Video of Cop Assaulting Cyclist at Critical Mass Ride

Another Critical Mass ride, another stunning display of police brutality. Watch as one of New York's finest violently shoves a cyclist off his bicycle, launching him through the air to the curb at 46th street and Seventh Avenue during Friday night's monthly Critical Mass ride.

Although a judge ruled in 2006 that the monthly Critical Mass bicycle rides could proceed without a permit, the NYPD's stance remains somewhat adversarial. Though the city has not been enforcing the controversial parade permit law when it comes to Critical Mass, police have been ticketing cyclists during the ride for such infractions as not having the required lights.

A representative for TIMES UP! tells us that the cyclist in this video was arrested, held for 26 hours, and charged with attempted assault and resisting arrest. One other cyclist was ticketed Friday night for riding outside the bike lane, which is not actually illegal and often necessary, considering how popular bike lanes are for double parking.

UPDATE: MyFoxNY has it that the police officer in the video – 22-year-old Patrick Pogan – has been stripped of his badge and gun and the NYPD has "placed the officer on desk duty pending the outcome of a department investigation." The cyclist, Christopher Long, has not commented, but his lawyer said, "The video speaks for itself."

UPDATE 7/29: More details here, including how Officer Pogan is apparently a third-generation cop and Long is described as an Army veteran who works as a grocer at the Union Square Green Market.

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The CYCLIST was charged with attempted assault??? What am I missing here.

Wow, what a piece of shit that cop is. Fucking ridiculous. I hope someone got his badge number and filed a grievance with the CCRB.

Pretty damning evidence. I hope they got his badge number and name.

So we complain about inconsiderate cyclists and how the cops do nothing about them, but when one of them is clearly disobeying the law (no riding to the right, no lights) and a cop does something, it's bad?

wow!

critical mass: shouldn't need a permit but should obey traffic lights.

cop: should be fired and charged.

you: digg this story, this is a REALLY bad sight to see no matter what your politics are.

Piece of shit nypdickhead.

Unless that rider did something a block or 2 before, and the police were standing in the street looking for him, that cop has a world of trouble coming.

Courtesy, professionalism...respect.

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Holy shit. In the slow-motion version you can see the cop take big leap forward in order to push the rider over.

If this hadn't been on video, the story would have been that the rider tried to hit the cop.

Maybe the cop was pissed about the CM ride in DC.

EXACTLY, robingee!!!!

btw, the cops were blocking traffic, not the cyclists!!

and note, the attackee is doing nothing but riding his bike and he actually is quite within the pathetic remnant of a bike lane/sharrow. i know cuz i bike there all the time.

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longacre - there's "doing something about it" and then there's obviously going way, way too far. I want cops to stop people from parking or pulling over in bicycle-lanes, but I don't want them ramming their squad-cars into offending drivers in order to do so.

Whatever happened to holding up your hand and staying "Stop". Chances are the cyclist would have stopped.

I smell a major lawsuit. This cop is going to spend a lot of time in court, and hopefully anger-management classes.

joeb - you're right on. During the rt, I thought perhaps the cop misjudged his step and accidentally ran into the guy.

But no way, he used the lunge and his shoulder like a line backer!

Hope the guy is dishonorably discharged!

robot meat head failure power whore.

I might be wrong but it seems to me that entire group of riders ran a red light at the previous intersection. Someone educate me, isn't that sort of civil disobedience a hallmark of these events?

The traffic in the cross street is stopped as is the traffic travelling in the same directions as the bikes. Am I wrong? There seem to be walkers stuck in the cross walk as bikes go by.

I bet a lot of people would support cops aggressively pursuing and stopping anyone who runs red lights. Drivers (especially) or cyclists. I for one think it is too bad you can't hip check taxis.

holy shit. maybe this is a campaign by the nypd to remind riders to wear helmets! you know, because you could have a crazy asshole pig run up and shove you off your bike at any time.

Headline should read "CM rider, looking for trouble, finds it."

Not that the cop isn't an a-hole, but thats what those guys are doing - provoking.

what we have here is a video for which we have virtually context, showing a uniformed police officer standing in the middle of the Times Square watched by approximately 100-300 camera-holding spectators launching a vicious takedown of a cyclist. Call me naive or optimistic, but i doubt that even the most brutal, corrupt cop on the NYPD would be stupid enough to do that.

The way these two cops were standing, they look like they are watching for somebody, and poised to take action on them when they see him. More than likely, the 'attempted assault' this guy was guilty of happened somewhere earlier off-camera, and these two cops had been ordered to take him down when they saw him.

I'm not saying the NYPD is a model of probity, but let's be realistic here. Critical mass bikers can be assholes, the rides attract riff-raff and contribute to a "disobedient" mindset that some people take too far. more than likely this guy had it coming to him.

Ok now wait a minute.

Whatever it is the NYPD is trying to enforce...the best they can come up with is to trounce a rider to the curb?

Wake the fuck up, NYPD. There has GOT to be a better way to go about this, regardless of what the rider's presumed infraction is.

Someone made a post on another forum and said


"Why did the officer do that?"

And my question is...why did the officer do this? Did the cyclist do something bad earlier? Context is important here and this video has none.

Still, I think the takedown was unnecessary at first view.

Are you kidding me? The cop's intent was OBVIOUSLY to knock the rider down with brutal force. From what we see on the tape the rider swerves way out to avoid the cop, showed no intention of confrontation, and demonstrated no outstanding wrong doing in relation to the dozens of other riders with him.

sorry, two corrections to my comment- no cop would be stupid enough to do that without a very good reason.

And i should have said the 'attempted assault' this guy was CHARGED WITH, not 'guilty of'

"Critical mass bikers can be assholes"

True to some extent, but what happened in the video is unjustifiable. The charges will be dropped and the cop will be disciplined accordingly. I hope Gothamist follows up on this story. Its far more interesting then that subway romance BS.

What the mother fuck?!!??!

As for the folks running Devil's Advocate... unless that biker had just shoved someone else to the ground or done something comperable there is no reasonable justification for the actions of that cop.

That was pathetically barbaric and shameful behavior on the part of the nypd.

This cop is going to spend a lot of time in court...

This cop from what I can see from the video lunged at the bicyclist. What we can't see, is if the bicyclist had anything that endangered the cop.

What I can assess, is the bicyclist was already passing the cop and was in NOT endangering the officer . The officer used excessive force, which in the case of this situation, the officer assaulted the bicyclist and should be arrested and charged with assault. The officer is guilty.

kojak- i'm not saying he should be taken down like that just because a large percentage of CM riders may be assholes. what i'm saying is that he may be the type of asshole who had committed assault earlier in the ride and was considered dangerous enough to deserve to be taken down. Do we know if he had a knife? do we know if he was whipping a bike chain around or anything else? No, we don't know anything, because we have no context and haven't heard any part of the NYPD's side of the story. it would help if there were a link to some sort of news article explaining why this happened.

what it comes down to is, do you really believe this cop is career-suicide inclined enough to pick a biker at random, assault him in front of several hundred people (many of whom are clearly recording this event), cuff him, then speciously charge THE BIKER with assault and resisting arrest? That is insane.

the cops don't care, they'll still get their pension, their placard, their off duty/retirement carry license etc.
it's not coming out of their paycheck and they know the brass would support them no matter what.

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I don't normally like cyclists, but that cop needs to have the book thrown at him.

That's some bullshit right there.

Another reason why you should always wear a helmet.

you people seem to be living in a fantasy world of "certain unalienable rights". fuck that eighteenth's century shit.
the job of the Fascist Security Forces, aka.. ny's finest, is to soften up the criminals (pushing the scum of the bike) (we're all criminals by the way) and then extracting the voluntary confession (26 hours in jail).

@edEx
"The officer is guilty."

So you're convicting him based on a 80-second clip with no context? Out of curiosity, how did you feel about Bill Frist's diagnosis of Terry Schiavo based on similar evidence?

Everybody wants to NAIL this cop, but it seems worrisome that there's such a rush to judgement without any facts surrounding the incident.

yep, not illegal to be an asshole. nor to photograph or video pigs being pigs, which, context or not, you can see they've got a big problem with.

again, kids, listen to public enemy when they say "fuck the police" and carry that lesson with you at all times--it won't be wrong but maybe one percent of the time.

a pig is a pig is a pig, and this video is yet another in a long line that demonstrates that perfectly.

somebody wake me up when the NYPD comments on this or we have some explanation for the events surrounding this incident. Until then this video is salacious but completely uninformative.

I'm sure it's been said by many people over the years but all the people I knew in high school who went on to be cops were the worst of the worst bullies. Whether they are patrolmen or detectives or state troopers or whatever - as soon as they're given a badge they act as if they are allowed to just push people around "just because".

Screw them.

Given that this is the NYPD we're talking about, ANYTHING is possible. You have a point about the video being out of context, but even if the police wanted to stop the biker in question, its still overly harsh.

and the idea that "no cop would be stupid enough..." is weak as shit--never underestimate their stupidity--they are members of the pig herd *because* they are stupid, remember? it's that or working their way up to a job in the mail room in a basement somewhere (no offense to people who work in mail rooms), and that takes a lot more effort.

There is no way a reasonable person can defend the cop's assault on the cyclist.

mrguy - you are speculating and really have no reason to believe the things you say are true other than "well, what we see doesn't make sense." If you have much knowledge of the history of the NYPD's interaction then you'd know that much of what they do doesn't make sense. PERHAPS something happened before what we see on film took place, but there is also a good chance that nothing happened. Cops in NYC have driven scooters into crowds of cyclists, wrapped cyclists in netting to 'capture' them, and thrown cyclists in jail for over a day for simply running a red light.

now you can complain all you want about lawless cyclists, but the fact of the matter is running a red light does not warrant being arrested, and it certainly doesn't warrant being body checked to the ground. everyone is saying "critical mass riders are assholes" and while i am a cyclist that does not enjoy taking part in CM for various reasons, look at that video. do you see anyone being an asshole? i see people very calmly and peacefully riding through the streets. LOTS of families participate (or used to before the irrational crack down) in NYC CM. Lots of middle aged people did as well. It isn't a vandalizing band of young hoodlums, and those who think it is generally have never witnessed the ride and just assume it is full of young anarcho-terrorists or some such garbage because "Why else would the cops hate them so much!?"

Complain all you want about the effect the bike rides have on traffic, but it lasts roughly an hour once a month, and how much worse is it than typical NYC traffic? How often can you not get through an intersection because it is clogged with cars? How often do cars violate traffic laws? You can try to pin all of this on cyclists, but the truth is that everyone in NYC - cars, pedestrians, and cyclists - violate the laws of the street each day. Should jaywalkers be slammed to the curb?

Speaking as someone who often gets tagged around here as "anti-cyclist" because I, you know, want them to actually obey a few laws ... I still think this is way, way, way out of line on the NYPD's part.

I don't always approve of the way Critical Mass and its attendees handle themselves, but I believe in their right to protest without getting the shit kicked out of them by some jackass.

Dugg, and I hope the cop loses his job. I'm not interested in being "protected and served" by thugs.

These cops in the video are not randomly knocking people down. It's pretty clear from the video (even taking into account the lack of context) that they were waiting for this guy, and saw him coming, recognized him, and then knocked him over. If he truly did just assault an officer in another altercation, it's doubtful that he would have stopped because they held their hands up and said "stop." If some guy just punched your mom and you saw him riding by you on his bike, would you say "hey, you there, stop please!"???

Weird, Looks like he targeted that guy.

#32 mrguy:
I'm a huge nypd supporter, but this cop was out of line.

It will take an 80 second clip to dismiss the bicyclist of "attempted assault a. 80 seconds will also get this cop suspended, a nyc lawsuit and then a civil suit. this cop just cost the tax payers a few hundred thousand dollars, if not a couple million...

He's cooked.

at least he didn't get the taser!

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lets me play devil's advocate here, as someone pointed out context is important.

Lets says that the person pushed down just struck some 8 year old kid with his bike, did not stop and fled the scene.

Cops at the scene radio a description of the perpetrator to other cops further ahead.

Cop tells the biker to stop. Biker refuses.

Biker is pushed down.

Unless you were there, this is certainly a possibility.

Don't rush to judgment. That's all I am saying.

If the cop did this without justification, then this is abhorrent behavior.

mrguy - PO has NO EXCUSE for using a linebacker's move to get someone off their bike. PERIOD. This would be the equivalent of cops smashing their patrol car into someone who just ran a red light.

What we do see is a critical mass rider apparently doing exactly what dozens of other riders before and after him were doing: Riding around the POs.

Personally I think the cop singled this guy out because there weren't many riders directly behind him. If you watch the video again, there are almost no riders that come after the rider. The few that followed were on the other side of the street. So using this theory, the PO merely picked the easiest guy to knock off the bike without being in danger of getting run over afterward.

It also baffles me how dense this PO is to do this with cameras (from peds, CM riders, and surveillance) recording what he's doing. Perhaps it's an indication of how well protected he feels from complaints and lawsuits even with damning evidence.

kojak,
yeah, it looks harsh. but police work isn't pretty. these cops stood there while dozens of bikers rode past them. then the cop on our left sees the biker in question while he's still off camera. he starts moving to corner him, tracking his path, again, even as the biker is off camera. by the time the biker is in the frame he is clearly trying to move around the cop while maintaining speed. you see a cop trying to intercept your path and you don't slow down or stop? even if you're not under arrest, a cop is within their rights to stop you and talk to you. the cyclist's behavior, even the tiny amount that we can see, is suspicious. and who knows what happened off camera earlier.

That was spite. Pure. Unrestrained spite. The assault was disgusting, the charges are straight up Gestapo.

Once again, thank god camera technology can help meet out justice.

Times Up has my support. Tell us where the protest against this will be, 'cause I'm coming.

markedman, edEx-

I'm a cyclist myself, believe it or not. But i feel like events like CM give us a bad name. what exactly is the point of these rides anyway? They are disruptive, and i'd politely disagree that the people in this video are riding "calmly and peacefully". and who knows who did what while off camera. Isn't part of the CM ethos that anybody can join and there are no organizers? so basically it's just a mob?

However, that's beside the point. I agree 100% that a takedown like that for running a red light is out of line. And i agree 100% that the NYPD has been overly harsh on cyclists in CM in the past- the nets, the arrests, all of it. Total bullshit. But the cops targeted this guy, and IN THIS ONE INSTANCE, they probably had a reason that's good enough to justify (in front of a judge or civilian complaint review board, at least) their actions.

True, we're not seeing something that might have justified the police in stopping and arresting this cyclist, but what we also do not see is any attempt by the police to stop this cyclist properly. The officer makes no attempt to signal the cyclist to stop and seems to blindside him with a violent shove.

Cops policing events like this can't ticket/arrest everyone, so they do exactly what is seen here: pick one random participant and make an example out of them. does the cop think this is worth "career suicide"? No. He just thinks he won't be held accountable because cops almost never are. A COP SHOT SOMEONE WHILE OFF DUTY IN AN ACT OF ROAD RAGE, LEFT THE SCENE, AND WAS LET OFF! Cops in NYC think they are untouchable, so things like this happen. It's the climate we've allowed to be created, made worse in post 9/11 America. Everyone is considered a terrorist and it's all done in the name of national security. All this is doing is fostering more resentment and things are going to get worse before they get better.

Unbelievable! Unless that rider was about to cause harm to someone else there is no reason for that cop to do what he did. Do we live in some third world police state? No! CM vs. the police has been escalating for years. The cops feel the need to show their power so they don't appear weak or submissive to the activists.

I got a bullshit ticket during CM for not using a bikelane, which I beat in court because the cop didn't even know the full details of the law. The bikers run red lights and sing out there chants, but does anyone get hurt? No. Cops try to impose fear by giving out tickets, OK, but tackling a guy to the curb? Come on!

It's a disgusting act on that video and all of you who feel it was justified, you're all a bunch of slaves already.

The cop did what many of us would like to do.


interesting debate here, but based on this video, there really isn't much more to say. either you think there's no way that biker could have done something to justify being knocked down like that (and i'd be curious to hear other ideas for getting a biker to stop who clearly has no intention of doing so), and ergo this cop is guilty of assault, or you think (like i do) that there is a major part of this story that we have not yet heard that would exonerate the cop.

hopefully gothamist will update us when there is some kind of development.

I can't think of a better way to stop a cyclist who won't stop. He may have done something folks. Don't only trust the video. There is more to this story...

I agree: "Spite--pure, unrestrained spite."

That video made me feel sick to my stomach. Hope that cyclist sues.

Any info on who the cyclist was? Surely he is saying something somewhere about what happened...

I can't believe the level of rationalization in the comments here. "The rider may have committed a crime before and wouldn't have stopped." NYPD generally has lots of motor scooters at Critical Mass and if they want to catch someone riding a bicycle, they can. This jerk could have killed the guy with that move. It doesn't take a bike moving very fast for a head hitting the pavement to be fatal.

Yeah these fucking pigs! Please send more of them to South Queens to stop the goddamn rapist who has been terrorizing the neighborhood for months...
Thanks,
A Taxpayer

The cop should get a medal. These retarded bycycle pot heads dont even know why theyre riding. They just do it to be a rebel, at least once in their lifetime. everytime these losers block traffic I wish I had the balls to kick one of these worthless retards off their bikes.
This critical mass ride is completely useless and serves absolutely no purpose except to annoy people who actually work for a living.

mrguy - i'm a cyclist as well, and i have participated in CM rides and now choose not to because I don't feel that they accomplish anything other than stir up ill will. My biggest pet peeve is that, on a four lane street cyclists in CM spread across all 4 lanes to intentionally block traffic while they could just take one or two, be safer due to higher density, and not infuriate others. i'm not even an uptight commuter that wears a reflector vest and obeys all traffic laws. i ride a brakeless track bike and run almost every red light i come across, but i do so in a safe and responsible way and consider both cars and pedestrians when doing so. the reason i run lights and violate laws is because it is the safest way to ride in the city. you have to do whatever you need to protect yourself, and if that means putting distance between yourself and cars by running a light, then i do it. CARS AND PEDESTRIANS BREAK THE LAW TOO, and what irks me the most is that the people in the camp that constantly criticize cyclists for doing so choose to ignore that fact. people want to complain about everyone else. i instead have chosen to embrace the anarchy of NYC streets and expect that no one will obey they law. this is what keeps me safe, because when you ride according to what SHOULD happen based on laws, you get hit. i have seen this proven time and time again.

sorry, rant.

this cyclist definitely did something wrong - ride his bike in New York City. he should have stayed home, and done some internet activism, like digging articles, posting comments, and conjecturing how no "reasonable" NYPD officer would do something so brutal.

get real. critical mass has its problems, and so does the NYPD, but have any of you ever fallen off a bike, or been shoved off?

unless this cyclist was pointing a gun, or getting ready to sling shit [laced with anthrax] out of his bicycle spokes, there is no reason to be assaulted like that. context or no context.

for those thinking, "He deserved it," consider for a moment if this was your fun-loving friend, cousin, or other relative.

this is gross, and no justification for this kind of police brutality. we should not be so complacent as to be able to justify citizens (reckless or not) being assaulted like this.

Just to be clear, I am not a supporter of Critical Mass.

#45 TJ:
I agree it's possible, but as I said in my original post, "What I can assess", the cop is guilty.

:"It doesn't take a bike moving very fast for a head hitting the pavement to be fatal."


This all brings up a salient point about the importance of bike helmets.

"I can't think of a better way to stop a cyclist who won't stop."

It's still excessive force. The cyclist could have easily died if he landed on his head.

climbgod - while i agree with you that CM serves no real positive purpose, your characterization of CM riders is pretty off base. have you ever witnessed a ride or spoken to riders? There are many doctors, lawyers, teachers, families, and all other sorts of people riding in them. this is less true since the crack down has lead to participants having to fear for their own safety and livelihood, but it is still a diverse crowd. when you make baseless judgments and ill founded assumptions you just exacerbate the problem.

Thank you Spiritof76 for your civilized reasoning. The comment board seems to be lacking it today.

If that guy did something wrong he would've been bumrushed by half a dozen cops. When the cops decide they want to bring someone down to make a show of power, that's how it happens, randomly and suddenly.

"mrguy", your a cyclist huh? Do you obey all the traffic laws, have a bell on your bike, use lights at night? I sure hope so cuz if you don't big blue might come gunning for you too.

markedman-
every cyclist runs red lights and generally rides based on what he/she feels is safe, not what the lights say. If you can run a red with no less danger to anybody else than a pedestrian jaywalking, i say go for it.

But I think the cop didn't do this to the biker just for running a red light. there's more to this story.

That's a disgusting video. The cop needs to be kicked off the force and charged with assault.

ClimbGod, come on, these sweeping generalizations and insults don't do anyone any good, you retarded kitten-molester.

Until the NYPD raises its standards and stops recruiting ex-bouncers/GED dropouts/Long Island gym rats, this will never change....

Disgusting behavior, I guess 'to serve and protect' should be replaced with 'to overstep and assault'....

Oh Climbgod, get back on your Segway and get the hell out of the road.

And give me a break. I don't understand how anyone can defend the cop's actions. Sadly, the most prominent vacation memory in the minds of Times Square tourists will be of New York's "finest" overzealously defending the city from the threats of the villainous cyclists. It's called Brutality, plain and simple, and it should never happen in this country.

weatherman2012
Nope, i sure don't obey traffic laws or use lights at night (but i do have a massive air horn to get dumbshit pedestrians out of my way when they're walking in the bike lane on the brooklyn bridge).

for the most part though, even disobeying traffic laws, i ride safely. and i've disobeyed MANY traffic laws, often in front of cops, and never been harassed. However, i also haven't done it as part of a mob whose sole purpose seems to be to disobey traffic laws.

but that's all still beside the point. we don't hvae context for this vid, and my guess is this guy did something more than run a red.

What the NYPD really needs to do is double their starting pay to attract more worthy recruits and start to seriously weed out incompetent ogres.

Let's imagine that the rider did break some law or run a light. I see no evidence that either cop is making any attempt to stop the rider or to inform the rider that he has to stop.

Seems to me as if the biker can see the hit coming as he tucks his shoulder in while he continues to speed into the cop.

Now I'm not saying the cop was justified as that hit was brutal, but it does seem as if there's more to this situation than we can see in this video.

That said, I'm a bike rider here in the city and I never have problems with the cops. It just seems that Critical Mass, while a great idea, is not the best way to communicate a clear message to politicians in New York regarding the needs of cyclists in the city. Transportation Alternatives seems to do a much better job of communicating a clear message without putting its members in a position where they have to face off against aggressive cops.

Disgusting.


Sickens me more that people will use this as justification for paying cops MORE.


Cops need to be taught to respect civilians.
They don't need a higher starting salary.


If you change the attitude of the NYPD you will attract recruits that want to HELP (rather than tackle) people.

Wow. A lunging take-down. I think the professional thing to do would be to tell the biker to stop first. Unless the biker was attempting to assault someone else, that is complete bullshit.

1) If they were looking for the guy from a previous act, it's incredibly hard to pick out one rider out of hundreds coming at you at night. Give me a break, he obviously picks this guy at random.

2) I hate to say this, but it's going to take a death for people to wise up. That guy could have easily hit a pole on the sidewalk and really messed him up. If the cyclist had died, which he easily could have, would people still be arguing that the cop was justified?

And i can't tell, but it didn't appear like he was wearing a helmet...vid too blurry.

Maybe the cyclist said something to the cop which made him knock him down? Until more developments come from this story I don't know if it was the cop to blame or the cyclist. According to the video it looks more like it was the cop.

Watching another ">video makes you wonder about the total picture here, not excusing the cop but this mob is out of control.Cops lose their judgement shit happens...not good

haha so saying something is acceptable provocation for being tackled?

there's always going to be LEO supporters until that day...
until that day......

That video just made me sick to my stomach. I really hope we get an update on this one, and if not what's the best way to bring some official attention to it/ or complaint?

I think the cops ARE waiting for a specific cyclist:
one of the last ones, so other cyclists aren't witnesses & they can make up whatever story they want.
The cop should be canned. But probably he will just cost the city a crapload in damages thanks to the video

There is a context. NYPD hates critical mass rides and has been harassing cyclists involved for years. These aren't bike messengers mowing down peds on crosswalks, these are cycling enthusiasts on an organised monthly ride. Check wikipedia, in 04, nypd arrested 250 cyclists for no reason as a practice run warm-up for the rnc protests. I know a fellow who was held in an "auxiliary prison" by the west side highway for 48 hours with many others (a warehouse w/ tar floors). Charges were dropped. Still sucked.

Markedman,

let me know when you come back to reality. It seems it has been a while since you took some time off.
Of course I've seen the retards riding along the way with the only intention of blocking the ENTIRE STREET so traffic GETS STOPPED.
It is really cute that doctors and lawyers participate, I am quite touched. What I saw with my own eyes were pothead NYU students that never worked in their life and do not know why they have to block the streets. I say it again (as ignorant as it sounds), the cop should get a medal. Good for him.

I also want to point out that you did not mention what the critical mass ride is about.
Say hello to the lawyers and the doctors. I hate every single one of them. The lawyers are probably ACLU-pedophile defenders. I hope they will burn in hell.

I used to be very liberal but boy, do you airheads piss me off.

Please send these bruising bullies to South Queens to beat the shit out of the rapists. The women of that neighborhood need help-they can't do it alone...

Can somebody explain what Critical Mass' goal is? Seems that whatever it is, their method of getting it is rather like a child throwing a tantrum- annoying, disruptive, and ultimately counter-productive. Even more so when you read about what happened recently in Seattle at a CM ride.

As other posters have pointed out, if there was something this particular guy was wanted for, there would have been easier and faster ways to do it, and the cop would have made some sort of gesture or said something first. The other cop would have also been moving toward the biker.

What I see in that video looks an officer deciding to walk back to the side walk, expecting the biker to stop for him, and losing his shit when his authority is disrespected. He could claim he was almost run into, but the video clearly shows him almost doubling his stride to connect with the biker's path.

Charging him with assault is an old trick, and he would have gotten away with it, but cops are learning the hard way that they can't just rely on the old he said/she said tactic when everyone has a video camera.

robingee, would you like to debate this outrage at the starbucks around your corner? oh, youre there all the time, my bad.
we can also discuss about the deviousness of corporate america, while you can show off your new iphone. get lost.

That pig picked someone at random so that word of mouth would spread that the pigs are still harassing bikers. it's part of their plan to get less & less people to show up, because nobody wants to be the person that the pigs just happen to choose that month.

it also sends a message to bystanders that the NYPigD is tough.

context? watch the beginning of the video when that pig has his back to the oncoming pack of bikers: if he was searching for someone in particular he would never have turned around.

markedman is totally right.

Unless we hear that this guy had just pistol whipped a tourist, burned a kitten in the intersection, or murdered someone - this is absolutely, positively, 100% against all NYPD departmental rules of conduct. I'll take it even further and say that if the cyclist had done all 3 of those things the jackass cop still is not justified in acting that way. There was zero attempt to stop the rider, no hand gestures, no verbal confrontation. The guy on the bike was simply trying to ride around the cop - AS WAS EVER OTHER RIDER.

Why are people saying he made no attempt to stop???? Did he have any reason to?

It scares me to think how many people here are trying to rationalize this behavior - THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU SOMEDAY. Unless you are goose-stepping right along with the fascist state we are quickly becoming. What will you think then?

AuggieDoggy,

Brutality is what you call it, hippie girl. I think it was great, these are no-good losers that do this ride. What did ever change since they started doing it? Nothing. Whats the point? None. Why do people like you think it is okay to annoy the average Joe and the average Joe has to tolerate it? Why is that?
As I said, I wish more people would kick these idiots off the road.
If you want to be an activist, organize a rally, a march, whatever. Leave normal people alone, I don't care about your agenda.

And why should I get "out the road"? Are you really that lost with Alice in Wonderland that this stupid charade holds any importance to you? And what should happen in this country, lets not go there. But just to let you know, Woodstock was a while ago. The world changed a little bit. You didn't notice, did you?

Most of y'all need to fuck off back to streetsblog.

ClimbGod: it's difficult for me to imagine people so ignorant, but here you are.

ClimbGod - did you have an emergency or something you couldn't get to Friday night? Did that ride ruin your night?

I agree that there is no point for the ride and many of the people who ride are tools - but who gives a shit??? Make a list of things you like to do and I guarantee that myself and many other people will pick out some of them and comment on how retarded it is. WHO GIVES A FUCK??

1 night a month a bunch of people(some drs, some lawyers, lots of jackasses) like to ride the streets in a big group. Oooooooh - sunsabitches - send them home in body bags.

As someone commented earlier - you seem to be one of the enslaved and are happy being so - how bout you stay home and don't come out and read Mein Kampf or some shit. You'd be much happier

A lesson for New Yorkers - literally avoid the NYPD at all costs.

ClimbGod - give it up, you dig a deeper hole with each of your incoherent posts.

It's literally insane how something as simple as cycling pisses people off to the extreme. Unless the person on the bicycle had actually committed a crime he didn't deserve to be pummeled to the curb.

ClimbGod,

you are the one coming off as an ignorant ignoramus. it is amazing that you can stereotype a large mass of people as all being stoner nyu kids who never worked...blah...blah. go complain somewhere else. and as far as learning what critical mass aspires to do please learn to google. kthxbye

ClimbGod, I get the impression you're not a very smart person. The more you ramble on the more rediculous you sound. Average Joe? Normal people? What, do you think there's two groups of people out there, Critical Mass riders and everyone else?

Intolerence is the real culprit here. Intolerence breeds anger and thwarts reason. Even if there was no purpose to a Critical Mass rally the riders would still have a right to assemble.

CM does have a purpose however. The purpose is to not be complacent about bicycle rights and safety in NYC, and to use many voices to bring awareness to those things. Is it the best way to achieve those things? I'll admit there might be other ways to do it better, but that's why organizations like Trans Alt exist. There has to be multiple groups that to fight for those rights, and whether you like it or not, those rights are ours to exercise.

"The purpose is to not be complacent about bicycle rights and safety in NYC, and to use many voices to bring awareness to those things."

You mean like the fact that cyclists are JUST AS BAD about obeying simple traffic laws like the rest of the *asshole* drivers and pedestrians?

I didn't need CM to know that -- I see it every day.

Oh ClimbGod, I have been in a Starbuck's exactly once in my life. Silly. And I don't have an iPhone. Must be rough trying to peg people with your narrow view.

You're still a kitten molester though. =^..^=

As many people have stated earlier, in many cases disobeying traffic laws is safer than for the biker. We don't live in Copenhagen or Amsterdam. Everyone on the streets of NY behaves aggressively. Who obeys the traffic laws? Cars don't, pedestrians are all over the place, and cops are just as guilty. Hell, look at the condition of the streets. The city is guilty for maintaining unsafe conditions from potholes to falling cranes. The fact of the matter is that every group, ever person has to look out for the themselves and there's nothing wrong with some people getting together to hoot and holler about that cause.

What would Woody Guthrie think about all these fascists?

#103- In the end, it's always the pedestrians who obey traffic laws who end up the worst for wear.

I worry more about asshole cyclists than asshole drivers. Why? It's easier for a cyclist to get away redhanded than it is a driver, so fuck you very much.

The Edge, my my, such aggression. Do you have some repressed anger because you never learned to ride a bike?

Exactly what is it you think the cyclists are trying to "get away with"? Enjoying themselves? Making a living? Going to work? Trying not to get killed?

Everyone who uses the streets or the sidewalks is an opportunist so don't kid yourself. Rudeness abounds at every turn from every kind of person. I think you've got hate for the bikers because they've got more balls than you.

Everyone else has already said it: this is unbelievable. I commute by bicycle and I'm starting to wonder - how pervasively does the animus that the police harbor toward Critical Mass riders extend to the bicycle riding population in general?

It's not just examples like the above, which appears on it's face to be police brutality. I'm talking about: looking the other way when cars are double parked in bike lanes, reporting accidents in biased ways ('bike swerved in front of car'), and so on - little things that add up.

From now on, I'll be taking a lot less for granted when I'm on my bike.

climbgod - when are where exactly did you witness a CM ride, cause i'd wager decent money on the fact that you've never actually been near one and like most of your claims, are pulling this one firmly out of your own anus.

like i said repeatedly, i don't ride in or support critical mass and see it as counterproductive and serving no useful purpose. it allows cyclists to feel temporarily empowered by their numbers, and like most power (cough*cops*cough) this power is abused at the expense of others. however, unlike you i am a rational human being that recognizes that in the long run, the 10 minutes longer some people wait in traffic is inconsequential and in no way warrants anyone being arrested or physically injured.

you can keep being a small minded nitwit and blame 'those darn high falutin' folks with their fancy college learnin' for what essentially is a non-issue that in no way effects your overall life, but all you're going to do is drive yourself to an early and unhappy grave. go get some exercise and work on the blood pressure.

Wow, there's a lot of bicycle hating out there! Can't believe the justification for police brutality for running a red light. Riding a bike is not a criminal activity. Neither is running a red light - it's a traffic infraction. What would happen if that was a pedestrian jay walking?

Weatherman

"Everyone who uses the streets or the sidewalks is an opportunist so don't kid yourself. Rudeness abounds at every turn from every kind of person."

EVERY EVERY EVERY

You must really get around on that 2 wheeler to be so sure about all of us. Stay safe.

the edge - "I worry more about asshole cyclists than asshole drivers. Why? It's easier for a cyclist to get away redhanded than it is a driver, so fuck you very much."

seriously? try looking up the number of hit and runs cars have been involved in that have resulted in severe injuries and death recently. they are in the news paper just about every day.

#105- So you're saying then, that it's okay for cyclists to clip pedestrians who have right of way?

Lord knows that NEVER happens.

'Cause all cyclists obey all traffic laws at all times.

Always.

#103- In the end, it's always the pedestrians who obey traffic laws who end up the worst for wear.

i agree. it's a bit off-topic, but sometimes when i try to cross at the stop sign near my apt, cars try to hit me. they stop, i begin walking, they go. makes no sense.

Ok, let's say for the sake of argument that this guy had done a circle around the block, and that the previous time around he had run down a pedestrian right in front of that exact same cop, been ordered to stop, and had biked away. Pretend that he was guilty of a serious crime and that that cop had witnessed him and could identify him without any doubt at a glance.

Even then, this would not be justified.

Watch the video. The cop who tackles this guy does not order him to stop, and keeps his hands at his waist to disguise his assault until the last second.

I've been stopped by a cop while biking before, and it's really easy to do it properly. You hold out your hand in a "stop" motion and yell at the biker to stop and/or pull over. This cop has plenty of time to do that, but from the video it's clear that he doesn't yell for the biker to stop or make a hand signal for him to stop. What he does do is keep his hands at his waist so his attack is a surprise to the biker.

He looks like the cop is walking to the curb, and the biker is obviously trying to ride around him, turning his bike towards the curb well before he gets to the cop. He isn't trying to escape from the cop, otherwise he would have picked up speed or done some more extreme maneuvering. All he does is try to steer around the cop, aiming for the empty space between the cop and the curb. The biker starts trying to straighten up his line and ride parallel to the curb only once he seems to be clear of the cop, at which point he's assaulted.

Even assuming that this guy needed to be arrested for some earlier crime, this is quite clearly an assault, and not an arrest.

"CM does have a purpose however. The purpose is to not be complacent about bicycle rights and safety in NYC, and to use many voices to bring awareness to those things."

If it's purpose is to not be complacent about bicycle rights and safety, why the hell is this douche riding his bike without a helmet?

My guess is that the victim said something to the cop that the cop didn't like, thus the reaction. I'm not saying it justifies the action the cop took, of course, but I think there's got to be SOME explanation.

#110- What makes a better story? Someone gets run over by a car or someone who eats a shoulder in the face from a cyclist?

@rojedejong

The NYDMV in their official driver training manual tells drivers to steer well clear of bicyclists and to slow down while passing. "Be aware that the bicyclist...who is near or in front of you may react to road hazards just as a motorcyclist would, by suddenly changing speed, direction or lane position."

The NYDMV further states, " Check your vehicle's 'blind spots' before you make a turn, parallel park, open a door, or leave a curb... turn you head to look for a bicyclist...approaching."

The NYDMV also says road rage includes, "Cutting off another vehicle, extremely close tailgating, blocking another vehicle, including a bicycle from using a traffic lane..." How many times have you been the victim of road rage?

The Edge - How about stories about how often a cyclist hits a pedestrian who is jay walking and walks out in the street in front of a cyclist without looking? Happens all the time, because pedestrians look out for cars but not bikes. I'm not saying it doesn't happen that cyclists are at fault for hitting pedestrians. I know it does. I know cyclists who intentionally aim to scare pedestrians. I know some who love brushing a pedestrian back onto the curb.

I also know that riding a bike in Manhattan is a block by block battle to avoid pedestrians crossing against the light and absolutely paying no attention to cyclists, then getting upset at the cyclist when they almost get hit. My point however is that it is ridiculous to say you're more concerned about cyclists, who may startle or at worst bruise you, than cars which kill and maim people regularly.

The Edge, what the hell are you talking about? Do you have any real opinion about this or are you just being reactionary?

Cyclists should not ever try to run down pedestrians. Agreed. Cyclists don't always obey trafffic laws. I already said that. If conditions on the road were safer it would happen less. Some bikers are assholes, just like some pedestrians ignore crossing lights and get in the way of drivers, just like some drivers think they own the road and end up killing bikers.

To someone else's point, bikers really are better off wearing helmets. Hard to argue that, but I bet that guy didn't think he'd get laid out by a cop when he left the house that day.

since this has turned into a big free-for-all of complaning about cyclists, drivers, and pedestrians, i'd like to address another dick move that i call pedestrian creep. You're driving across an avenue with a green light, of course, and at the intersection on the other side, people who CANNOT SPARE 2 SECONDS have stepped off of the sidewalk and into the street, forming an excruciatingly tight fence of people through which you must navigate you car or be held responsible for killing a pedestrian (who was 4 feet into the road when he didn't have the light). This is of course worst in population-dense parts of the city with heavy foot traffic such as midtown and washington heights. this drives me UP A WALL.

I'd also be willing to bet that a lot of bicycle accidents happen in a situation like this: you're crossing sixth avenue around 46th street. The wave of cars goes by and a mass of dozens of people begin the jaywalk across the street. HOwever, as typically happens, there is a cyclist that lags slightly behind the last car in the wave, but still has the right of way. He has to navigate a huge group of people who are all jaywalking. if he's going fast, he may have his head down for a second, not realizing that despite his green light, it's AS IF he is running a red.

in short, drivers, bikers, and pedestrians all do inconsiderate things, and there's little point in arguing about who's worst.

Guaranteed blockbusters for commenters at gothamist: race issues, the MTA, or bicycles.

Some mad genius needs to find a story that combines all three.

OK mrguy, now you're talking. Well said.

immerc, if a hypothetical biker ran someone down, already once refused a police order to stop and then came back around the same street -- or if he was guilty of some other "serious crime" -- then the cop's actions were perfectly appropriate. Actually, he should have tased him instead or maybe something even more severe. He should just put his hand up and say stop to someone who already didn't stop when told to the first time? I love how everyone thinks they can do a cop's job better.

Either way, while the cop was probably wrong and probably overreacted to a smartass comment or something, if it was going to happen to someone I'm glad it was a Critical Asshat biker like that. Maybe I'll organize a few hundred car or scooter or wheelchair riders and take over the streets once a month with total disregard for traffic laws and my fellow New Yorkers and see how people react.

thankfully Pb is still cheap. your 9mm vs. my whatever. smooth and crunchy with bananas.

Don't forget Graffitti and Street Art Jerk Store.

Best comment goes to Jerk Store...right on the money

Anyone think the rider might have said "watch out, pig" or something like that to which the cop took an unhealthy exception to? That's sure what it seems like to me because if the cop was trying to stop him out of recognition, don't you think he would have, I dunno, ASKED him to stop first?

Headless Governor Found Nude in Subway Sewage

Print it!

Critical Mass cannot continue to break traffic laws, run red lights, and surround and attack helpless motorists as they have been doing.

Besides the guy in the Subaru who got the crap beat out of him by a gang of critical massholes, Here is a video of them attacking an elderly couple with handicapped plates in San Francisco..as a group they surrounded the van, started beating on it, rocking it and terrorizing the drivers. They climbed on the windshield, kicked it in, ripped off the wiper, AND FILMED IT. They got caught massively editing the film to make themselves look good, but the news guys figured out that they were being scammed. Here is the vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1eReGrbzkA

These critical massholes have got to be stopped...they are getting worse and worse in the NWest..and I've been a cyclist for a long time, and can't stand what CM is doing to cycling..

While we're off-topic on traffic peeves, there should be a special fine for this scenario:

A: Pedestrians in crosswalk, crossing with light

B: Car 1 waiting for them to pass before turning right

C: Dingbat behind Car 1, honking like a dingbat

Did that guy have an uneaten donut in his hand? I've never seen a NYC cop move that fast. Especially, when the cop let about 30 pass him before he picked out this guy.

Desk duty does not mean suspended.

@ Tkaisen:

who cares if he did call him a swine? does that justify the cops reaction? have you not lived in the city long enough to see people screaming obscenitites at cops all the time? does the cop usually beat them violently to the ground?

Nice follow up.

To those who think the cop was responding to a comment. No way. The cop was already teeing up his cross-check to time it with a random target he selected across the street. If he was responding to a comment, by the time the biker was in earshot, the cop would really have to hustle to get a good angle. You can see he starts preparing for the hit while the biker is still (though, unknown) distance down the block, for for the timing and speed, i don't think an insult could've happened.

Beside, if i want to insult a cop, i sure as hell am going to wait til AFTER i pass him.

120, your dead on, people jay walk across a green light without even looking over if they know there are no more cars coming. When I'm walking around I make it a point to watch for cars and bikes. Also I'm glad there is an update to this story. After the investigation I hope the fire his ass.

UPDATE: The AP is reporting that the police officer in the video has been stripped of his badge and gun and the NYPD has "placed the unidentified officer on desk duty pending the outcome of a department investigation."

Guilty until proven innocent.

"Guilty until proven innocent."

yeah, edEx, that's pretty much what the cop was thinking. endanger first, ask questions later.

Ok, at first I had the same thought, freaking a-hole what is that cop doing?
But then I watched it again and i noticed the guy had a guitar around his back. Do you think viewing him from the front, and because the cyclist was moving, the cop thought it was a gun and asked him to stop, and the guy didn't for whatever reason (maybe he couldn't hear or it was too fast, or he didn't want to stop) (this is theory)
Because it does defy logic that he would suddenly do that after standing there peaceably watching cyclists go by: AND, those two cops seemed to be scanning for what they have often referred to as "rogues" or "anarchists" whom they have claimed in the past, have "infiltrated" CM. (I am not arguing whether their assumptions are correct, only what their current actions display).
The video does not give an accurate view of the cop's face or mouth, and you cannot hear anything he is saying either.
Nor is the remainder of the video shown. Was the videographer asked to stop, or did they cut it intentionally because of what followed?
If you have info about these points, please send them

edEx, you've seen the video. What else do you think this investigation needs to consist of?

Times Up for the NYPD's childish and expensive vendetta against Critical Mass to stop. Or at least the NYPD could start being transparent about how much money they've spent over the past four years playing their games. Helicopters, masses of officers, vans, and scooters are billed to NYC taxpayers once a month over this nonsense and the people who pay the bill don't get to see how much it is.

Hahaha, suspended..... I hope that cop's wife is very, very proud of him....

Hotvelogirl, that's a messenger bag. You can see in the slow motion that there's no neck so it's not a guitar. I think it only looks like a guitar for a sec b/c it's blurry and b/c of the angle of the cops arm when it's behind the cyclist from the POV of the camera.

Patrick Pogan - Either a bully at school or bullied at school.

One way or another, the NYPD policy toward Critical Mass is going to change. They can keep doing what they're doing or even ramp it up, and the city will continue to lose money on police pay, gas, legal bills and lawsuit settlements. The more NYPD pushes, the more the bicyclists will work around them. They can't win. Or they can calm down and try to work with Critical Mass, even if nobody is officially in charge of the event. Imagine how much easier it could be for everybody if the cops just calmly directed traffic with no bad attitude. Bystanders are less inconvenienced, bicyclists will be happier and cops won't look like total pricks. It's a win-win-win solution.

Story was just on WCBS. Officer Pogan claims the cyclist was obstructing traffic and tried to run him down.

In that case, my eyes must be deceiving me because the video clearly shows Pogan moving towards the cyclist who then tries to go around Pogan before he is violently shoved off his bike.


-edEx

seriously. would you want a cop like that patrolling the very streets you walk on?

Cop: "You walked funny" *WHAMMMM*.

everyone should dig this article as much as they can. this needs to see the light of day.

mr. bloomberg, do you seriously want cops like this guy patrolling the streets of NYC?

i hope the biker gets a lawyer and sues the living pants off the NYPD.

what kind of name is Pogan? is it pronounced like "Rogan" or like "Pagan"?
We know where Patrick came from.

Virgil (130) said: "While we're off-topic on traffic peeves, there should be a special fine for this scenario:

A: Pedestrians in crosswalk, crossing with light

B: Car 1 waiting for them to pass before turning right

C: Dingbat behind Car 1, honking like a dingbat"

D: Traffic cop motioning and screaming at car 1 to turn, in spite of numerous pedestrians currently crossing in the crosswalk.

Sadly, it's a situation I see nearly every day as I cross West Side Highway in Lower Manhattan.

This article is already everywhere - thankfully - on the front homepages of NY Daily News, Post, and on the Times site too.

"Do you think viewing him from the front, and because the cyclist was moving, the cop thought it was a gun and asked him to stop, and the guy didn't for whatever reason (maybe he couldn't hear or it was too fast, or he didn't want to stop)"

Nope, I don't that's possible. It looks pretty clearly like what someone suggested earlier: the cops are in the middle of the street talking, he started walking over to the sidewalk as most of the group had passed. A few stragglers going by, he was irritated that they were going in front of him (though leaving him plenty of room), and just decided to exert his "authority" on one of those who were offending him.

Why? Probably just because he was sent out there to keep tabs on these people, therefore they are the enemy.

22 year old rookie, figures. Kid gets a badge and a gun and goes on a power trip...who would have known?

=)

I don't think this story can be sweep under the rug like most other similiar cases. =)

I participated in the CM ride in late May. The cops did the same shit. They warn you for running lights and not wearing lights on your light. So by the end of the ride, most people were obeying the laws. That didn't stop the cops. When we approached 42nd and 6th ave, they did the same shit as happened in the video. A bunch of cops literally just tackled bikers. It was violent. They didn't care if you were violating the traffic laws or not. I haven't participated in a CM ride since b/c I don't want to get jumped like that guy and spend a day in jail.

Cops are losers.

I am being attacked for what exactly?

I have said in numerous posts above, #26, #43 and #63 that the cop is guilty, in my opinion. My last post, prior to this one, #137, states guilty until proven innocent what that means is, he has been charged, tried and convicted on this thread. Even the NYPD stripped him of his badge and gun. In this world, that is all guilty until proven innocent. He will be tried, and more or less quietly removed from the force or put on a probation.

Most of us here know he's guilty, he is. 80 seconds of video proves this. He is guilty of excessive force. He wasn't about to be run over, he gained momentum and rammed the bicyclist and now he's paying for it. His name will be tarnished and since he's a rookie, there's no loss, he has no long standing credentials and I'm sure there will be a good reporter who investigates his past life, which is probably filled with anger and fighting and quite possibly trouble with the law in his younger pre 18-years-old years.

I'll say it again, he's cooked.

Now would a good time talk about Police raises - what a thug - its hillarious they charged the biker with ASSAULT. What a JOKE this city is. Freedom my ass

#148, I think I have been clear in my previous posts (did you read the whole thread?) that I do not want douche bag cops like this one patrolling the streets.

does that justify the cops reaction?

Did I say it did? I'm actually curious to hear his side of it. It would have to be really, really good to justify what he did.

If the same video existed where Joe Q. Citizen did the exact same thing to a NYPD bike cop, at minimum he would be charged with assault. I don't think people realize how dangerous pushing someone off a bike is, it's pretty easy to crack your skull that way. I'm glad this was caught on video, because that officer does not have the correct temperament for this job.

@Spirit of 76 - That's one of the most reasonable things in this thread. The police were absolutely great at the pre RNC Critical Mass rides, then after the protest ride things went downhill very quickly. I stopped riding at CM shortly after that because of all the dangerous shenanigans going on. They were friendly, helped out with traffic and some of them thought it was a pretty cool event. How we went from that to this in a few years is scary.

The traffic calming rides in BK are a pleasure and the cops are great, and there are no major issues.

Can somebody let me know what the PROBLEM is with the Ciritcal Mass rides to begin with? I don't understand.

The problem Novanglus is that, just as emilydickinson said:

The police were absolutely great at the pre RNC Critical Mass rides, then after the protest ride things went downhill very quickly. I stopped riding at CM shortly after that because of all the dangerous shenanigans going on. They were friendly, helped out with traffic and some of them thought it was a pretty cool event. How we went from that to this in a few years is scary.

After critical mass decided to protest the rnc, the cops saw it as some kind of betrayal & decided to come down hard on them, but because of their past history of cops actually helping CM, the judges said that CM doesn't need a permit, so now the pigs pull this kind of crap & it has been effective

Now THERE is the kind of Cop I LOVE to read about in the paper or see on the news that gets SHOT in the line of duty. Cops like that deserve a bullet. Scumbags.

JT
Ultimate Anonymity

I think that what the cop did is VERY wrong and he should be punished, but there is NO case where pushing someone off of a bike deserves to die.

For that, I would like to shoot YOU, Jimmydodam.

I also don't see why these guys would need a permit for riding their bikes legally.

I'm no fan of critical mass and don't think cycling in the city should be encouraged because it's dangerous for everyone concerned.

HOWEVER, this video is pretty shocking. It's hard to interpret in any way except that the cop goes out of his way to push the cyclist. Although I'd like to think that the cop was provoked -- maybe the cyclist spit at him or yelled something-- based on the speed that the cyclist is moving, it just doesn't seem like that's the case. Not that it would excuse what happened, but at least if there was some provocation there would be some context for it. So, as much as I think critical mass are a bunch of asshats, I gotta side with them on this one.

the police officer in the video has been stripped of his badge and gun and the NYPD has "placed the unidentified officer on desk duty pending the outcome of a department investigation." good.

I'm quite amused by the people here trying to find an excuse for the cop's behavior. Let me give you a better one: this stuff comes from the top, or it would have been stopped a long time ago.

Same thing with such crimes as Driving While Black, or Walking While Latino.

The cop's only mistake, as far as his "superiors" are concerned, was getting caught on camera.

This assault does more to damage the NYPD than budget cuts, strikes, and anything else they and their police union can contrive or disapprove of. If I was the Commissioner, I would rather have no cops out on the street than to have them behave like this. The problem is simply that the NYPD has way too many officers and that talent pool is terribly depleted. Fewer cops=better trained cops.

Nice NYPD! That one's gonna cost you another few million, at least.
And the NYPD wonders why people hate their guts???

The thing that amazes me most is that people seem surprised by the fact that cops behave in this manner. Haven't you people seen enough evidence that many many cops are nothing more than bullies who are given a bit of power and run wild with it. Patrick Pogan filed an entirely false report against the rider, making fabricated allegations... and you know what!? He would have totally gotten away with it, as many cops do, if it hadn't been on video!

as finally mentioned above, this comes from the top.
finally the press is pointing out the resources spent every month on this and only to have charges dismissed. Only now this is going to cost us again.
hey, city comptroller, do an audit on costs related to Critical Mass.

dont shove me bro, dont shove me

And what about the other cop who witnessed the assault and STILL helped to charge and falsely imprison the victim? We keep HOPING that corrupt, thug cops are in the minority but "New York's finest" stick together like the stinking shit they are made from.

I feel physically sick that this happened and that I even live in this city. Bloomberg will do nothing as usual.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? If you want it to stop, write to Bloomberg and the New York papers. If you want it to happen to you, do nothing.

Unfortunately for Pogan, he was born in the wrong era. Not only is everything caught on digital cameras, camcorders and cameraphones nowadays, it all lives forever somewhere on the Internet, including the news reports and blog postings. He's going to have this incredibly stupid and reckless act shadowing him for the rest of his life. His law enforcement career is over, and not just in NYPD. No police department in the country will risk having a disgraced cop connected to them.

One would think the young people his age who grew up with the Net would understand this. There's no hiding from your public image now, so you'd better be careful what gets out there. Boomers and Generation X to some extent still had anonymity and privacy, but not twentysomethings in today's ultraconnected world.

I have no sympathy for critical mass bikers. I support their cause but mob-mentality breaks out in the best of groups. They can be ruthless to anything in their path. As a pedestrian i have been hit by a bike before during their romps around the city. Let it be known that I've also been a part of the ride also. Most people are very nice, but there are definitely some aggro people in the mix.

I'm probably in the minority, but I have no idea why there's such tension between the CM riders and the NYPD. Doesn't seem impossible that they be able to coexist peacefully.

Despite some people who believe the officer would never act in such a way without reason, clearly, he had no idea that he was being filmed, or else he wouldn't have lied thusly:

The (criminal) complaint said Long, 29, deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to fall to the ground.

This, obviously, would not hold up given the video...

good thing the cyclist wasn't black! he'd have got shot 50 times and no one would get convicted!

#175 - the cops and CM riders peacefully coexist in many cities, and even do so in Brooklyn. The second Friday of each month CM meets at Grand Army Plaza and receives a police escort.

I think the partner who assisted in this should also be disciplined, not just Pogan. He went along with the whole thing, after all.

That's good to know. The cops and cyclists in Manhattan obviously need to calm down, have a couple beers together, and work out their differences.

>During his arrest, Long squirmed and kicked, saying to the >officers, ''You are pawns in the game. I'm gonna have your job,'' >the complaint said.

Ha. How right he will be......

Any guesses on the $ amount of the future lawsuit that will be settled by the city attorney???

That's why they are called PIGS!

3rd generation pig.

His dad defended him (he used to be on the Joint Terrorism Task Force) by saying, "these people are taking over the streets and impeding the flow of traffic. Then you gotta do what you gotta do".

Oink!

This pig he’s a big punk
And I know that he can’t stand the sight of me
’cause pigs don’t like it when ya act smart
And when ya tell ’em that you’re a group from society

Look at the video again.
Look at the partner.

The partner isn't really doing anything. Just walking, not running, to the left.
There's no sense of urgency.
Come to your own conclusions.

This might be a photo of Patrick Pogan and his fiance on her private myspace account:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=12235023

Some more googling reveals that he played a bit of football for CW Post. Now we know where he learned how to be an a**hole...that and his old man of course.

to all those that are arguing about the context of this video as if there might be some mitigating reason that justifies the violent behavior of the police then I have to say you are morons. I'm sure most of you have the long-term memory of a mosquito and don't remember the Haitian immigrant that was sodomized with a broomstick WHILE in NYPD custody. Police brutality is becoming more and more common nowadays and it sickens me to see what our society is becoming where a small minority still have the the courage to stand up for their rights while the majority of "sheeple" just turn their eyes away and pretend they saw nothing while hired "thugs" wearing badges and guns use violence to intimidate the masses. Tyranny is right around the corner people so wake the hell up!

Oh this story gets better, the biker was a US Army veteran according to his boss at the green market!

I don't get it. These guys do not follow traffic laws, and are riding extremely fast with no regards for pedestrians.

Maybe the office shouldn't have pushed him to the ground. Just take out the nightstick, hold it at the level of the cyclist's neck, and let velocity do the rest.

The officers take down a lawbreaker. Big deal. What else is new? Now you're going to get that fat (no curses!) Al Sharpton involved. Great.

PEDESTRIANS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY BOOOOOYA!!!

spiritof76
you say "Imagine how much easier it could be for everybody if the cops just calmly directed traffic with no bad attitude. Bystanders are less inconvenienced, bicyclists will be happier and cops won't look like total pricks."

Funny you should bring that up. What you described is exactly what happens when you get a parade permit. Parade permits are a good idea when you are planning a large event which is likely to be disruptive to foot and auto traffic. However, critical mass doesn't like parade permits, and inasmuch as you can ascribe any philosophy to the random group of people that shows up for each one, we can probably say that critical mass is actively opposed to the idea of parade permits:
http://bikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/smolka-retires-and-nypd-publishes-new.html

i came out pretty strong asking people to withhold judgement until more facts were known about this case, mostly because i didn't think a cop could be that stupid and thuggish in front of so many people. it'm followingg the developments tonight with great interest.

BINGOBUDDY's got the right idea. Let's start bashing the faces of all these uppity white people!

"Even the NYPD striped him of his badge and gun. In this world, that is all guilty until proven innocent. He will be tried, and more or less quietly removed from the force or put on a probation."

Being "stripped of his badge and gun" is routine during an investigation, while a cop is on "modified duty." Basically it means he's working away from the public while IA determines what course to take.

If he's found to be in violation (which seems pretty likely) he won't be put on probation. He's a rookie, which means he's already on probation. He'll at the least be out of a job, and likely will face charges... because the PBA isn't too worried about a rookie taking some heat.

"This might be a photo of Patrick Pogan and his fiance on her private myspace account:"

Really? Pogan's fiancee calls herself "the future Mrs. Romano" on myspace. OK, that seems pretty unlikely but... OK, this guy's life really is a mess.

Anyway, thinking about this a little more, that's the Midtown North precinct, which doesn't get many rookies (it's a plum assignment). It's probably the case that because of the Critical Mass ride he was working OT there while actually assigned to another precinct, but if that is his actual post the guy has some connections. Run-of-the-mill rookies don't get The North.

Ah, just saw the comment above that states that he's a third-generation cop. That could explain a Midtown North assignment... family has some NYPD juice.

Could explain the apparent sense of entitlement, too.

Jayclay - searching for "pogan" on myspace brings up her profile right on top. He's from Massapequa, she's from Massapequa, and she is nearly the same age as Patrick Pogan (23, 22 respectively)....the coincidence is there. I could be very wrong of course.

Well jibbly, you did say "might be..." but her calling herself somebody else's "future Mrs." makes me think it's unlikely.

Anyway, the comments from people who can't believe a cop would do this without provocation show me a real naivite about the police mindset. A cop's training brings a different view of violence from that of the average citizen. On the job you are dealing with violence every day... either it's directed at your, or you are dealing with the effects of it having been directed at someone else, or you're thinking about its potential in a particular situation, or you're deciding how to mete it out. It really becomes not that big a deal. In the cop mindset, violence is much like it is in the mindset of the typical thug. Just an unavoidable fact of life.

On top of that, anyone involved in demonstrations or civil disobedience is creating a problem. It doesn't matter what you might do or who you might be in the rest of your life, when you're committing civil disobedience you are someone who has to be dealt with, not just a regular citizen who can be ignored.

People talk about vets coming back from war and how it changes their thinking as compared to where it was when they were back home, and tend to recognize and accept it. Same thing happens in the police hivemind.

A couple of points:

1) "like CM give us a bad name. what exactly is the point of these rides anyway? They are disruptive."

Are you some grumpy old man who wants the damn kids off his lawn? That's fine. But they're not on your lawn, and their rights to peaceably assemble are guaranteed by the First Amendment.

2)what about the 2nd cop in the video? It's not clear if he is in cahoots with Pogan, but did he report Pogan's actions? (that's rhetorical).

P.S. I should add that Critial Mass riders should obey traffic regulations, and have no problem with the cops ticketing any of the riders who don't.

That ain't what happened here. The cop in his own sworn testimony to the cyclist's arrest, didn't even claim it was.

he ran the red light, simple as that.

What cops usually do when they assault someone is charge them with assault and "resisting arrest." Cops will beat up a person, and then charge them with assault. It's that simple, everything they did then becomes "self-defense." It's just that simple. Imagine if this video did not exist, how would Long defend himself against all the charges? Maybe one, but all of them? How can he prove he wasn't engaging in "disorderly conduct?" Read the posts, even with this video, people are going to blame him for what happened, because cops are always right. And, of course, the fact that this kind of thing happens time and time again NEVER impacts on the impression that cops are basically trustworthy. In a he-said-she-scenario the cop is still always going to win, but this kind of assault and arrest intimidation is a daily occurrence.

The fundamental assertion of rights coming from Critical Mass is that they have an equal right to use of the streets. This is in conflict with the principle of privilege asserted by motorists, especially drivers of private cars, that they have a superior right to use of the streets. It is a civil rights issue: equal rights versus privilege.

The next time you're being mugged, call a cyclist.

notice the future mrs. romano is in quotes, could be a comedic reference to the ultimate in LI WT, everybody loves raymond.

Well, as a city taxpayer, and a former underwriter of Police Liability, this clown should be fired. The city will be writing the cyclist a big check. As a taxpayer, I will be angry if the city legal dept contests this in anyway. Write him a check, and apologize. A brazen, hostile act of brutality. This clown, 3rd generation cop or not, should not be in any position of authority. He should be in jail for assault with intent to cause serious bodily harm. His father needs to shut up in the press, every time you open your mouth, you are hurting your punk kid. Thats right, retired Detective, your newly minted cop son is nothing but a punk.

"Well jibbly, you did say "might be..." but her calling herself somebody else's "future Mrs." makes me think it's unlikely."

in real life, ray romano's brother is NYPD. it's an in-joke.

NYPD cop vs. United States Veteran,
let's see how this pans out.

What on earth would you be waiting on line with a hipster for at 79th and Roosevelt? A taco? The bus?

Don't be too quick to judge. Video does not show the whole story. This guy could have been flipping him off the entire way down the road, yell derogatory things. Video only shows what it shows...

Delos - if you bothered to read any of the news reports you would see the video shows all there is to see. The police report filed by the very same officer contradicts the video evidence.

READ BEFORE YOU POST AND STOP SPREADING FUD.

"Video does not show the whole story. This guy could have been flipping him off the entire way down the road, yell derogatory things"

Apparently you haven't watched the video, because that's clearly not the case, but what if he was? Under what legal principle would that justify the resulting assault?

If he knocked me off my bike I'm afraid I'd be arrested...for assault.

Yes, Bongo, what were you and your hipster friend waiting in line for on 73rd and Roosevelt?

Next time you're being mugged, call a cyclist...at least they won't push you over.

What I see....is the video only shows the cop knocking the cyclist off the bike, and doesn't show what the cyclist did that led up to this incident.

The cyclist OBVIOUSLY did something wrong, and was told to stop. It's also obvious he KNEW he was supposed to stop, as he swerves completely to the left side of the street, trying to slip past the cop. This is called 'evasion', or 'failure to stop' and is another crime, in and of itself!

It only takes one bad apple to ruin the bunch, & people like this guy and those that support him, give the rest of us a bad name.

Many of you don't seem to know what a police officer is, so I'll explain it to you. Policmen enforce the law. If they have reasonable suspicion that you've committed a crime, they CAN STOP YOU, and have the legal authority to do so. If you refuse to stop, you're committing another crime!

Here's a tip: If you want your CM ride to be successful, make it a point amongst the riders to obey the laws, be non-confrontational, and treat the police and everyone else, the way you would want to be treated.

this has roid rage written all over it...

As a taxpaying citizen of the Big Apple, I feel cheated that after laying out the big bucks training this bright promising young rookie in the art of committing police brutality on the citizen(s) of his random choice, only 3 weeks outta graduation he goes and fergets the most important lesson of all: THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT THY TRANSGRESSIONS OF GRATUITOUS POLICE BRUTALITY IN FRONT OF A LIVE CAMERA, FOOL!... There goes all my hard earned tax payer investment pissed away in the blink of a camera's eye ... Now he's only qualified to serve society flapping flipjacks at Jack-in-the-Box. And neither do I cotton to shelling out for the 6 figure law suit he's just saddled all us lowly taxpayers with neither.
And hows about a great big hand for the quick thinking Critical-Mass cyclist swooping instantly down and opportunistically scooping up the fallen bike and casually peddling away with the hard criminal evidence right out from under the rookie's and his faithful sidekick's noses and 4 eyes.. DUH!!

City Smasher says: "The cyclist OBVIOUSLY did something wrong, and was told to stop. It's also obvious he KNEW he was supposed to stop"

This may be obvious to you, but I don't think that's something that can be ascertained from the video.

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, however.

Then why does his police report say nothing of this. If what you say is true, the police report should say, "I ordered the cyclist to stop. He did not comply, so I disabled him"

Instead, it has BS about the cyclist deliberately trying to drive his bicycle into the officer... and more BS about both the cyclist and officer being brought to the ground from the collision.

The rookie should be fired for falsiflying a police report, plain and simple. Whatever led up to it is not relevant.

Randomdilemma says: "This may be obvious to you, but I don't think that's something that can be ascertained from the video".

Then watch the video again.

Randomdolemma says: "The rookie should be fired for falsiflying (sic) a police report, plain and simple. Whatever led up to it is not relevant."

Are you kidding, me?? This incident occurred, BECAUSE of what led up to it!

What led up to it is a matter of he said/he said. You claim to see some crime that occurred off-camera, for example. You claim to see some indication that the officer told the cyclist to stop. The cyclist will claim that neither occurred. The video corrobates neither side's claim.

What is not a matter of he said/he said is that the OFFICER LIED in the police report. That is a matter of he said/video shows otherwise. He should be fired because of that.

Whether the officer is wrong or not for pushing the cyclist off the bike is a matter of debate. Lying about the event is not. FIRE HIM.

In msg [223] City_Smasher sez:
"What I see....is the video only shows the cop knocking the cyclist off the bike, and doesn't show what the cyclist did that led up to this incident.
The cyclist OBVIOUSLY did something wrong, and was told to stop"

Dear City_Smasher,
Ye seems to have it all diametrically backwards. While the video does show the rookie knocking the cyclist off the bike, it Doth NOT show the cyclist doing anything leading up to this incident except peddling along with the flow. From the video, it is certainly NOT "OBVIOUSLY" that the cyclist did something wrong. That is only wild conjecture on the part your desperately fertile imagination.

From the very first frame in which the cyclist in question first appears, the video shows him doing nothing except lawfully peddling along with the flow. Contrary to what you claim is obvious, it is NOT obvious to me that the rookie told the cyclist to stop or attempted in any way to communicate with the approaching cyclist, neither by yelling, bellowing, arm waving, or finger gesturing. What I do see is the rookie, without any prior warning, deliberately barging recklessly right into the path of the closely approaching cyclist who attempts to steer a collision avoidance swerve away from the collision-intent rookie and towards the curb. But the nearing proximity of the curb forces the cyclist to swerve slightly back to parallel the road due to the need to avoid running smack into the impending curbside.

Though the rookie did not indicate so in his filed written report, it is conceivable that the rookie might've rcvd radio comm ordering ahead to stop and detain an approaching white cyclist, wearing white shirt, black shorts, no helmet, and of whatever facial features, if any. But the video shows several other preceding cyclists fitting that general description all of whom the rookie showed no interest in scrutinizing. It doesn't appear that the rookie and his pardner were scrutinizing the faces of the dozens and dozens of cyclists as they approached and whizzed by in the not well-illuminated street, not even the criminalized cyclist. In fact, the rookie appears to have firmly decided on precisely whom to violently bodyslam down to the pavement when the cherry picked cyclist is still quite a distance away for positive ID.

So, my dear rookie Sherlock City_Smasher,
tis obvious that tis NOT as obvious as ye have hastily jumped to concluding.

Dilemma, I never claimed to see a crime that occurred off camera, as you've stated.

I do have some basic observational skills and common sense, that apparently you don't possess.

In making false statements about what I've previously stated, you've stripped yourself of all credibility. A good analogy....is that of a child who lies to their parents, and then they can't be believed, anymore.

By doing this you sound desperate to 'argue' your point, whether you're right or wrong. Thus, I'm not responding to anymore of your posts. You've demonstrated to me that your POV is a complete waste of time....(ahem) a complete waste!


City Smasher: ok.. then take your ball home to mommy... waah!

You seem to selectively read what I say. I'm saying that everything you suggest could very well be true!! But true or not, it doesn't matter because what is clear as day is that the officer STILL PERJURED himself.


In post 223 you acknowledge that the cyclist serves "completely to the left side of the street, trying to slip past the cop". I think that's clear to anyone who watches the video.

In the police report, the officer alleges that the cyclist intentionally collided with him.

That is falsification. And it is an incredible liability to the police force to keep someone on that does that.

Don't bother engaging City Smasher.

He's clearly a troll or just an idiot who doesn't understand that you're arguing "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up"

Gothical: You don't see the cops standing in the middle to right side of the street, while cyclist after cyclist after cyclist passes them by?

Yet when one specific cyclist comes down the street, you can see the cop on the left start moving toward him, OBVIOUSLY wanting him to stop. Then the cyclist tries to evade the cop, by veering all the way to the left side of the street, to slip by.

If he didn't do anything wrong, why didn't he just stop?? Hmmm!

Also, Thank you for the 'detective' compliment, I'm very flattered. Although I'm not a detective....I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

If he wanted him to stop, why didn't he say so? You can hear all sorts of talking on the video. You can even hear the sound the cop makes when he launches the biker off his bike. Why don't we hear the cop ever saying STOP!!

If he wanted him to stop, why didn't he point to the biker and then put his hand out? Instead, he just walked across the street hands at his side assuming that a person would know his intentions from his stare.

They hire pigs that meet a certain psych profile...that psych profile doesn't look for cops who will be like sherrif Taylor but rather they search for people like Barney Fife...bullies and people who get some sort of emotional/psychological thrill out of dominating people and imposing their will on others...

...cops in this country also are allowed to break nearly every law on the books in order to catch criminals...

Put these two things together and the resulting egregious, violent behavior is inevitable...its not just NYPD or LAPD...it happens all over the country in tiny towns where there are few video cameras and even fewer chances the pigs will be caught...

Pigs are pigs are pigs....fck the poe-leese...

reply to your msg [233]
dearest City_Smasher

Please describe for the jury, to the best of your ability,
precisely where and how in the video evidence
that thy heroic rookie cop didst order and communicate his
OBVIOUSLY lawful commandment to the oncoming,
OBVIOUSLY criminal, cyclist that
he "was OBVIOUSLY wanting him to STOP!!"

And please forgive my OBVIOUSLY distainful observation that thou art
OBVIOUSLY rather exceedingly loose and sloppy with thy
frivolous use of the adverb 'OBVIOUSLY'

Furthermore, if I may be so bold,
a word of OBVIOUSLY friendly advice:
Thank NOT those who would mock thee
for that twould OBVIOUSLY be evidence of pitiable self-loathing.
For density of IQ art not becoming.
And pity them who art so intellectually dense
that they canst so fail to perceive an
OBVIOUSLY sarcastic mockery of thy
OBVIOUSLY bumbling babble.

And verily, City_,
my llittle pair of talking parakeets often doth speaketh
more rationally than doth thou.

Wow Gothical, it took you 3 hours to come up with that gibberish?

You OBVIOUSLY....need to get a life!!

Bike riders are thought of as "kooks" by cops.

We lost the war protesters and now this.

I just gotta say, I'm having a really hard time respecting all the people who are making outrageous claims about what this biker COULD have done. You guys are superimposing your own ideas upon this situation and creating your own stories.

The fact of the matter is, we have this video, the police report, and more than a handful of witnesses. So you people who are claiming the biker murdered someone, then joined this ride, are idiots.

At least that case is closed.

Dear city_smashed,
My sincere apologies for inconsiderately
keeping you awaiting my belated reply but I had to go out
bicycling with friends. You weren't really glued to your
desktop breathlessly awaiting my reply were you? I do find that hard to believe.
Hmmm, perhaps it is you who should get a life?

Ahh but back to our friendly little chat, shall we?
Are you aware that your amusingly terse little
reply childishly avoided addressing the inconvenient question
for which you OBVIOUSLY have no facts, visual or otherwise,
to support your categorical
accusation that our cyclist is OBVIOUSLY guilty
of some criminal wrongdoing that you, and only you... and your
hero rookie, seem privy to?

So let me rephrase my question:
Please divulge to the jury of your peers, to the best of your
OBVIOUSLY limited ability, precisely where and how in the video,
evidence that thy heroic rookie cop did OBVIOUSLY order and
communicate his
OBVIOUSLY lawful command to the
OBVIOUSLY criminal cyclist that he "was
OBVIOUSLY wanting him to.. STOP!!"

Should you find yourself still incapable of addressing that
simple little question in support of your bold categorical declaration,
then I'm afraid you OBVIOUSLY have no choice but to consider yourself one who
shoots his OBVIOUSLY big mouth off before engaging his
OBVIOUSLY tiny little brain.. if it even not-so-OBVIOUSLY exists.

But frankly, City_,
though we're on a friendly first name basis,
your OBVIOUS total lack of intellect,
honest or otherwise,
is beginning to bore me to tears..
Perhaps we should say goodbye...
at least until you grow or
steal yourself an intellect implant.
Nonetheless, I shall forever be in your debt for introducing me
to the joys of inappropriately using your puerile little word
'OBVIOUSLY'.
That not withstanding, Shity,
don't call me, I'll call you.
Cain't say it ain't been fun.

Gothical, let's see. I ask you a question and you don't answer it. Instead you reply with a question.

Hmmm....are you trying to be evasive like the cyclist in the video?

Keep talking Gothical....someday you'll say something intelligent.

Here's another question for you. OBVIOUSLY you won't answer it, just like you didn't answer the previous one. Even so....Are your parents siblings?

The problem with City Smasher is he has drawn his own conclusion for the motive behind evasion.

Yes, it is clear the biker is trying to evade the cop. But wouldn't you try to evade anyone walking into your path. I do it everyday while walking. Often, I do it with police officers walking out of the precinct nearby. It one of them walks into my path, I walk around them. I guess according to City Smasher, it would be OBVIOUS that I did something wrong.

The cop issued no order to stop, why would the biker just not think he's trying to cross the street or get to the curb.

OBVIOUSLY, City Smasher is smoking a little something we aren't.

cops are total law-breaking douches, but so are bikers. i could care less for both. but i am happy that a) an self-righteous biker got assaulted. and b) cop is going to get fired

the critical mass ride parade is illegal. if i was driving behind them i probably would want to ram them over but the prison thing is probably going to hold me back. the cop did the job for me. thanks!

>Hmmm....are you trying to be evasive like the cyclist in the video?

Oh puh-leaze. The cop never once motions that he'd like the biker to stop. The biker is simply trying to go safely around a moving obstacle.

No doubt if he hadn't turned, the cop (and you), would be claiming that he was trying to run the cop over.

Every person on here who attempts to justify the cop's action - your smirk is apparent - even on here.

Let's cut the bullsh*t.

As someone else pointed out on here, this schmuck makes the job of all (good) cops harder.

This was "courtesy, professionalism, respect"?

Check out Huffington Post for a video of a guy getting the crap knocked out of him, while he's lying down on the sidewalk, by one of the other NYPD cops.
I think there are good cops, but I think they are rare, most a power mad thugs.

The problem with most posters on this thread, like Rhonda718, is tunnel vision.

You're biased, and only see what you want to see in favor of the cyclist.

If you can't tell when someone is making eye contact with you, & intentionally cutting you off while wearing a police uniform, then tell me....are you always so stupid, or is today a special occasion for you?

Hmm...it's OBVIOUS, you're stupid!

disgusting. have you ever ridden a bicycle in manhattan? do you understand momentum? anyone who stands with the cop on this has never ridden a bicycle. the guy wasn't wearing a helmet - why don't you slam into some 11 year old on a bike not wearing a helmet, see how far you get before getting tackled by a normal human being. as i say every single time on this forum: idiots.

Rarelement: Calling you stupid, would be an insult to stupid people!

So is that what they teach people in the police academy now?

Make eye contact with people to get them to stop?

Do you even re-read what you type? Or is it just a cranial diarrhea that goes right to your fingers?

Talk about OBVIOUS STUPIDITY!

Back when my husband was in the academy, he says they taught him to say loudly "STOP" and put his hand out.

and as far as being biased, yes, I admit that.

I am biased in favor of the police. My husband is one and my father-in-law is retired NYPD.

I will give the benefit of the doubt to the police over anyone. However, when common sense and simple observation show otherwise, I do not continue to blindly support them. You know what they say about a few bad apples.

We go on hoping all our days
For the prick of candor
From our church,
our government.

And bitterly we end our days,
disappointed by their failure
to speak with seriousness
to our modern, critical minds.

Your husband isn't a cop, Rhonda. That's OBVIOUS

As for common sense and simple observation....you've shown you have none, through the context of your posts.

You're like most of the other posters on here, making things up to argue in defense of the cyclist.

Your father in law is also not a cop....but I'll bet your mother has a loud bark. I think it's OBVIOUS, that we'd all like to see a video of that!

City_Smasher:

If he didn't do anything wrong, why didn't he just stop?? Hmmm!

If he did do something wrong, why was it not mentioned in the police report?

Oh wait, it was. Except it was a lie.

I can't wait for the NYPD to be trained to tell us to stop by mere telepathy. That will be useful. Of course, the telepathy will probably not work on minorities giving them the police the excuse "I told him telepathically to stop, he didn't, so I kicked the *#@$ out of him"

What I see at the very beginning of this video are all the cars stopped at the stop light to obey the law, while all the cyclists just keep going, running the light. I'm still not understanding why they weren't all stopped and ticketed for that alone.

Supposedly this video was submitted to youtube "annonymously", but now the "Time's Up!" organization is claiming they purchased it from a mysterious tourist for around $300, who only allowed them to copy a few small snippets? Oh come on already! The "Time's Up!" organization has been in lawsuits with the city for a number of years now over their involvement in these "critical masshole" events--they can hardly be considered "unbiased"! That whole story sounds so concocted and fishy to me that I have to wonder what else was on that tape they didn't want anyone else to see?

Maybe the tourists didn't want the rest of the their romp of NYC distributed to the general public?

I can't believe your unwillingness to believe your own eyes.

I'm not disagreeing with you completely. If the police wanted to, they are well within the law to ticket each and every one of them.

If that was their plan, all they need to do is give clear instructions to stop to the cyclists. Anyone who doesn't do that after being TOLD and signaled (this does not include their new telepathy nor eye contact methods), the NYPD can feel free to stop with more physical means. I think most reasonable persons would agree to that, and I'm pretty sure that NYPD standard operating procedure (giving everyone opportunity to stop after being clearly directed to do so)

Copy of the Actual Police Report as Filed by the Officer Involved:

" I was standing at my designated post in full uniform while on preventive crime patrol looking for any suspicious criminal activity when suddenly I was approached by a male subject mounted on a metallic contraption that was heading directly towards myself traveling at an extremely high rate of speed. I gestured politely for the individual to stop but instead he seemed to utter something about a bomb and then an incomprehensible gibberish that -at that time and with all the background noise- seemed to me like a phrase in Arabic while continuing straight towards me in a collision course reminiscent of the WTC attacks which caused my post traumatic syndrome to kick in. Not that I was there when it happened but I saw it live on TV ya'know?.

Anyway, as I stood perfectly still in order not to jeopardize any civilian lives around me this crazed male individual proceeded to collide with my inert body at approximately 45 mph causing me extensive bruising and perhaps even a teeny weeny little scar that might require you guys give me let's say a 3 week paid leave of absence?.

I digress sir, the male individual then bounced off my badly mauled body and proceeded to land on the sidewalk 6 feet away -such was the speed with which he struck me- at which point I duly wrote him a ticket for obstruction, assault against a peace officer, failure to yield, yielding improperly, illegal merging and another 56 infractions & misdemeanors which at this time I cannot recall but I do remember my buddies and I sure had a ball while thinkin' all of 'em up!. God bless this job sir and now I request you put me back on the street right away; there's azzes to be kicked and I'm missing out on the fun in here! Sir. "

Are we have to wear helmets everytime?
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What caused that NYPD cop to push that guy off the bike in the Critical Mass Bike Ride event? I'm completely befuddled as to what could have possibly caused that NYPD cop to suddenly and violently push that bike rider off his bike during the Critical Mass Bike Ride event. The news and youtube just show the very moment that the cop pushed the rider off the bike. But I'm wondering what if anything happened prior to this that may have caused the cop to do this? The rider didn't look like he was doing anything wrong and didn't look like he was going to run over the cop. So what suddenly triggered this cop to do what he did? I would like to hear from police officers or people from law enforcement who might have a better understanding and could shed more light on this issue from the officer's perspective. Thanks...by with lovable motor trade cv ...!!!

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