May 6, 2008
Obama Wins N.C.; Clinton Has Slight Indiana Lead
Photograph, top, of Michelle and Barack Obama in North Carolina by Gerry Broome/AP; photograph, below, of Clinton supporters in Indianapolis by Elisa Amendola/AP
Barack Obama is projected to win the North Carolina primary. With 57% of the vote in, Obama has 580,760 votes to Hillary Clinton's 427,773, about 56% to 41%--at stake is the state's 115 delegates. Politico calls Obama's win "resounding."
Indiana, however, is "too close to call." Clinton does have a lead, but as results come in, the margin between her and Obama appears to get smaller. Right now, with 78% of the precincts reporting, Clinton leads 52% (503,060 votes) to Obama's 48% (471,609). Indiana has 72 delegates.
Clinton was hoping for a significant win in Indiana, for momentum and to claim Obama can't draw enough working class white voters. NBC's Andrea Mitchell says the mood at the Clinton camp rally in Indianapolis is "schizophrenic"--earlier in the night, apparently campaign staffers were thinking Clinton could win by 8 points.
The Caucus says Obama's N.C. victory speech was one of his "better speeches": "He was gracious toward Mrs. Clinton, promising to unite the party and the country, in a more or less open bid for her supporters and to pave the way for her eventual withdrawal."
Update, 11 p.m.: CBS News has called Indiana for Clinton, but NBC, CNN, and ABC all say it's too close too call. Clinton's speech was quasi victorious, but it was definitely muted (Chris Matthews called it charming).
Update, 11:50 p.m.: MSNBC says with half of Gary, Indiana reporting, there's less than 20,000 votes separating Clinton and Obama, and the NY Times' numbers support that: Clinton leads with 584,113 votes but Obama has 564,323 (that's 91% of the precincts reporting). The Times also says "options dwindling for Clinton."
And with 98% of N.C. precincts in, Obama has won North Carolina by 14 points. The headline so far: This has been Obama's worst month and he still managed a strong showing in Indiana/ Clinton wasn't able to continue the momentum from Pennsylvania.
We'll have more in the morning--check out CNN.com, MSNBC.com, NYTimes.com, Politico.com, etc. in the meantime.
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Hillary Clinton is speaking right now - she says how she's come behind, notes how Obama has outspent her (so please go to her website and donate some money) and how she's from the Indiana area (well, Illinois).
Now if you count votes that were agreed upon to not count, and if you declare victory in a state no one else is declaring and if you somehow sweep every thing left to come, Hillary, you've got this in the bag. Your smugness is rivaled only by your pandering!
She needed more than this
BARACK HAS BASICALLY WON THE NOMINATION
GO OBAMA 2008!!!!!!!!
Obama has outspent her. silly hillary, that's what i wanted him to do with the money i gave him!
um...is Hill trying to say that Obama has received more donations than she has or that she has spent more "wisely"?
People put their $$ where their votes are and if the "Clinton Machine" couldn't come up with the do-ra-me then maybe she should be thinking about her chances at the nomination
This is wild! The TV commentators are getting punchy!
gary indiana better not fuck this one up..
I am in Chicago and I've never liked Gary more than I have now.
Almost...there.
I wish I could make out with Jen Chung right now.
But I won't cause I am not like that guy from UofC who stalked Uma Thurman and is a stalker...
That said, WHAT A BABE!
OBAMA 2008!
half of hilary's supporter's will vote for mcCain so where will Obama get the votes to beat him? Oprah?
No babyhitler, He'll get the votes from independents... as well as many of those Hillary hotheads when the dust settles. When Obama and McCain go head to head, and the ugly truths about Iraq, abortion rights, the hope for relief from home foreclosures, the possibility of a war with Iran, our dismal standing with the rest of the f***ing planet... and so on, become the topics of discussion voters will abandon McCain like hairs from Donald Trump's scalp. I doubt Americans sick from the state of our country today will really vote McCain, even Hill supporters won't be willing to cut of their noses to spite their faces (hell, voting him in would be cutting off your head to spite your face!).
The only difference between McCain and Obama (or Clinton) is how much I am going to have to pay for an incompetent government. They will both coddle the boomer base and drive the country further into the ground. If we had any sense we would elect Warren Buffet. However, if I were Buffet I would not take the captain's chair on this sinking ship for all the money and power in the world.
Another red state victory by Obama.
It's starting to make sense how the same electorate that enabled a George W into the White House can do the same for a quasi-militant black man.
Does look like the end for Hillary but I hope she fights on until the convention, courting and counting to the last delegate. It's definitely to her benefit to hurt Obama's chance so that McCain can get the win, so she can run again in 4 years. Obama is gonna be brutalized by the well run Repubican PR Machine.
Anyway, McCain is getting my vote.
Quasi-militant? The distance between you and reality grows with each passing day....
They all kinda suck but Hillary sucks the most. Its kinda a toss up for me between obama and mccain... im liking mccain a bit better lately but then i dunno. I just know i dont like hillary
The way I see it, if and when Hill bows out, she would do a half-ass "endorsement" of Obama, signaling to her loyalists to sit out the general election. The Republicans will bring back Wright and any other potential damaging issues, as well as label Obama as liberal, which is a death sentence in the general election. Hopefully McCain is distant enough, and perceived to be smarter than GW to get the independent votes and be elected.
Obama is not going to nor able to change anything if elected. He'd HAVE to water down everything he promised in order to pass any legislation. I'd rather have a president that can get some things accomplished then sing kumbaya for 4 years, beacuse that's all he's gonna do.
Dear Eoin MacNeill,
"He's not only a leader, but he can lead us to the right place"
- Warren Buffet speaking about Barack Obama
Sorry I was really drunk last night
I dunno.. your posts have proper spelling, capitalization, and punctuation. Tough to make a drunk-dialing claim.
Dude69: The situation you describe will occur to any President, since the Senate will not have a 60-vote majority any time soon. What exactly do you think McCain will be able to accomplish with a Democratic Congress?
#16 - How could anyone possibly be undecided between McCain and Obama at this point? You'd have to be stupid or uninformed to be on the fence with such a stark choice.
#17 - McCain isn't distant from Bush on the big issues. Obama needs to embrace his liberalism and shove it right down McCain's wrinkled throat. America is sick of this GOP trying to erase our founding ideology of liberalism from history and we're done taking it.
"Quasi-militant? The distance between you and reality grows with each passing day...."
I agree. There's nothing quasi about Obama's militant anti-white attitude. Long before this whole Rev. Wright shitbomb I read Obama's first book and was amazed. I'm not handing the keys to the country to some asshole with a chip on his shoulder over his white mama. If you ask me he just can't come to grips with the fact that his father was a philanderer who ditched him and his mother for greener pastures and that it was people like his white mama and his typical white person grandmama who raised his ass and put the time in as parents to get him where he is today. The only time he ever takes pride in being half-white is when it serves to deflect comments about his anti-racist beliefs which are well documented in his own words and have existed long before Rev. Wright walked onto the scene.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...
berniegoetz,
I read that same book. I find it very weird that you've come to a conclusion filled with such anger and misunderstanding.
p.s. perhaps you're the one with the chip on his shoulder...
Sounds like berniegoetz's chinchilla explained that 'theory' to him.