Gothamist: Red Sox-Yankee Rivalry Cemented at New Stadium?

johnnye

Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:51:46 -0500

The real curse is the Hillary Clinton Curse. The Yankees have not won the WS since she was elected.

Tim N.

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:48:59 -0500

Here's an update: The Yankees are now saying that the Post made the whole thing up. Stop the presses.

JenChungsBra

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:40:14 -0500

You prove my point. They're free to outspend every other team in the league and then blame the Yankees, just like you do. Don't take that to mean that I support what the Yankees do though. I think a hard cap would be great starting next year if possible.

Reality Czech

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:00:36 -0500

Um, The Red Sox would not have to have such a high payroll if they weren't in the Yankees division. The Yankees have ruined baseball for many many fans of many many teams. Baseball needs a salary cap ASAP. This penalty that they pay for going over the spending limit is bullshit because all the Yankees do is raise ticket prices, concession prices, and cable TV prices.

JenChungsBra

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:31:29 -0500

The Red Sox should thank their lucky stars that the Yankees exist and are the way they are. It's the only thing that makes them palatable these days. The whole idea of curses is stupid. The Sox were never cursed -- they just sucked ass for 86 years in a row. There's a difference.

Phil McCracken 222

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:26:40 -0500

Corey Lidle still sucks, too

Phineas Gage

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:20:42 -0500

The Yankees payroll is $76 million more than the Red Sox this year ($209M vs $133M). That's enough of a difference to field, say, the Atlanta Braves, who also have an above average payroll.

Peter Trinkle

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:26 -0500

If there is going to be a curse on the new stadium it will be because they broke ground on August 16, 2006, or the 58th anniversary of Babe Ruth's death.

JP Lynch

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:13:33 -0500

ChampionOfTheSun: What made the Yankees the "Evil Empire" was all that I pointed out PLUS they were winning championships. Since the Sox have now won 2 titles in 4 years, they are the new evil empire. And as Tim N. points out, there are definitely more people on the New England (Pats, Celts, Sox) bandwagon at this point in time.

MJG

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:52:56 -0500

We lack sufficient information to determine if there's a T-shirt curse. It depends on whose shirt it is. As the NYY drafted Mike Lowell and then traded him to the Florida Marlins on Feb. 1, 1999, then that could be a problem for Yankee people if it was his.

smitty

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:51:01 -0500

that whole bandwagon fans thing is such a brush-off - yankees fans are the most dedicated, knowledgeable (and vocal) sports fans. Some people like them for more than the (not-so) recent wins (what bandwagon?? it's been a while) - like the history, tradition, etc.

Tim N.

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:36:04 -0500

Correction, Champion of the Sun... the Yanks used to have the most bandwagon fans. The Sox took that title, too. Trust me on this one, it's the true curse of winning. In the meantime, I'll keep wearing the hat I got when my dad and grandpa took me in 1972 (fourth place, 82-80 record that year).

ChampionOfTheSun

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:21:06 -0500

#10, you're right about the Sox, but the Yankees are still the Evil Empire. They still have the highest payroll, ridiculous ticket prices, and more bandwagon fans than any other sports franchise. Recently, they just haven't won a championship like the Red Sox.

twakum

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:39:29 -0500

shame, shame on the NY based (union) workers who obviously allowed this to happen,

JP Lynch

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:25:16 -0500

Red Sox are the new Yankees: one of the highest payrolls in baseball, bandwagon fans and ridiculous prices at Fenway. In a sense, they are the evil empire now...

bxbrian

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:18:17 -0500

Shit, #7 is on to me. Not true, I'm a Mets fan. We don't need t-shirts to curse our team.

Reality Czech

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:14:58 -0500

The Yankees are the evil empire. But the Sox don't need a buried T-shirt to kick the Yankees ass.

ChampionOfTheSun

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:12:54 -0500

What probably happened was that some moron with one of those "Got Rings?" t-shirts from the Bronx killed a Red Sox fan and buried him under the new stadium.

babyhitler

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:12:50 -0500

yeah. it's metaphorically wrong and stupid. The red sox were cursed because they sold babe ruth to the yankees for money. it was karmic. If the yankees buried the shirt themselves to get back at the Red sox then it would be a curse. the yankees have to be the protagonists for it to be a curse. I mean, what's the difference if a red sox fan puts a tshirt on a flag pole or the cement? nothing

allie25

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:09:00 -0500

im a sox fan and i think this is a silly nonsense story

blablanyc

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:02:19 -0500

I took a huge dump in an undisclosed place in Fenway Park. FU Red Sux.

FrankMartin

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:57:28 -0500

I must say it can't be a curse. If the worker had come out 10 years from now and said it might be there and in that time the yanks sucked then it would be a curse. As it is now we simply have a t-shirt in cement. Now there is the legend of a Winger concert shirt buried in the coundation of the rock and roll hall of fame. Some blame that curse for the state of the recording industry and the rise of online music etc.

bxbrian

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:47:10 -0500

it would take more than a Red Sox T-shirt to put a curse on the Yankees. or...would it? (CUE DRAMATIC MUSIC)

S.D.

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:42:27 -0500

Of course, this could be a curse on the Red Sox as they're metaphysically dead and buried at Yankee Stadium...