Gothamist: Cop Pauses Beating to Take Call in New Brutality Video

glennQNYC

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:51:26 -0500

Now here is a perfect example of how a cellular hands-free device would have increased productivity.

chuzzlewit

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:11:29 -0500

bottom line on this one is that it doesn't matter if harvin is the devil himself - the instant that nightstick touches a person in handcuffs....deal's off and we know we have a yellow dog on our hands. Say hello to the new night watchman!

FrankMartin

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:26:36 -0500

I read Jack Welch applied a 10% rule while running GE. 10% of the companies employees are stars, 80% are worker Bees and 10% are no good and should be replaced each year. I apply that 10% rule to all groups, cops, politicians, CM riders, clergy, plumbers, lawyers etc. My rule works like this: At least 10% of all groups are absolute idiots, and when you have a large group that means these idiots can drastically impact the public’s opinion of said group. When these 10%ers behave like idiots it gets attention, after all no one reports when a plane lands safely. Is it fair, I can't say, but the silver lining is that other 90%. So lets look at the NYPD, almost 40,000 cops. That means 4,000 bad cops who shouldn't be on the job. This minority can have a drastic impact on their peers and the public opinion of the NYPD. Some would call it a “Blue Wall of Silence”, but I also think it is fair for them to be loyal, like a team. In many cases it is clear what is morally right, but acting the right way can be hard especially when older senior officers have, perhaps, dated attitudes toward what civil law enforcement should be (I know the CM cop was a rookie, but it is a family business). Same goes for CM, 1000 riders. That means 100 idiots. It isn't us against all of them, just some. Anyway it is something I think about when reading stories like this one and the others this week. Maybe I'm naive, but it helps keep the hopelessness at bay. I do have exceptions, some groups, like say the Nazis and hit-men rise to the 100% BAD level. There are 8,000,000 New Yorkers, that means 800,000 idiots. The chance that one will ruin your day, if you let them, is pretty high. Don’t let them.

JenChungsBra

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:14:56 -0500

If it's true that the suspect was cuffed and calm enough for the cop to take a call on his cell phone then what excuse could there be to club him more when the call was done? Seriously.

Spiritof76

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:09:58 -0500

The farce that is "New York's Finest" just gets better with each passing day. I think they should launch a new reality show just with NY cops. They can call it NYPD Black & Blue.

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:03:58 -0500

Politiburo, those blogs are too neocon for me. I'm more at home on Mish's Global Economic Analysis, Tanta's Calculated Risk, Roubini's blog, Market Ticker, Lew Rockwell, etc. FreeRepublic has it's nice points, but it's too infested with neocons.

citizenerased

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:01:04 -0500

Deca = Roided-up Bill O'Reilley/Patrick Pogan Sr.

zodak

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:00:45 -0500

"thankfully Pb is still available, even to us regular citizens." mmmmm...Peanut Butter. time for a late lunch!

moonbeam

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:59:46 -0500

#13 said: "How do you know this guy getting beat wasn't just touching little kids on the playground?" Totally irrelevant. Police officers' job is to take the suspect into custody, not to determine guilt or inflict punishment. They aren't vigilantes.

McFister

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:58:22 -0500

Deca = Matt Sanchez

Politburo

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:57:21 -0500

"I have seen many a tune up administered and most of them were deserved." Wrong. In our system, the courts administer punishment, not the police. It's that simple. indy - They do have their own blogs. FreeRepublic, LGF, Hotair, just to name a few.

Dirk

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:55:00 -0500

Bad week for the NYPD....

drewo

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:52:59 -0500

Is anyone who isn't a limp wristed liberal considered a troll here? I think most folks across the political spectrum would not appreciate an unprovoked beatdown by a cop.

JMH

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:51:16 -0500

"How do you know this guy getting beat wasn't just touching little kids on the playground?" You don't think the police source describing the video would've said so if that had been the case?

WestVillageVintage

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:50:47 -0500

@ Indy Agreed. They bring the level of discussion down to a very low level. They should be blocked as highly offensive to any decent person. Why give them the space to spew hate?

UnrepentantFenian

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:41:38 -0500

You are a naive child SP.

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:39:42 -0500

#13 is mostly right.

JacqueMehoff

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:35:57 -0500

finally, I've always wondered why there is a slight resentment towards Veterans from the NYPD. even though Kelly was a Marine and many of these LI cops benefited from previous Veteran entitlement programs after the War.

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:34:51 -0500

In defense of this alleged victim, no where in the story does it state he is a repeat offender. I'm assuming the DeHostos Houses are a drug infested housing project. The majority of the residents are poor, but decent people, many of whom are hardworking people. I acknowledge that, unlike most of the liberals here who demonize the working poor. The police need to administer a firm hand in dealing with the violent element of those projects. The goal is to have a place where children can play free from drugs, where there isn't random violence etc. Unfortunately, to keep the drug element out, the police need to see who belongs there, and who doesn't. What appears to happen is that the Officers asked this gentleman to produce some ID, and he refused. Something ensues, which the video will clear up, and this gentleman was on the receiving end of an attitude adjustment. The video will clear up everything, since it's a security camera that apparently captured the whole incident. Just don't rush to conclusions, and spout anti-cop sentiments. It's the police and the good people of those gentrified neighborhoods that allowed you hipsters from Ohio to settle in places like the Lower East Side, Williamsbug, DUMBO, etc. Don't you libs forget that.

NannyState

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:34:43 -0500

Think of what will happen when all those guys in Iraq come home. Half will be struggling to reintegrate, the other half will apply for the police force. All may have some form of PTSD. It won't be pretty.

SP

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:34:39 -0500

#13, you such a fucking moron. What makes you assert that this guy is a "repeat offender" and an "animal?" You obviously did not even read the story. And, there is no justification for "administering a tune up." You are the animal. Please go get hit by bus now, like the filthy rat you are.

JacqueMehoff

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:32:00 -0500

thankfully Pb is still available, even to us regular citizens.

Billiamsburg

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:28:14 -0500

As a former vet all I can think is that maybe this is some subconscious resentment from the officers. I mean, we know the majority of them didn't have the balls to enlist even though they thought of themselves as 'hard assed' military types. In a way he's trying to beat himself. "Damn you! You are such a coward! You are so weak! So weak!"

indy

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:27:39 -0500

maybe deca and hitlers ugly baby should start their own blog. any story involving blacks, jews, immigrants, police brutality, or sexual violence is used as a platform to spew their twisted views. police brutality is a real problem- cops think they can do whatever they want and usually they can...

UnrepentantFenian

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:23:40 -0500

How do you know this guy getting beat wasn't just touching little kids on the playground? How do you know he didn't spit on the officer? I have seen many a tune up administered and most of them were deserved. Repeat offenders don't fear jail the way the average citizen does. It isn't punishment to them. It's just another day to them. They aren't going to be disgraced. They aren't going to face a fine or have their wife leave them. Pain is the only punishment you can inflict on a career criminal. I'm not saying it's right or should be condoned, but until you spend some time dealing with these animals you will never understand the motivation. This officer at 43 is no hot headed rookie; I'd like to hear his side of the story.

handsomedevil

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:22:18 -0500

"Is anyone who isn't a limp wristed liberal considered a troll here?" Just people who write stupid shit like that.

handsomedevil

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:19:44 -0500

"You are not supposed to beat a man once he is cuffed, but the video shows the [suspect] down on the ground, cuffed. They even stand him up in the corner and beat him with the [baton] some more," said a police source familiar with the security video.

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:17:19 -0500

You guys haven't even seen the video of this incident, and the anti-cop comments start. There's even one comment asking for a riot, and I'm the troll? Is anyone who isn't a limp wristed liberal considered a troll here?

MFer

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:16:32 -0500

Interesting how Orwell got it all wrong. Little bro is watch ya.

Politburo

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:02:14 -0500

Deca is the newest troll.. just let them be.

JacqueMehoff

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:16 -0500

I like your posts JDS, snarky with no passive aggressive editorials.

SP

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:56:36 -0500

You've built up a track record of stupid, and verging on fascist, comments in the recent spate of police brutality threads. So when I saw this story, I said to myself, I bet that asshole Deca will come out with more pro-brutality rubbish. And sure enough, there it is. Otherwise, I couldn't give a shit about you.

interlard

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:51:07 -0500

Blah blah, write to Bloomberg... the newspapers... it'll happen to you. LOOK: When are we rioting until some politician schmuck wakes up to stop this crap?

ganghiscon

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:42:39 -0500

NYPD has declared war on Army vets!

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:39:14 -0500

That's great, SP. You weren't even a figment in my mind, but it's great knowing you care so much.

SP

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:37:12 -0500

I knew you would have posted some assholish comment like this.

Deca

Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:35:52 -0500

To be fair, I'll withhold judgement until I see the video.