Gothamist: The Bill Clinton Factor

nativegirl

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:41:41 -0500

Don't forget Bill, Hillary, Chelsea Clinton, Ed Randell, have a date in November for Clinton's campaign fraud case. This would not go well with a V.P. Pick on change. Now they will have more debt to worry about if they lose, and possibly jail time.

nativegirl

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:35:30 -0500

I really don't understand Hillary's so-called Hillraiser's, with wanting her on the ticket or else. As a woman, I really find it offensive that Hillary's die-hard supporter's are requesting anything period. I'm sure they realize her millions of cast vote's were also partly a Rush Limbaugh gift. Many of her millions of voters have moved on to Obama and find it offensive, her requests for money and women. How does she not recognize her negative's in a general election, if she were the nomination? Many democrat's would not have voted if she were the nomination. I find it ridiculous we are still discussing her and her lousy husband. They have no ability to run anything let alone a country. The World detest's this couple with a passion, they are mocked, ridiculed, laughed at and frightened if they ever got near the WH again.

AggieAngst

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:55:57 -0500

Here on Planet Reality, we know Obama is going to lose the presidential race. The red states haven't gotten any less red, questionable state voting practices were never really addressed, and these new, energized, Democrats for change just disenfranchised the old school working class Democrats, basically saying this party doesn't need you and don't let the door hit you on the way out. By the time we hear Rev. Wright say, "Goddamn America" a few thousand more times, and Michele saying she hasn't been proud of America until now, I believe voters will come out of the woodwork to vote against Senator Obama, plus he's losing some of his own backers by endorsing "faith based initiatives" and voting for FISA. Everybody might as well hope McCain chooses a good VP because we have four more years of Republicans in the White House. I suspect it will be a train wreck which is why I don't want Hillary Clinton anywhere near it. But I'm sure the haters out there will still find a way to blame anything bad that happens on the Clintons. I wonder what it's like to have that much power?

moonbeam

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:12:29 -0500

ITA with hclayton1. Hillary has NOTHING to bring to the table. It's obvious that her die hard "supporters" were largely Republican operatives, who never actually intended to vote for her or support her in the general election.

Spiritof76

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:57:23 -0500

The post says it pretty clearly: an Obama presidency would be greatly overshadowed by having Bill "around." And, let's all be honest: Hillary wants to be President, not Vice-anything. So you're saying it would be a bad thing (in terms of her career) for her to be one heartbeat from the presidency? Her campaign is over. Her chance to be president is gone for at least four years, maybe eight. In 2016, she'll be too old, almost as old as McCain -- who's taken some heat for his age -- and almost as old as Reagan. Time is not on her side. Why shouldn't she take VP now if there's even the slightest chance Obama may step down? Obama is weaker than I thought if he would feel overshadowed by having Bill around. Let the ex-prez go on all the menial trips that VPs and their spouses make. As long as Obama sticks to what he makes known are his own opinions, nobody will think less of him no matter what Hill and Bill say.

NannyState

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:56:04 -0500

I don't think Bill Clinton is really that "overshadowing" anymore. He gets attention when he makes stessed out extemporaneous comments but that's not the direction anyone is going in now that Hillary has shared her stage with Obama. Bill just needs to put his resentment behind him, suck it up, and be the phony plastic politician his new role demands.

hclayton1

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:31 -0500

"It won't do Clinton any good to be connected to Obama in the coming days I fear." Right, cause it's Clinton who's got to worry about being seen with Obama, not the other way around. Hillary brings nothing to his campaign as VP. Those holdouts who are not voting for Obama are never voting for Obama. Why take on someone who spent the entirety of the campaign talking up your mutual Republican opponent, as opposed to someone you will actually be able to work with? Also, where are Hillary's 18 million voters? For someone who claims to have a lock on a certain number of supporters, shouldn't she have paid her debt off already. Oh well, now she will have to get by on 95 million instead.

AggieAngst

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:08:18 -0500

I hope she won't accept a VP spot because if Obama loses, the anti-Clintonistas will blame it on Hillary, not Rev. Wright or Ayers, or his horrible reversal on FISA. She should support him the way she's doing now, and then clear a wide path away from the campaign and wait it out. It won't do Clinton any good to be connected to Obama in the coming days I fear.

BQE

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:20:22 -0500

The post says it pretty clearly: an Obama presidency would be greatly overshadowed by having Bill "around." And, let's all be honest: Hillary wants to be President, not Vice-anything.

Dave Hogarty

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:49 -0500

It's a pretty straightforward quid pro quo. Hillary delivers her political support and the votes that may come with it in return for $10 million. On a $-per-vote basis, it's a budget-minded move for the Obama campaign.

Spiritof76

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:52:24 -0500

No, it isn't. She made no such comment. You only interpreted it that way because that's how you wanted to. You probably also think Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet. And as somebody noted before, helping your former opponent pay down campaign debt is not unusual and she's not feeling "entitled."

matty

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:45:39 -0500

I still don't get why she feels entitled to having her debt paid off by obama. Isn't this the woman who made light of the possibility of Obama being assassinated just to get the nomination? He should tell her where to go.