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Map from the NY Times
With the unusually hot weather (20 degrees above normal) baking the city over the past few days, Con Ed has been trying to keep the power on. The NY Times has taken information from Con Ed showing the change in peak electricity demand between last week and this past Monday and mapped it.
An important thing to note is that the jump looks lowest in many midtown and lower Manhattan areas because the air conditioning was already on, whereas other people in other neighborhoods were probably just returning home from work and turning on their AC units then.
Con Ed revealed yesterday's electric use was a new June record, "12,987 megawatts at 5 p.m., surpassing the record of 12,684 megawatts set at 5 p.m. Monday." Yesterday's electricity use was also the fourth-highest all-time peak electric use on record (overall electricity consumption has increased 20% over the past 10 years). Con Ed has suggestions on how NYers can conserve energy, like "Using energy-intensive appliances like dishwashers, washing machines and dryers late at night, or early in the morning" (more here).
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It feels like Long Island City is getting bigger every day.
Most people are twits and use energy stupidly. turn off lights to keep the inside temps down... try to eat cold dinners instead of hot dinners (on extremely hot days). Cooking heats up apartments/houses and the humidity from that cooking doubles it.
its not going to get better.
lets see what happens once all these new luxury high-rises around town are finished and occupied; they will surely command a substantial amount of additional energy, many are sitting on the footprint where much smaller buildings used to be. Many if not most feature state-of-the-art gadgets and appliances and only a handful are even pretending to be "green."
this is in part an infrastructure problem- what do city planners do all day, anyway?
How do they have two Flatbushes? Where is Ft. Greene/Clinton Hill?
I'm surprised at the jump in places like Park Slope. What edEx says is true: people don't think about the energy impact of their choices. There's also the large number of devices that people keep running unnecessarily. Think about unplugging or turning off those power strips that hold the TV, desktop computer, etc.
So much energy gets wasted it's appalling. Why during the winter do we use so much energy keeping things cold indoors? I shop at Fairway on 125th Street and they have a huge walk-in cold room where the meat, fish and dairy stuff is located. When it's ten degrees outside they heat the building and then run freezers to keep that area cold. Couldn't they just open the door or blow some outside air in through the vents? Same with home refrigeration. Someone I knew had an old apartment that had a food storage area built into the outside wall of the kitchen and you could put stuff in there to keep it cold. Why don't we all have those?
> I'm surprised at the jump in places like Park Slope
I'm surprised that Park Slope has apparently moved a couple miles south.
Raise the price of electricity, then people will learn to conserve. That usually works.
I was the section of the city not using a lot of power are usually the poor part of the city. I'm surprise the Lower East Side doesn't uses that much electricity, considering that's where extremely rich people live.
Does it say when this use of energy occurred? "between last week and this past Monday and mapped it." If it was on the weekend then it really doesn't mean much at all. Typical ConEd bullshit.
I like how those damn hipsters in Williamsburg and yuppies/hipsters in Park Slope are carrying around their organic groceries in canvas tote bags with their save the planet shirts, using up so much electricity.
@ Anna Merkin
Gentrified neighborhoods in Brooklyn aren't really neighborhoods.
Who's home at 5pm?
I was wondering about the neighborhoods too -- until I read the fine print: "Territories are Consolidated Edison networks."
"Gentrified neighborhoods in Brooklyn aren't really neighborhoods."
Huh?
I don't consider East New York or Brownsville to be neighborhoods either.
See, how absurd that sounds?
#1 you'll notice how con ed slipped astoria in there with LIC!
Bleck... all this talk about conserving energy and "these new buildings aren't even green!".
Know what I did for the last three days? Left my A/C on a nice steady 68 all day just so the house was cool when I came home.
Now that's mom and apple pie for you. Not a chance that I am going to think about unplugging a power strip or two to save a nickel next month.
fine print: "Territories are Consolidated Edison networks."
An important thing to note is that the jump looks lowest in many midtown and lower Manhattan areas because the air conditioning was already on, whereas other people in other neighborhoods were probably just returning home from work and turning on their AC units then.
What? The graphic clearly states it's a comparison between Monday at 5 p.m. vs. the same time a week before. They're not comparing 5 p.m. vs. the business day. Besides, how many people get home at 5? That would be one heck of a short commute. Definitely couldn't make it back to Flushing or Rego Park by 5 unless you left at 3:30 or so.
Con Ed revealed yesterday's electric use was a new June record, "12,987 megawatts at 5 p.m., surpassing the record of 12,684 megawatts set at 5 p.m. Monday." Yesterday's electricity use was also the fourth-highest all-time peak electric use on record (overall electricity consumption has increased 20% over the past 10 years).
I believe that. It wasn't so long ago that we were marvelling at 10,000 megawatts. We desperately need more generation capacity in the city. The city should start giving tax deferments or other incentives for buildings and houses to start plastering their roofs with solar panels, then force Con Ed to buy the power.
Would somebody forward this to the plug-in electric vehicle lobbying groups?
Would somebody forward this to the plug-in electric vehicle lobbying groups?
Your comment betrays very poor knowledge of electric vehicles and electric utilities in general. Plug-in electrics are supposed to be recharged overnight, often with a timer. Large power plants can't be turned on and off like a light switch. They run 24/7 except when periodic maintenance is necessary. So where do you think all that excess power goes when most people are asleep? It's wasted, just flowing around the grid doing nothing. Plug-ins would use that wasted power to recharge their batteries, meaning no extra load on the grid or additional pollution.
Does it say when this use of energy occurred? "between last week and this past Monday and mapped it." If it was on the weekend then it really doesn't mean much at all. Typical ConEd bullshit.
And Snoopy shows once again that he has problems with both science and reading comprehension. It says 5 p.m., not any period between times. That's instantaneous power consumption at that specific moment. Note power, not energy. That's why it says megawatts, not megawatt-hours. And then Snoopy has the gall to start calling Con Ed out on it when he can't even understand what they're saying.
It just never ceases to amaze me to see the level of ignorance displayed in Gothamist comments, mainly from a select few individuals.
I find it amazing that some individuals that think they know every thing are basic assholes. Witness the above the comment. "Note power, not energy." What in god's name is the difference between power and energy? Does Spirit have some metaphysical kind of voodoo that separates the two?
So the time they measured was at 5 p.m.? What the hell does that do with the overall day consumption? Was it a brief moment in time that they measured the surge?
"It just never ceases to amaze me to see the level of ignorance displayed in Gothamist comments, mainly from a select few individuals."
Where does this person come from?
Something tells me that Spirit either works for the city, the MTA, Port Authority, DOB, or is a retired cop.
What in god's name is the difference between power and energy? Does Spirit have some metaphysical kind of voodoo that separates the two?
So the time they measured was at 5 p.m.? What the hell does that do with the overall day consumption? Was it a brief moment in time that they measured the surge?
Geez, but you're an idiot. You wear your ignorance like a badge of honor. Any high school physics student knows the difference between power and energy, which have very specific definitions. Who said anything at all about overall day consumption? Not Con Ed. Not Jen. Not me. I'd suggest going to talk to a science teacher, but you'd never do that because you'd never admit that you don't know anything at all.
Something tells me Snoopy dropped out of third grade. That would have to be the case if he assumes that even the people at MTA, Port Authority, DOB or NYPD -- none of which are rocket scientists -- would know more science than him.
I love rattling Spirit's cage. It shows that rather than addressing the problem he loves defending a system that really doesn't address the actual problem.
The map was bullshit! What did it show? Plain and simple. WHAT DID THAT MAP ILLUSTRATE? And who got paid to illustrate same?
One more thing, Spirit is a flute player.
Same old Snoopy. Anytime he's caught being a complete imbecile, he claims he's just "rattling someone's cage." So he tries to explain away his stupidity by claiming he's really trolling. In truth, he's both -- he's a stupid troll. All he's doing is putting his idiocy on display for all the world to see, although he's probably too ignorant to even realize the global reach of the Web. If he can't comprehend something, it must be meaningless. So basically most of the world, most of the universe must be meaningless. Pitiful.
"Raise the price of electricity, then people will learn to conserve. That usually work"
Senator Schumer, is that you?