In NYC, Clinton gave a speech last night that, per the Daily News' Michael Goodwin, showed "the chutzpah is back," she defiantly pointed out her strengths. The NY Times' Maureen Dowd writes, "Whoever said that after denial comes acceptance hadn’t met the Clintons. If Hillary could not have an acceptance speech, she wasn’t going to have acceptance."
Can you believe the Iowa primary was on January 3? It's going to be a long way till November, let along the Democratic convention in August and Republican convention in September.
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Obama/Gore. This could help heal one historical mistake and prevent another hillarystorical mistake.
babyhitler
#40 -Remember "I'm a uniter not a divider"? Obama supporters in 2008 are exactly like George Bush supporters in 2000. Very Idealistic and self righteous. Look what happened. Everything that is said about Obama now, was said about Bush in 2000.
yoplay
I for one am happy the empire is finished, finished because of our arrogance. Now let's function with a little compassion for once. plus f all you "I'm for obama, but he won't win" louts. Let's do this thing! Put McCain and Obama on the same stage and the difference will be black and white... and I for one am betting on black.
People will come out for this, they love an underdog. Obama's tactics shed light all over the Clinton hate campaign and he'll came out and responded to every attack they had, he'll shed light on the Republican fear machine.
JMH
I agree with Mister Tissue.
NYCSniper
Anybody notice that Hillary supporters are generally more negative and pessimistic, and Obama supporters see the future as being bright?
Go 'bama!
Snoopy
Maybe we could be like France or Portugal.
Anna_Merkin
(I can't believe I'm agreeing with babyhitler!)
Yeah, there is no way that he wins this Fall, except possibly with some old(er) white dude who assuages our less-enlightened brothers and sisters. I'll be curious to see how many of the "angry" HRC supporters follow through with their moronic threats.
I'm going to have to marry a half-Chinese half-Indian woman so my kids can get the proper passportage. We're over-extended and there's no WWII with a draft, free appropriated German technology, baby boom, and wrecked 1st world economy (i.e., Europe) to save our butts this time. We're less like the Roman Empire and more like the British Empire. We'll still remain relevant but in a much more diminished capacity.
NYCSniper
BTW, who says that Obama won't pick up latinos, etc? Maybe they went for Hill in primaries, but it is insane to think they would flat out reject obama in the general election. (I'm not talkin about the rednecks that Hill courts, of course).
I for one am not buying Hill's notion that Obama needs her to win.
belgrader
Obama-Clinton team? Don't think so, Americans need a FUNCTIONAL White House.
MisterTissue
Thank you, Matty. I'm not sure where this "racist" midwest comes from. Pennsylvania has the highest number of white hate groups in the nation; yet it is a mid-atlantic state. Great plains Midwesterners like Kansans and Iowans don't give a crap about race; IL, MN, WI, and MI have significant black populations, especially in urban areas where Democratic votes come from. Indiana and Ohio are hillbillyish, but that's due to proximity to KY and WV; states Obama has no chance of winning anyway. The man has spent his adult life in the Midwest and I don't think he alienates we good people who grown your food and make your cars as much as the East Coast Ivory Tower types would like to think.
likesrudylikesbooty
What will his/their campaign slogan be?
"Keep the change. Gimme all your money."
EastRiver
On the topic of VP selection, the ticket doesn't have to appeal to the South. If the Democrats can hold the states they won in 2000/2004 and pick up Ohio, they win. That makes me think there is still a 30 percent chance Hillary is the nominee for VP. Edwards brings nothing. Maybe instead of losing the South by 30 points they lose by 20.
Snoopy
Maybe Babyhitler can run as vp. He has the correct attitude for those states that Osama can't reach and a name that will stick in people's minds and remember at election time.
matty
#25 How will Obama not get the midwest vote when the midwest were the ones who voted for him? Not one eastern seabord state save Connecticut and Maine voted for Obama.
Please never forget that IOWA got this guy to where he is today. IL, MN, WI and MS also helped.
The "problem" states are WV, OH, MI, KY, PA and FL of which only two of thos states are Midwestern.
Even NY may stray from Obama as it is a primarily a rustbelt state.
Obama is a political product of the midwest. People would do well not to forget that.
likesrudylikesbooty
[22] See Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court case.
However, this might be a reminder that the people voted based on their dissatisfaction with the incumbent president, and his associated party.
twakum
The whiny old bit** has ripped the band aid off the latent racism in the democratic party. She has harmed the dems prospects more than any other recent dem politician. Obama does need to pick an old white guy because of her stupid racist pandering. Plus the uncouth comments of her spouse.
And put her frickin majesty on the Supreme Court, or in other terms "out to pasture". She and her gang of local droogs needs to stop now. I know threatening a cnadidate can get the Secret Service on you, but if I smack Terry McCauliffe with a dead halibut, can I do less than 30 days? If she runs in 2012 after damaging Obama like she did, there will be a Daily Kos and progressive revolt like you have never seen.
NYCSniper
Just a *little* crazy?
This is like the girlfriend you break up with, but just won't accept that you've moved on....
iank
Clinton seems to have made it pretty clear that she doesn't like Obama as a candidate. She's spent so much time saying how unqualified he was. So how the hell can she expect him to suddenly say, "Oh, yes! Clinton would make a great VP! We'd work well together!"
And how can she expect to suddenly be able to promote his candidacy? It would only make her look more two-faced than she already does.
The best thing she could do would be to concede gracefully and then work quietly behind the scenes to get him elected.
But she won't. Because she's selfish. And possibly a little crazy.
Rocknrope
And think about how much worse it would be if she were the one in that position.
babyhitler
Looking at all the vitriol on the comment boards for and against obama/clinton you can easily tell what forbodes in the future. I'd be surprised if the democratic party ever will get a nominee into power in the first half of this century. Roman Empire = 27 BC – 1453 AD. American Empire = 1776 AD - 2012 AD. Hey, we had a good run. It's time to call my relatives in the Netherlands to see if I can move there. Amsterdam is the Shit.
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