April 28, 2008
Cardinal Egan Says Giuliani Broke "Understanding"
When Pope Benedict XVI gave a papal mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral, onlookers were surprised that former mayor Rudy Giuliani took Communion, given his three marriages and pro-choice abortion stance. Now Edward Cardinal Egan has issued a statement slamming Giuliani, saying Rudy was never supposed to have had the holy wafer!
Apparently Egan and Giuliani had an "understanding" from back when Egan became Archbishop and Giuliani was mayor, where Giuliani "was not to receive the Eucharist because of his well-known support of abortion." Egan's statement ended with, "I deeply regret that Mr. Giuliani received the Eucharist during the Papal visit here in New York, and I will be seeking a meeting with him to insist that he abide by our understanding.” Good luck with that! Giuliani's been known to ignore the advice of longtime advisers.
The Daily News points out other high-profile politicians who support abortion received Communion: "So did House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senators John Kerry, Christopher Dodd and Edward Kennedy at Nationals Park in Washington."
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As tribute to one of the best comments of 2008...
Egan please!
Funny. I thought Christianity was all about the personal relationship with Jesus, not the fascist dicatorship of the Catholic church.
I stepped on some cracks on the sidewalk today while on my lunch break.
I hope this does not affect my Mom's health.
I'm wondering if they asked everybody that took communion about their thoughts on abortion. guessing not.
but fuck rudy anyways.
A friend's sister's buddy's nephew broke a mirror after tripping over a black cat whilst walking under a ladder the last Friday the 13th. It's true!
Egan to Rudy: "Did you eat a cookie?!"
No wonder the Catholic Church is going out of business. They forgot about the grace of Christ, and the forgiveness of sins. Now it's a list of dos and donts. Cardinal Egan, he who is without blame should cast the first stone. No one is sinless.
cardinal egan has the de facto pedophile voice.
Yeah yeah, to some extent religious rules may be rooted in archaic and outdated cultural understandings, but rules are rules. No one forced Giuliani to go to a Catholic mass. He may as well have showed up at mosque gnawing on pork jerkey and taking swigs of Jack Daniels from a flask during the services.
Hate on the Catholic Church all one wants, but Giuliani was pimping the circumstances for self-glorification at the expense of things that a lot of people hold sacred. He's such a dick.
HowBoutDemCowboys, I think you are confusing two denominations. Protestants believe that people have a personal relationship with Christ....Catholics think that people are not good/smart/etc enough so you gotta go through an ex-Nazi who wears a skirt, eg. the Pope.
This shows Rudi's age: if he was much younger, the good Cardinal would be plying him with money and video games, not wafers and wine.
Wow... talk about a person with no moral authority talking to a person with no moral standing. It's enough to make you turn pagan.
I'm not hating on religion - just baffled that so many people still cling to these ceremonies. I think trees are sacred. At least I can touch and see a tree - and I know it adds something real to this world. Now I don't go around hugging trees, but if I chose to, I suspect there would be some christian/catholic/jew who would see me, and think "what an oddball" -- while they make the sign of the cross, mumble their afternoon prayer or gnosh on their wafer.
this is a pure example of politics/religion: equal, no difference. eagan: politican. full of hate, spreading fear.
rudyani: corrupt, full of guilt. still after that cheap photo-op.
1) i feel like i always end up sounding like a cranky old man on this site;
2) while I completely disagree with the way that the church hierarchy in this country calls public figures to task, part of going to communion and receiving the body and blood of Christ (which in the Catholic faith is not figurative, but literal) is taking part in the community and its shared faith. Giuliani has publicly flaunted certain parts of that community of faith. When he and other figures do that, it has the ability to damage to the image and well-being of the group (and yes, I am well aware that this group has done more than enough to damage its own reputation). I can only wish that Cardinal Egan had sought that meeting before speaking publicly on the matter in order to gain insight into Giuliani's thinking and spiritual journey;
3) completely agree with Dave;
4) loganmo, there is no one Protestant theology nor do Catholics lack or discourage a personal relationship with God.
Add Cardinal Egan to the long, long list of people whom Rudy Giuliani has lied to.
Rudy Giuliani: to know him is to despise him.
Nice time get it in writting.
Cardinal Egan receives Communion even though he played hide the pedophile priest with the different parishes when he was the Bishop of Bridgeport. I'm not crazy about Rudy but Cardinal, who is worse: a pro-choice divorced Catholic or a man who moved child rapists from parish to parish and unleashed them on unsuspecting families?
http://www.mgr.org/Egan.html
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The Catholic Church is growing. Last time I checked, it had somewhere over 1.1 billion members and its growth rate was greater than the rate of overall increase for the global population. Not bad for a Church that is going out of business so badly that the fact is just assumed.
If you profess to be part of a religion, you should follow and respect the rules. If you don't agree with the rules, than clearly that religion is the wrong one for you.
Giulani is just a creep, and this is just one more creepy thing he's done. George Bush claims to be all about Jesus, yet drops bombs on people?
Politicians can't have religions because they're all snake people, like in V. Everyone knows that.