Gothamist: Tibetan Flag Waving Olympic Torch Bearer from NYC

MFer

Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:21:28 -0500

Let me rephrase. She has the right to express her opinions on Tibet. But being torch bearer is just a privilege. It was offered and accepted under certain conditions which she violated. This does not violate her right to free speech. This has nothing to do with free speech. Afterall she will not be arrested or prosecuted for her action. Fuck Tibet.

MFer

Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:15:39 -0500

I'm with thefacts and Armchair warrior. And, really, people misconstrue the concept of free speech. She has the right to express her opinions on Tibet, just not while being torch bearer. And she agreed to these terms. This is not unlike when basketball players are fined by the NBA after complaining about the referee.

babyhitler

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:45:03 -0500

maybe this is the reason the columbia killer punched that chinese kid. He was protesting china's stance on tibet by punching the shit out of that chinese kid.

adm

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:07:39 -0500

"I think it's disgusting, appalling. It violated every paper we signed about the sanctity of the event." Coca-Cola, an Olympics sponsor which nominated Carter to carry the torch, is also unhappy with her actions. that's great. sanctity, as sponsored by coca-cola.

Albert Sharpton

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:13:27 -0500

China is going to nuke tibet and do it for the lulz once the olympics are over! hooray. keep upsetting them!

Armchair_warrior

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:05:16 -0500

my comment is towards all the none tibetans. the tibetans should protest till their hearts content.

MJG

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:46:44 -0500

thefacts (14) is comparing Tibet to Communist China? Creative.

Armchair_warrior

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:09:04 -0500

freaking bitch. i wish you folks start looking things at home first. let all the native americans reclaim their lands. let the hawaiians have their kingdom. france should let Corsica free. the same goes for the rest of the western powers.

thefacts

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:40:36 -0500

#12 The Tibetans CAN practice their religion. Why do you see so many monks in the protest? The monks want independence for Tibet (which was never a free country in its history), so they can go feed off the peasants, not work, meditate all day, contemplate their navel, and get fed and clothed by the poor hard-working Tibetans. Om sweet om. If you are so concerned about the Hans getting good jobs, you have little to be worried about. Believe me, there is a lot worse things than that going on in the world. I have never read Chinese propaganda, but it sounds like you and the other knee-jerks believe the propaganda that Richard Gere and that self-serving shyster, the Dali Lama, have been feeding you. I understand there are no synagogues in Vatican City, but the Jews have enough sense to know when to demonstrate. Unlike these goofy bleeding hearts who believe the hype the Buddhists have been spouting. You don't think Bush and the neo-cons are delighted at the bruising China is getting? Oh, for the record: Screw the Chinese communists. But at least we know they are creeps. Perhaps you will educate yourself and see the Tibetan theocrats are no better than the Chinese communists.

markedman

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:55:48 -0500

let's all rant and rave and point fingers and china so we don't have to think about the human rights abuses going on in our name by our government and the fact. a friend made a good analogy, perhaps a bit of hyperbole, but the situation today would be like if all of the dissidents in pre-WWII germany were constantly carrying on about freeing india. i'm not saying to ignore and excuse human rights violations in china, but look what the US government is up to.

fortyver

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:53:26 -0500

thefacts: The issue is not the only issue here. The main issue is freedom to practice their religion. They have no real freedom to practice their religion and too boot, they are ruining their culture by dumping Han Chinese in Tibet. Then the Han Chinese get all of the good jobs, while the Tibetans are forced to work all of the shitty jobs. I guess you are not concerned with the facts, just propaganda from the Chinese government. I could give a flying fuck about religion, but I will protect folks right to practice it, as long as it does not infringe on my right not to practice any religion.

thefacts

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:44:16 -0500

Why all the concern about Tibet? It is a theocracy governed by someone who was decreed the godhead at birth. What tripe! Tibet was part of China long before the US was a nation, and it was only 'free' for less than 50 years, from about 1909-1950. It is a province of China, just like Canton or Tsechuan. This is an internal affair. Of NYC secedes from NYS, is that anyone in China's concern? The monks are parasites. They are fed and clothed by the poor Tibetans who are brainwashed by this religion. Why are we defending religious leaders who never worked a day in their lives? There are so many worse situations in the world, and Americans are worried about keeping the Buddhist Pope in office. Better they were out protesting to end our war in Iraq. Oh, but I forgot, that is not 'cool' or 'hip'

Jen S

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:45:40 -0500

GOP, I think you're posing the wrong question. Majora was making a statement from her home country, where she's acting within her rights. There are anti-US protests in other countries all the time; we're not in control of what people do outside the US.

cwbuecheler

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:20:16 -0500

Fuck Richard Doran and fuck Coca Cola, and big props to Carter for doing the right thing.

JP Lynch

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:17:14 -0500

And what the hell does 9/11 have to do with the olympics?!?! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!

killerasp

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:14:08 -0500

"I think it's disgusting, appalling. It violated every paper we signed about the sanctity of the event." how is wearing your FDNY hat any better? People died (still dying) in tibet for fighting for freedom. People died from 9/11 as a result of terrorist attacks. Either way, people died. How is her actions any different than wearing a FDNY helmet?

DWM2008

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:09:46 -0500

Wow, for nike jump siuts to Branding being the biggest part of the cash intake for OHH limp picks.. freedom of speech does't exsist for those without the proper representation at the sponsorship level.... frakin thugs from China assualting a US citizen and taking her rights from her....gotta love how capitalism makes any cause just a bunch of crazies waving their flags........why dont they just pay for effective lobbying..human rights are not for the poor... true personhood rights belongs to the interest with the biggest purses.. besides if the Anericans can claim the lead in human rights after genocide, slavery and now forgo war crimes charges...well if you dont like it ....make money and change it.... Be seriously folks........ R we really 2 poor 2 take back our country & our world?

GOP

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:01:02 -0500

Let's play a little game of role reversal. What if a bunch of Chinese nationals came to the US and protested the US's treatment of minorities. The US needs to stop proselytizing its version of "right" and "wrong." Pot and Kettle meet in the US.

other_islander

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:57:02 -0500

I think it's disgusting, appalling. It violated every paper we signed about the sanctity of the event. Sanctity?!?! The olympics are the worst example of 19th century nationalism and romanticism married to 21st century hero-worship and commercialism... ...and not worth the life of one Tibetan.

JRod5417

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:50:59 -0500

Anything that p*sses off both Coca Cola AND China is fine by me. Good for her!

fortyver

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:50:44 -0500

Ah, freedom of speech. Good to see that we allow the Chinese Government to enforce decorum in this country. Maybe I am jumping to conclusions, but it was reported that the Chinese Government Intelligence or secret police, were operating among the torch route in Greece. Not sure why that it was allowed to happen on either E.U. soil, or possibly ours. Oh, BTW, It is not the Tibetans that politicized the Olympics, it's the good old Chinese Govt. who despite their empty promises, have not made good on improving human rights in Tibet, or anywhere in their country. Boycott those f**ks.

zodak

Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:42:55 -0500

"I think it's disgusting, appalling. It violated every paper we signed about the sanctity of the event." did it violate the constitution as well? free speech ≠ disgusting