July 6, 2008
Clinton Hill Crime Spike Sparks More Concern

Photograph from Clinton Hill Blog
The NY Times looks at the recent crimes that have rattled the under-transition neighborhood of Clinton Hill:
- Pratt's director of security (Pratt recently warned students about muggings near but not on campus) said "someone put a garbage can over a woman’s head and then robbed her" in April.
- A Pratt junior headed to a baby-sitting job was beaten up after she didn't take three girls' request for money seriously: "They took her purse, with an iPod and cash inside, and gave her a black eye that lasted two weeks."
- "A man in his 20s was beaten by a group of teenagers near the corner of St. James Place and Clifton Place"--a 68-year-old longtime resident yelled at the kids to stop.
- Another woman walked past a group of teens on Willoughby and Walworth, was hit on the back of her head, kicked and robbed.
Thierry, owner of Choice Market on Lafayette and Grand (a Gothamist commenter said the cafe "transformed the neighborhood dramatically - all of a sudden there was a gathering place"), told the Times, "You have to be careful. It’s New York, I think these people forget.” All in all, crime is down in the neighborhood--when you compare 2007 numbers to 1990, 1995, 1998 and 2001 (see the chart after the jump).
NYPD CompStat figures for the 88th Precinct:





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Crime is up in Chicago too. I wonder what this does to the eugenecist author of Freakonomic's argument?
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I'm sorry - "a lack of new police officers"? Due to a lack of speed limit signs on a side street, I drove on it 100 mph. How about if people were to control themselves a little better? I hate to say this but my father would have whipped my ass from this end of the street to the other if he had ever heard I'd gone and done something so stupid - then he would have called the cops.
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Ummm....could it have to do with the fact that everybody and his brother is walking around with a $200 iPod in his pocket? Easy money for aspiring ne'er-do-wells.
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Willoughby and Walworth isn't in Clinton Hill, it's in Bed-Stuy. Walworth is several blocks past Bedford, and is one block from the Marcy projects. There is also a notorious speakeasy/coke bar on the corner there, so I imagine the student who was mugged knew what they were getting into. I lived there in 2002 and was mugged on the exact same corner (completely my fault for being drunk and out late). Pratt students have always been targets because they have money, the neighborhood folks don't,and because Clinton Hill isn't safe and hasn't been in 40 years. I know many people who went to Pratt, and all were mugged at least once in their time at the school. If you gamble on living in an 'under-transition' neighborhood, the cost of the occasional mugging is a fact of life.
Old NY is back people.
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This doesn't surprise me. Clinton Hill is a strange area. A few blocks east and you end up in one of the slummiest parts of Bed-Stuy. I should know, because I lived there for a while. Now you have luxury apartments going up right next to the projects. It's a recipe for robberies...increasingly affluent people moving in, less police, and an angry, poor population already living there.
If there are significant rises in criminal activity in these newly gentrified areas the whole thing will collapse in a hurry.
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I went to Pratt. This is nothing new. Everyone there had a run in with either a mugging or harrassment. The biggest probelem however, is that big pockets of the neighborhood are really economically depressed and the incomming students weren't always sensitive to that (ie. the occational girls carring Prada bags around in a show- offy/ naieve way and students getting really drunk at the local bars. Pratt does a lot to generate awareness of some of the neighborhood's problems, but not everyone listens. I found a lot to love about the area but leared to stay out of the Associated Food Market.
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Also, people get really upset when they see the neiborhood changing and fear the rise of rent and living costs, especially with so many families that live in that area. Pratt has been doing some major real estate development since president Tom Schutte took over. Additionally, Pratt is invested in a number of local bussiness on Mytle ave. in an effort to stablize the area.
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Brooklyn's gentrification is slowing, even coming to a halt in some places. As long as you have a large number of poor people living there & other parts of the city, the trend of gentrification will eventually reverse and if the economy continues to decline, who knows what will happen. You have to laugh when some people suggested that Bed-Stuy would turn into another Park Slope or Williamsburg.
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I live in the hood and I definately believe that there is a false sense of security. Also, there are not any police officers in Clinton Hill other than a few blocks around Pratt.
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hah, that's the corner i live on in the ny times picture. makes me feel pretty safe.
anyway, since yesterday, there have been cops on pretty much every corner in the area with a number of them patrolling in groups, and there's a mobile command truck sitting on the corner of emerson and classon every night. i was wondering why until i heard about the ny times article. how long are they planning on being here?
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*emerson and myrtle
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Also, there are not any police officers in Clinton Hill other than a few blocks around Pratt.
The cops arrive with the condos.
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#2 pretty much nails it. people simply behaving badly. though more officers probably couldn't hurt.
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The historical perspective that is shown is the last years. To see the current history (ie last two weeks) see the complete recent compstat PDF here:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs088pct.pdf
Last week:
Robbery up 250%
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Bloomberg does not care about issues outside of Manhattan. Is the Nets arena his pet project? how did that get through?
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6:49 - Gentrification may be slowing, but it's not going away. It's all cyclical, and right now the economy is in the tubes and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to buy. The front lines of gentrification might contract a bit for a year or so, but once the economy picks up and the people have confidence in the real estate market, you can bet that the sweeping tide of moneyed people buying undervalued Brooklyn brownstones will continue.
I rent my place on the line between Fort Greene and Clinton Hill. I wasn't around 10 years ago, but from neighbors and friends who attended Pratt years ago, I'm told that the neighborhood was a much more dangerous place to live. But while home prices and rents may be stagnant right now, they're not plummeting, and people aren't moving out in droves. They might be staying put and not venturing further on into Clinton Hill or Bed Stuy, but no one is leaving. In two years, once the economy recovers, home prices and rents will go up again and people will begin to venture further into Clinton Hill and Bed Stuy, especially as more and more people react to the fast increasing costs of commuting from the suburbs and choose to start and raise families in Brooklyn instead of the suburbs.
In my opinion, gentrification is a slow, steady process that generally reflects local macroeconomic trends, and not so much not a flight of fancy that reflects microeconomic/consumer trends. One can argue which of those forces plays the largest role in gentrification, but I think it's safe to say that in another 10 years, Clinton Hill will look and feel a lot like Fort Greene does now, and Bed Stuy will look and feel like Clinton Hill.
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The Associated on Myrtle is dangerous? Really?
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Pratt's been in that neighborhood looong before any of the long time residents. Pratt needs to encourage gentrification and buy up more property (while it's relatively affordable) if it wants to increase student enrollment and the value of it's holdings.
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No, that Associated is probably the furthest thing from dangerous. And it closes early.
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Pratt has one big building proposed for the lots on Myrtle where the KFC used to be and breaking up the superblock that is there now. Hopefully that will happen.
Other than that Pratt has sold off some of its property which the new owner it letting decay while trying to flip it.
I haven't seen any crazy spikes in crime in the neighborhood- but I don't walk around waving hundreds of dollars of electronics either.
Don't park your car overnight by Pratt BTW.
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Wow, that's my building in the NYT article! I'm not a Pratt student but moved here from Cambridge, MA after I finished grad school. I have lived on Clinton and Myrtle for 2 years now. I will admit that I am a sign on the gentrification that is happening in the neighborhod and am guilty of walking around with Ipod, Blackberry, and Vuitton in tow. It's unfortunate that these crimes are happening because I think this is a really great neighborhood. Honestly, it's summertime and kids get bored and do stupid things. We all just have to be more aware of our surroundings and perhaps be a little less "flashy."