and ice accumulation. Perhaps the offices serving Pataki and Bloomberg should be more exposed to emerging technologies in this field prior to making recommendations. As you can read for yourself, the article in the attached link is from 2005...you would hope that politicians would be exposed to this type of information by now...but perhaps that is too optimistic.
http://www.consciouschoice.com/2005/cc1808/windmain1808.html