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2 a.m. Closing Time Becoming Norm for Manhattan Bars

041707curfew.jpgWhen Hog Pit co-owner Felisa Dell sent an email to Eater on April 7th confirming the closure of her Meatpacking District BBQ joint, she insinuated that “the mayor and the State Liquor Authority are now only issuing Liquor Licenses until 2 a.m. It's very sneaky, but in 5 years the 4 a.m. liquor license will be a thing of the past, without any community input.” Today the NY Sun backs Dell up, reporting that many Manhattan bar owners are finding it “nearly impossible to open new nightlife establishments that are permitted to serve alcohol until 4 a.m.”

While the New York State Liquor Authority can’t arbitrarily impose a specific closing time before 4 a.m., Community Boards have been demanding bar owners agree to curfews before they recommend approval to the SLA. The Sun looked at the most recent records available from Community Board 3, which covers the East Village and the Lower East Side, and found that not a single liquor license recommendation was granted to a bar that would close after 3 a.m. on weekends and 2 a.m. on weekdays.

And in Tribeca, Community Board 1 killed Matthew Piacentini’s plans to open a lounge in a commercial building on Hudson Street by telling him he’d have to close at midnight on weekdays and 1 a.m. on weekends. The early closing times are a big problem for bar owners; a recent survey found that 58% of their revenues are earned between those magical hours of 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. These are also the hours when some of us lose 58% of our dignity, so maybe it's all for the best?

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  • deadbox

    funny. stuffy community boards start pressuring nyc bars/clubs to close at 2am, and you guys blame transplants, hipsters, old people, drunks...

    how about you focus on what the reality of this situation will be? lost income for many hardworking tax payers, and businesses that can no longer afford to pay the rent. we all know many of us in NYC lead double, sometimes triple lives to make ends meet. well you can certainly kiss that goodbye if the door closes at 2 - even if they DO let you stay in all night and drink to your hearts content. there are performers, promoters, security, coatcheck, and other positions that people make money from in nightclubs around NYC. its bad enough how much bars and clubs charge for drinks just to try and turn a profit these days - expect that to go up as well once two hours worth of business is cut from them.

    oh, and if this becomes normal practice in NYC, im certain the influence will rub off on every other major city in the US - just like the smoking ban.

    its really pathetic if you ask me.

    "waaaah, the people outside are too loud for my 2 million dollar penthouse, and my rich spoiled silver spoon fed kids can't sleep as well knowing there are poor people around"

    fuck off and move to the suburbs then. NYC shouldn't be the next disneyland.

  • Tower18

    Someone111 has it right.

    You bitch about Midwestern transplants driving this, yet here in Chicago, I can mosey into my favorite tavern at 4am (5am on Saturdays) and get a beer.

    Suck on it, NY.

    ;)

  • thefacts

    Another Native New Yorker here for a 2 am closing!!!

    We know our city and love it, and will fight to preserve our quality of life.

    You newbies will be gone in ten years once you grow up and finish pillaging it.

    You'll wind up being like your middle-age, middle-brow, middle-class, whiskey-drinking parents

    NIMBYS RULE

  • pierrevonbaron

    bars must stay open late. they must!

  • west side Michael

    Less Piss on my doorway by 2 hours I like Dat.

  • Kojak

    People, this is why they sell flasks. The Party never stops when you have your own hooch.

    Strip clubs are always open until 4am as well, and clubs NEVER close early.

    There will always be someplace to go after the bar closes. Can't let the killjoys ruin everyone's fun now can we?

  • leonwestbrook

    New york I love you, but you're brining me down!

  • glennQNYC

    Just like the anti-car, anti-business proposals, insane rent/real estate, etc... This is good news for everyplace except Manhattan.

  • plk779

    Good God, all you "natives" need to stop and think for 2 seconds about what the entire point of NYC is: they call it the melting pot not because of all of you tiresome moaners, but because ever since the early days of this country people have come here not only from all over America but from all over the world. That's what makes it so interesting, it's always changing. If you want to live in the past, you should be the ones to get the hell out.

  • jamiebp

    This is seriously the saddest news. I am an upstanding citizen. Student, worker, taxpayer. But my hours are 11PM to 5AM! Am I back in Philadelphia or Fort Lauderdale? I am going to take action. Whats the next hot city that I dont have to drive in and is 24 hours? I cannot be here like this.

  • jhova

    Being from the midwest and living in NYC for 5 years of my adult life I think that I provide a completely objective view devoid of any midwest allegiances or new york " greatest city in the world" sentiment. You have to understand that every single cute girl in new york city is not from manhattan. They are from the south, midwest, left coast and any other podunk town along the way. Chuck klosterman definitely said it best when he described new york women as being midwest girls who spend too much time at the gym and with expensive haircuts. In addition, Jersey does have some terrible guidos who pollute our city everyday, however, thats not to say that their aren't atrocious people from staten island, the boogie down, queens, brooklyn and especially manhattan.

  • someone111

    hey idiot complaining about the midwest. in illinois bars stay open till 5am. it's funny how little some new yorkers know about anywhere else. or the rest of the country for that matter. do you even have your passport?

    hahaha

  • everydaydreamer

    Ugh. Anodyne city.

    Where does a person who doesn't know anyone get to know people now? I mean, the house party scene is only for people who are connected to each other from their private schools, elite colleges, or high-priced jobs.

    There is no place interesting to live in the U.S. anymore.

  • matty

    What a bunch of whiners. I bet you people suck to drink with.

    Also Madonna, David Letterman, George Steinbrenner and Sarah Jessica Parker are all from the midwest. Take that for what it is.

  • nymichi

    Those who said that this city is dead...unfortunately are right.

    Times Square(that sucks) double it sized in 4 years.

    Real State is crazy, prices of everything going up and after working too hard to survive you even can not party until 4am anymore?

    Michi

  • pissyrabbit

    I for one welcome the new(old) house party movement. Totally and absolutely exclusive. No $15 cocktails. No barfing girls from NJ. No frat boys giving you a grope as you go to the bathroom.

    ah. yes. I forgot how much I love house parties.

    As a matter of fact, think I'll have one tomorrow.

  • Lord Stompo

    I invite all of you whiners to New Orleans, where, to paraphrase Tocqueville, you may drink yourselves blind twenty-four hours a day at bargain-basement prices.

    Of course, if you're staggering home drunk at 4am in New Orleans, your odds of getting shot are better than even, so maybe "boring" NYC isn't so terrible after all.

  • Kojak

    If you want a good night sleep, move to the outer boroughs or buy sound-proof windows. Welcome to New York.

    An extra thought: If you happen to move into a noisy neighborhood, don't then COMPLAIN about it after you move in. You knew what you were getting yourself into.

    Killjoys

  • Dave Hogarty

    If you're not a complete drunk a-hole, your bartender will let you stick around for a lock-in until they're ready to go home. If you're told to go home, you will probably thank them the next morning anyway. P.S. When you're told to go home, don't wait for a reluctant invitation to stick around. Just GO.

  • thefacts

    The city never sleeps.

    But its people do!

    Some of us actually get up for work at 7am.

    You want to party? Go back to Bumfuck, USA where you were spawned and party.

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