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In a couple of weeks Staten Island will hold its very own music festival called Rock the Harbor, something Brooklyn Vegan posted about this week -- instantly sparking a lot of "discussion" about the borough ("Does everyone have to tan and work out before the show?" etc). With Manhattanites trying to pawn SI off on Jersey, and Jerseyites rejecting it, it was only a matter of time before Staten Island Advance caught wind of the fightin' words, noting that "battle lines were drawn." One of the promoters of the show also chimed in, saying, in part:
We actually have a lot more to offer on Staten Island aside from what you may have seen on True Life: I'm a Staten Island Girl. Not all of us say 'Bro', not all of us are mobbed up, and not all of us have no idea about the arts or culture. We actually have quite a few beautiful attractions, but I'll save the tourism chat for another time. The whole point of Rock the Harbor was to shine a light on a music scene that is slowly gaining some steam. There's all sorts of bands on this lineup from straight up indie, to shoegaze, to punk, to pop, to bluegrass, we have a bit of everything and are planning on hosting this event with a completely open mind.And is the commute really much worse than getting out to the Siren Fest on Coney Island, which swarms with hipsters every year?
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Interesting responses from what one could only believe is from a bunch of idiotic transplants who have been told it's cool and ironic to bash what they hear, instead of know... and good for the people who stepped in to defend Staten Island which has a plethora of musical talent over the years. Snug Harbor is a beautiful place and I'm going to take the ferry over and check out this show.
Not all of us say 'Bro'...
That actually reminds me of my favorite moment teaching at the College of Staten Island. A student is leaving the classroom and I yell "Dude!" because I want his attention. He listens to me, makes an appointment for tutoring, and then politely informs me, "Nobody says dude anymore - you say 'bro.'"
Staten Island isn't so bad if you don't count the outrageously racist white residents who seem to outnumber the sane ones by about a hundred to one. Other than that? It's just like Gothamist! Read Gawker today-- It's all about the freakishly out-of-control racism right here on this sight!
SI is where all the ethnic whites from brooklyn move to get away from people who are not their color.
NJ is second.
thanks for the gawker tip, megs.
I see I'm not on that list. guess I'm not hipster.
Staten Island is the one place where you won't get your tires slashed over that 'W' sticker in the back window. The price of this privilege is an eternity explaining to people how you "still live in New York", a neighborhood filled with biker jacket clad 80's rejects in black jeans and tie dye 'do rags', and cranky old people that would run you and your family over just to make it to Tuesday mass. But it really is hip.
Hmm, that Gawker exposure may prompt Jen & co. to come up with a better editorial policy. Reading the same tired puerile troll shit every day is getting a bit old.
Ironic that edEx got cited, doubly ironic that Gawker would think that any of these people are "hipsters."
I rest my case. why is it ironic?
Man that promoter who commented on Vegan really knows his stuff. But really people, come out for this show!!! It's gonna be awesome!!!
Seriously, why not "report" on something useful, like write about a couple of the bands, or provide some info on how to get there, etc...
i went to staten island for the first time ever last week. it was just like the san fernando valley but with more italian people.
sonyactivision so you're schooled Staten Island actually has more registered Democrats than Republicans. Blame the registered Dems for not actually getting off their couches and voting.
"I rest my case. why is it ironic?"
Well, EdEx is not normally a troll and I hadn't remembered him playing the stupid "Sharpton should comment on every crime perpetrated by a black person" game. I was surprised by his comment. But now his post is archived out of context on another site, lumped together with BabyHitler et. al.
I think a workable definition of "hipster" is somebody who works very hard at being cool. They wear the right "ironic" shit, know all the latest indie bands, go the right clubs, etc. While some of Gothamist is hipster-oriented, most of the regular commenters (and certainly the daily trolls) strike me as a different animal. I think they are older than the median Gothamist reader and just looking for a place to sound off. Bunch of frustrated wackos, really. ;)
I agree with your "hipster" def.
I think the demographics on this site is skewed towards the almost 30 and above who could be hipster.
look through some old edEx posts and see his thinly veiled code words. I didn't say he was a "troll".
why would someone post "where is Al sharpton?" or why isn't al sharpton involved? etc etc?
this is pure garbage because there's no white equivalent to this because whites have all the power and privilege forever in this country.
wow, a skim through these posts is pretty disheartening, megs and jacque. i realize much of what youre saying is ego-fluffery, but it directly hurts the image and feelings of my home town. how do you feel hearing people talking about how brooklyn, or queens, or elsewhere in the city, is unsafe because of all the violent crimes, or a hipster wasteland, or yesterday's new big thing? as a fellow new yorker (and staten islander by birth and choice), it hurts me. because these words immensely limit our city's potential and essence.
staten island is an exceptionally diverse and harmonious place to live, save for isolated incidents that you will find anywhere. a brief walk off the ferry will immerse you in communities of African Amrican, West Indian, Sri Lankan, Mexican, and other Central American populations. thank goodness, i don't even remember the last race riot or hate crime in the area. we even had a highly successful gay pride parade this past weekend. many people from other boroughs even came down and showed love! what does that say about the music scene...so much of it is ego-centric that y'all get wrapped up in the hating and reduction. you don't have to treck out here if you don't want to. but we'd love you to come. how does this garner these misinformed si-bashing posts, both here and on bv?
there have been violent crimes committed in each of our diverse and beautiful boroughs. but si has the reputation for being conservative and racist. which does exist here, amongst other realities. but many of us are working to transcend that, and build community! i come from a family of italian immigrants, and we peacefully, lovingly, happily coexist with all of our neighbors. the only migrants to nyc i find issues with are the often overpriveledged and overeducated brats who come in all jaded and image-obsessed, thinking they're taking part in something cool and different while really making fun of it when it's really right under your nose, for image's sake! oh, the irony...even music scenes have taken on the corporate model.
enjoy the pockets of diversity in your hip little areas while they exist. because once your friend, and her friend, and his friend move to nyc the rents are going to skyrocket and you will successfully gentrify another section of our beloved city. then will you say, "yeah i've always wanted to go visit staten island, it's so quaint and diverse"?
and for the record...i haven't seen a mc jacket or tie-dyed item in years...but sure, occasionally you will see a person who wears these items in a non-ironic (GASP!) way. this happens in organic communities, ones not spawned by a desire to be in a hot place at the moment, but where we all coexist despite our music or style tastes. not everyone is a fashionista, and some people rock what they choose to. they were once an endless source of humor for me and my friends. then i got a really cool job in the city, went to all the hot parties in bk, and realized what a pretentious, hating scene i was becoming a part of. and when it comes down to it, i'd rather have a conversation with some dude doing his thing in a mc jacket, or a gold chain, or a girl with neon long acrylic nails than a douchebag who's sizing me up because of what disposable bands i read about on pitchfork, or where my clothes come from.
the two of you sound like children.