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Heads up Black Sheep, your neighbors want you to STFU! The Brooklynian message board was abuzz about the Bergen Street bar yesterday when a local said they had to put up with "bad classic rock at full volume" until well after 2:30 a.m. on Monday night. A reasonable complaint – no one deserves to have their dreams invaded by the musical stylings of Foghat – but then the bad advice came rolling in: "While the noise is occurring, call 911." A second sage declared that late at night "is no time for you to worry about whether you're being inconsiderate by calling the authorities." That's the path that one local took when going up against Union Hall earlier this year (he lost), so using resources like 911 for complaints like that isn't always advised--hello, Reginald Peterson. Instead call 311 and try talking to the bar owner.
Neighbors Suggest Calling 911 to Combat Loud Bergen St Bar
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"Instead call 311 and try talking to the bar owner."
wrong. at 2:30am on a monday night you call the local precinct directly. & often.
Call both 311 and the local precinct. The cops can come and take care of the immediate situation but the 311 calls will tip the DEP, who if you're lucky will call you up to find out what time send inspectors.
Calling 311 for a noise complaint is about as useful as asking your cat to solve the problem. Even if 311 actually fowards your complaint to the precinct, the police will sit on their asses, file a false report claiming that they responded (which they didn't), and nothing will be done. The police are too corrupt and busy beating innocent civilians. To expect them to actually be useful and to uphold the law is futile.
I agree with #3. I used to live opposite a noisy bar -- the sounds was sufficiently loud to rattle objects in my apartment -- and over a period of more than a year my neighbors and I called 311 hundreds of times with no effect whatever. Calling the local precinct, when the phone wasn't "busy", was equally ineffective. So was sending copies of the NYC noise regulations to the precinct captain and other local officials. One of my neighbors did hit on a good solution: he got a few large firecrackers, and, on a noisy night, would set one or two of them off and then call 911 and say that he heard a loud noise that sounded like gunfire. Within a minute or two, long before any police had arrived, the bar was closed, dark and very quiet. I'm sure they got a phone call from their friends at the precinct as soon as the call from 911 came in. It helped that there were some real shootings at or near the bar from time to time.
It isn't a matter of the cops being brutal or lazy. It's a matter of payments for value received.
#3- An apt name...
If it's not crowd noise but in fact music from a sound system then the DEP can sometimes do some good. Don't give up. Those fines can be pretty hefty and enough of them could get a club shut down.
i actually printed up flyers with the local precinct's phone # & slipped them under the doors of all the apartments in all the buildings surrounding the noisy bar before i moved out to a neighborhood with zero bars & away from buildings with the space to even house a bar.
or you can be responsible and not move above a bar if you dont like noise
idiots
Exactly. Moving above a bar and bitching about the noise is just as dumb as moving next to an airport and whining about all the planes flying over your head. You knew what you were getting yourself into.
(Or a bartender complaining about second hand smoke for that matter.)
the bar is newish (2 or 3 years) so Im sure many people in the area lived there before it opened.
I live down the street and love the bar but the night in question I walked by it and there was a band and about 4 times more people than normal. I could see how an old person could get pissed.
Neighbors, instead of complaining, try to be more congenial hosts to these establishments: after hours, drop by and serve Molotov coctails.
For the record, eating here was one of my worst dining experiences ever. Not only did the mediocre food come so late that it was ICE COLD, but I asked the bartender to make me a drink. My only stipulation: nothing sour. I repeated it just to be sure he heard, and he said it back to me.
The drink had lemon juice, citron vodka, and SOUR MIX.
I have no idea how you can be that idiotic or blatantly rude.