Gothamist: Rookie Cop Charged with $113K Bank Robbery

JacqueMehoff

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:56:54 -0500

don't forget they get a concealed carry permit, that's priceless in this city.

chuzzlewit

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:08:14 -0500

cops and teachers should be paid more. it would pay back in the long run.

JenChungsBra

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:39:24 -0500

Oh, excuse me. So he was making $32,700 a year. No excuse for robbing a bank and of course he will and should go to prison. But it's still a disgrace. The unions and the city sold future generations of rookie cops down the river so that their members could get more now and the city could save a few million. But meanwhile it's eroding the NYPD from the bottom up, as well as other city police forces that follow the NYPD salary guidelines. It's hard to recruit enough city cops, and the ones that join often jump ship to Westchester or Long Island to make more money AFTER the city has paid to train them. It's a shortsighted policy.

just_saying

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:07:23 -0500

You're welcome, zodak. The requirements for joining the NYPD are actually more stricter than they used to be. Recruits now have to have either 60 college credits from an accredited school or two years of full-time, active military service. No more high school dropouts like the "Dirty 30." For those who weren't around 14 years ago, here's a glimpse of what it was like in the old-time NYPD: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E04E0DA1439F932A35753C1A962958260

zodak

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:29:59 -0500

thank you just_saying i was about to copy & paste that stuff.

JacqueMehoff

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:42:52 -0500

yes, it's accurate, please add in ALL the benefits for what is basically an entry level job. and, that's what it is, just a Job. one can take it or shove it. and this doesn't sound like a run of the mill 6k bank robbery. 113K is enough to buy a house in some states.

dimshine

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:23:19 -0500

are those salary figures accurate, because maybe i'll rethink my position!

Reality Czech

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:19:07 -0500

Cop don't need to rob banks to be criminals. They do it everyday by breaking laws and by enforcing the law as the please when they please. They steal from taxpayers who expect them to do their job all the time, not just when they feel like it.

just_saying

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:11:49 -0500

More from the NYPD recruiting website: "When including base salary, average overtime and night shift differential, holiday pay, and uniform allowance, a Police Officer earns over $35,000, on average, in the first year; $45,000, on average, in the second year; $77,000, on average, after 6 years. 1 in 6 uniformed members of the NYPD are Detectives. A Detective’s (3rd Grade) average earning is $100,000* (Promotion to Detective is not based on a promotional exam, it’s based on merit). 1 in 7 uniformed members of the NYPD are Sergeants. A Sergeant’s average earning is $100,000. 1 in 20 uniformed members of the NYPD are Lieutenants. A Lieutenant’s average earning is $122,000."

just_saying

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:02:54 -0500

From the NYPD recruiting website: http://www.nypd2.org/html/recruit/salary.html (quote) Start receiving full pay and benefits from your first day of recruit training ($25,100 per annum). Upon the completion of the Police Academy (six months), your annual salary increases to $32,700. Salaries will continue to increase every year and upon completion of 5½ years of service, base salary will increase to $59,588. In addition to these base salaries, there is also overtime earning, holiday pay, night differential and uniform allowance. (unquote) I believe the average cop who's been on the job for six years makes in the range of $70K per year. Of course, if you get a promotion you will make even more money. Not a bad deal--really.

dimshine

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:34:39 -0500

great story. compelling and rich. when i was looking for a job, i thought about NYPD too, but with a wife who is a teaher, we'd basically have to live under a bridge like common trolls on those two salaries. if we call them heroes, shouldn't they be paid as such?

Muscley Armed Paper Boy

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:34:07 -0500

@Ph: Read the 2nd to last sentence in this post: "Anyone with any other options is taking another job." "Other options" is code for a college degree, meaning college grads who are thinking about going into the NYPD are instead going for jobs in the FBI, state police, small towns where starting salaries are $55K, etc. Tthe most highly motivated candidates are going elsewhere; so in the overall pool of candidates you are going to have less goods eggs and the bad eggs are going to shine that much more brightly. Apology accepted.

eyekantspel

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:18:00 -0500

anybody care to (calmly) talk about why cops aren't paid a living wage in this town? i don't understand why any civilization wouldn't want good cops. I think the policeman's union is to blame here. There was only so much $ to go around, and so they opted to keep starting salaries absurdly low so those higher on the totem pole could get more. (If I'm not right in recollecting this, feel free to correct me). I'm sure they thought that would force the city to pony up more cash as recruiting suffered as a result. Meanwhile, we all suffer until this is resolved.

justanother

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:56:08 -0500

600 dollars every two weeks. That's a fucking disgrace.

Albert Sharpton

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:47:34 -0500

maybe he did it for the lulz?!

Ph

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:32:04 -0500

He robbed a bank, he deserves to do jail time. Why are you fuckheads focusing on NYPD starting salaries?

chuzzlewit

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:26:34 -0500

anybody care to (calmly) talk about why cops aren't paid a living wage in this town? i don't understand why any civilization wouldn't want good cops.

JenChungsBra

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:19:24 -0500

$113,000 equals over 450% of his yearly salary. Maybe he was hungry.

HowBoutDemCowboys

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:58:25 -0500

Rookie mistake.

Muscley Armed Paper Boy

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:46:57 -0500

Gee, with a starting salary of $25K I can't imagine why the NYPD isn't getting better candidates. Can't the most famous city in the world afford a little more to protect its citizens?