Gothamist: Man Stabbed When Trying to Protect Pregnant Woman

sonyactivision

Mon, 19 May 2008 11:27:14 -0500

Fifty years ago, that homeless guy would have been locked away in a forensic ward at Creedmoor or Pilgrim awaiting his lobotomy. Today, he's out there stabbing people on a subway platform.Everybody hates mental institutions...but they love this?

Think twice

Sun, 18 May 2008 17:37:05 -0500

Goddamn vagrant nutjobs. Who on earth decides that they're fit to be out on the streets.

bitternative

Sun, 18 May 2008 09:39:06 -0500

11 years of shelter and food at the taxpayers' expense just so a violent person can go out again and attempt another killing doesn't make sense at all... I have no answer, just frustration.

Jerky

Sat, 17 May 2008 21:05:04 -0500

Another good reason to kill the homeless!

Spiritof76

Sat, 17 May 2008 18:58:01 -0500

All these same old arguments that "these creeps would think twice if everyone had guns" are as dumb as they've ever been. Man is a creature of passion, prone to impulsive, spur of the moment actions. They're not even thinking once in these situations, so they wouldn't be thinking twice.

neoconfascist

Sat, 17 May 2008 18:56:11 -0500

Ha, he'll think twice next time he wants to be a hero in front of a woman!

Snoopy

Sat, 17 May 2008 18:05:04 -0500

They should have thrown him on the tracks. Let the TA do their job. If the guy tried to climb back up to the platform kick him in the face.

Eoin MacNeill

Sat, 17 May 2008 17:19:58 -0500

And to answer your question Alex, I am all for more violence if in final analysis less law abiding citizens are the victim of violent crimes.

slappy

Sat, 17 May 2008 17:16:58 -0500

A fully armed citizen is no longer a citizen. It s called an army of one. And BTW, just what we all need: People losing thier tempers and shooting each other. Ah, well. We are all too familiar with the arguments on both sides. The road is long.

Eoin MacNeill

Sat, 17 May 2008 17:15:04 -0500

Alex, if you tried to hit me with your car I would shoot you. I would shoot you as many times as it took to make you stop trying to him me with your car. (Though the bell case is more complicated than either of our analysis of the situation). If you try to scare me in to the street, I would shoot you. If you spat at my pregnant companion I would pull my gun, and if you tried to menace me I would shoot you. If you, with a group of other miscreants, assaulted me for not reason, I would shoot you, and then train my pistol on the one in the group that looked like the alpha (happened to my friend, without the ability to defend himself, so he was just a victim). If you assaulted and battered me on the subway while using racial epitaphs (happened to me), I would shoot you. I think I am a reasonable person, and I think other law abiding citizens would act in a reasonable manner as well. That is why they are law-abiding, they are reasonable.

Alex

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:47:48 -0500

Once everyone has guns, there will be no more gun violence. Makes a lot of sense right? Even if "ordinary law-abiding citizens" were the only ones with the guns, do you think these people could think fast and responsibly in such a situation? The Sean Bell situation is proof of this. Well-trained police couldn't even know not to shoot an unarmed man 50 times.

JacqueMehoff

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:41:15 -0500

having every passenger pull out their guns for a situation like this is a bad idea. we should do what every ny'er does and just keep our head down and mind our own business. I'm seeing more homeless out on the streets and I'm always going to be on their side. thankfully Pb is still cheap.

Eoin MacNeill

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:24:16 -0500

More than this specific situation, an armed citizenry would prevent situations, like this one, where ordinary law-abiding citizens are at the caprice of the deranged. This homeless man, as a convicted felon, would be no more likely to have a concealed weapon with a reasonable concealed carry policy than under the present gun control scheme. And if every purse and sport jacket could legally conceal a pistol the dregs would do a great deal less menacing as a point of self-preservation. Alex, it is likely that if a gun were carried by Cochran he would have produced it when the homeless man lunged at the pregnant woman. Long before the scuffle.

spreetaper

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:19:11 -0500

and there you just assuming one person would have a gun.. what if there was someone else too who pulled out a gun crossfire! why not just a stun gun :)

rocketattackusa

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:07:58 -0500

@ Eoin MacNeill Yeah, that would've been great, a guy opening fire on a crowded subway platform. Can't see how that would go bad at all.

Alex

Sat, 17 May 2008 16:06:32 -0500

Yeah, because I'm sure he'd have time to pull out a gun and get off a clean shot while the bum lunges at him.

Eoin MacNeill

Sat, 17 May 2008 14:27:13 -0500

This is a good argument for a reasonable concealed carry law. This good man could have be able to say "steak knife, how cute," and aided this scum in shuffling off the mortal coil.

Armchair_warrior

Sat, 17 May 2008 13:48:24 -0500

too bad they didn't beat the turd out of him and leave him for dead. another waste of societies resources.

palestine

Sat, 17 May 2008 13:46:44 -0500

Good samaritans all around and a solid story all around, I'll just hate it if the media blows this up which they probably will.

Brouhaha

Sat, 17 May 2008 13:46:21 -0500

Yeah, he could have still had a salad fork or dessert spoon on him!

Dave Hogarty

Sat, 17 May 2008 13:18:20 -0500

Chivalry is not dead, just a little perforated. And my hat's off to the bystanders who chased the stabber down and tackled him. That's pretty ballsy considering he just plunged a steak knife into a guy's chest.