BREAKING: Midtown East Crane Collapses Kills 4, Injures Many, Others Missing

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Photograph from East 51st Street by gattogrosso212 at flickr

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Image from NY1

2008_03_502nd.jpgA huge crane toppled off of a high-rise building under construction around 2:15 p.m. this afternoon and crashed into another skyscraper. According to initial reports, the incident occurred near 2nd Ave. as the crane fell backward from 51st St. into another building at 305 East 50th St. in Manhattan. NY1 spoke to residents who could see the incident from their 80th floor apartment on East 48th Street; they said the crane hit at least two building.

Two people are declared dead, with another likely to die. A total of eight civilians have been reported missing in the disaster, which has reached a 4-alarm level.

According to NY1, the crane crushed a building that housed the ironically named FUBAR, which was closed at the time, but other people may have been inside residential units in the building.

One tipster who was dining across the street, left the restaurant when debris fell into the establishment's patio. He said he saw a "huge plume of dust and debris" that blocked visibility in the street.

Part of the crane is said to have leveled a building that housed the bar "Fubar" on its first floor. Luckily, the bar was closed at the time, but the other floors may be inhabited.

Reader John sent us the image at right, of East 50th Street. He said one person was inside Fubar. From the images on NY1, it looks like the building was leveled.

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Image from WABC 7

It's unclear whether the crane was in use or if it just fell.

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Photo by Robert White at WNBC.com

There are reports of gas odor and Con Ed is moving to shut utilities.

UPDATE 4:01 p.m.: We're hearing that a total of four people are dead and two more are likely to die. There are many injuries.

It appears the crane was on the north side of East 51st Street, it fell south, hitting a building on the south side of East 51st and seems to have broken, with another piece falling onto the building on the north side of East 50th.

A devastated-sounding NY1 viewer who lives in the area described the building as falling "like a house of cards."

The address of the construction site where the crane was situated has not been confirmed, but it looks like it's a planned 40+ story building at 303 East 51st Street. While there are no Department of Buildings complaints for 303 East 51st Street or 307 East 51st Street, for 305 East 51st Street, there are many complaints, including this one from January 15, 2008:
"CLR STS SITE UNSAFE CLR STS THAT CRANE SWIGING ABOUT 20 FEET AWAY FROM WINDOW CLR STS THAT CRANE CAN BEEN CLOSE SHE WOULD LIKE INSPECT TO HAVE THEM CLOSE"

Again, the address has not been confirmed - if anyone knows the address, please let us know.

Many people are remarking about how the neighborhood was filled with people celebrating St. Patrick's Day early - and this stretch of 2nd Avenue has many bars.

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Image, via Google Maps, of what Fubar and East 50th Street looked like before

UPDATE 4:37 p.m.: Reader John, who is on the scene, tells us, "Apparently they were trying up raise the crane and it fell over. Two of the dead were the operators."

Second Avenue between 49th and 57th Streets is closed. The emergency crews are searching in the rubble for victims.

2008_03_crane5.jpgUPDATE 5:01 p.m.: WCBS 2 described the incident:

The crane split into pieces as it fell. Part of it came to rest against an apartment tower, buckling its facade and smashing it upper floors. That building and others in the area were evacuated. Another piece of the crane hit other buildings on the block, ripping away walls and ceilings and crushing a small building.
The crane was at 303 East 51st Street; it completely destroyed 305 East 50st Street and partially collapsed 301 East 50st Street. Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer said, “This is an absolute disgrace. We need better inspection and more resources.”

Fox 5 Metro Traffic reporter Lisa Chase lives in the area and railed against the poor construction at the site. She said orange fencing on the floors wasn't put on, that work had been done Saturdays and at all hours and that the workers were "being worked to death." She added a neighbor told her he didn't even walk in front of the site because it made him nervous.

Mayor Bloomberg is on the scene and is expected to speak, as if Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

UPDATE 5:17 p.m.: Assemblyman Jonathan Bing who represents the area told NY1 that he met with the construction site manager 8 days ago to discuss his community concerns about the building. He said that he had also spoken to the Department of Buildings about the site a few weeks ago and was still waiting from the DOB about plans. Bing says the complaint process at the DOB needs to be examined.

UPDATE 5:42 p.m.: The owner of FuBar, John PlaGreco, said he thought one of his employees was in the building at the time, "Our bar is done. The crane crashed the whole building. If I wasn't watching a Yankees game, I would've come to work early and gotten killed."

And the AP spoke to the construction management company's owner, Stephen Kaplan, who said that the crane was being extended today so workers could start on a new floor (19 of 44 stories have been completed) but some steel "fell and sheared off one of the ties holding it to the building." Kaplan said, "It was an absolute freak accident. All the piece of steel had to do was fall slightly left or right, and nothing would have happened." He also said that Reliance had subcontracted the construction to different contractors and that Reliance wasn't in charge of the crane.

The press conference from city officials has not begun yet.

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Photograph above of construction workers at 303 East 51st Street standing on a elevator and photograph below of firefighters searching on the rubble at 305 East 50th Street by Jason DeCrow/AP

UPDATE 6:02 p.m.: Mayor Bloomberg, Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer, Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, Buildings Department Deputy Commissioner Bob LiMandri, Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney, City Council member Jessica Lappin, and NY State Deputy Secretary for Public Safety Michael Balboni (Bloomberg said he spoke to soon-to-be Governor David Paterson about the incident) are present.

Bloomberg says the crane, which was at 303 East 51st Street destroyed 3 buildings and completely destroyed a 4th building, did break in two pieces - the bottom part falling from the north side of East 51st Street to the south side of the street, hitting 300 East 51st. The top part of the crane broke off and continued to fall, onto the north side of East 50th Street, landing on top of 305 East 50th Street and also hit other buildings on East 50th. The four fatalities are believed to be construction workers. He added that 305 East 50th Street, the townhouse where Fubar was located, was another site of "carnage," but the FDNY got one person out of Fubar alive, unclear if there was a second person. Bloomberg called it "one of the worst construction accidents" in NYC history.

2008_03_crane7.jpgThe crane subcontractor did have an appropriate permit to raise the crane (it's called "jumping the crane") to another floor but strangely, the Department of Buildings actually visited the building earlier today to issue a stop work order for something unrelated - strong winds are expected for tomorrow. There were 13 violations at the site, which is considered "normal" for a building of this size.

A number of buildings have been evacuated or partially evacuated, including ones that were damaged by the crane and neighboring ones. The Red Cross has set up a shelter at the High School for Art and Design at 228 East 57th Street near 2nd Avenue. And they have a crane read y to remove the crane on top of 305 East 50th Street.

FDNY is the lead agency. Scoppetta said they are conducting a rescue operation. They will use thermal imaging cameras to look for survivors, as well as police dogs and listening devices, but it's a delicate operation because they don't want to cause further collapse. The rescue operation will continue all night for both survivors and fatalities. There are 300 firefighters from 65 units. Kelly says many streets are closed as they conduct the rescue effort.

LiMandri said the owner of the crane is New York crane; the crane was made by FavCo, an Australian company; and the crane was being operated by JCI.

Bloomberg said, "It is a sad day," with the city's hearts going out to the families of the fatalities and prayers for the injured to recover.

And NY1 reports that Lieutenant David Paterson is heading to the scene.

UPDATE 6:49 p.m.: Lieutenant Governor David Paterson said, "This tragic tragic incident occurs here in New York City. And while we never want there to be these types of tragedies in New York City, this is actually the best prepared place for it to happen. Though we lost four lives, there were herculean efforts to save three others...It's a horrible situation, very gory, there's blood in the street, but we are very very lucky to have the brave police and firefighters here, their tremendous...Our hearts go out to the families who will learn they have have lost a family member here today." Paterson said offered the resources of the state, but it seemed like the city had it under control.

He noted that the lower part of the crane is balanced on the building at the south side of East 51st Street and that it will be dangerous to remove it. Paterson also said three victims are in critical condition and searchers are looking for a woman - apparently one of the victims said she was further back into the building.

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Not good and on this beautiful day.
NY1 has 2 dead.

I can see this from my apartment. It's been total madness down there for hours now.

The main picture from NY1 looks horrific.

I live in a similar building on the Northwest corner of 51st and 2nd and got some photos of both the crane shaft leaning into the apartment building on 51st and a peek at the demolished bar/apartment house on 50th. Going to see if I can get more. What a mess.

http://www.flickr.com/gp/44709009@N00/9j49ca

How does this happen almost day in and day out? Our little shittin' building is being harassed constantly by DOB about piddly shit and stuff like this occurs?

GET WITH THE PROGRAM DOB! ASSHOLES!

What is happening nowadays? It seems like I've read about more crane collapses and construction accidents in the past year than in the ten years before that. Is it because of the booming real estate market and a spate of rush construction jobs?

Yeah holy shit, how does this happen? There are tons of cranes all throughout the city that don't collapse, but christ, the DoB (deservedly) is gonna get a ton of shit for this. Remember when the top of the crane at 110 third ruined that cab and shut down the neighborhood?

the city doesn't care or should I say bloomberg. violations means nothing, look at the Trump site.
I'm waiting for something to happen in the LES.

Any word on who the construction manager is for the site?

I think you should off on blaming Bloomberg. If the crane collapsed while they were moving it there isn't much the DoB could have done to stop it. Sounds like operator error. If it turns out the crane was improperly set up for weeks or months then you have a point that inspectors should have caught it. But if it's operator error, well, accidents happen. Find out how much experience the operators had before lashing out. Maybe they were poor trained or something.

Please Don't Try This At Home.

there were complaints called in on record and violations issued. send in surprise inspectors and shut down unsafe jobs but they won't do that.
Put scrutiny on weekend and off hours work.
Like scott stringer mentioned, the DOH would shut a restaurant down for fruitflies but the DOB won't shut a job down until this happens.
Accidents don't happen.

My condolences to the families of the victims.

I'd bet that all cranes will be shut down for the time being. Considering how many cranes are in use, The City needs to find out how this happened ASAP.

Accidents don't happen.

Really? I'm not saying that this particular incident was unavoidable but you are incredibly naive or just have an axe to grind. Either way, this incident happened two hours ago and you already have the whole thing figured out. And your Department of Health analogy has no relevance. Apples and oranges.

Why hasn't anyone named the construction company yet? It should be easy - it will be on the scaffolding. Y'know - on the side that hasn't been reduced to rubble.

yes, REALLY.
no such thing as just an ACCIDENT. That's a cop out answer.

I witnessed this from the Starbucks at 50th/2nd; we were sitting at the window. We heard a really loud rumble--not "freight-train like", as some of the descriptions on the news have said, but more like a bunch of huge trucks rumbling down the street. We looked around a bit to see where the sound was coming from, then we saw the crane come falling southward, parallel to 2nd Avenue, followed by a deafening crashing sound. The street filled with red/brown dust, making it impossible to see exactly what was going on; a few people ran into the Starbucks. I grabbed my phone to call 911, and while I was on the line with the operator the first cop car arrived, driving up 2nd Avenue. At this time, I also saw a bunch of construction workers running up 2nd Avenue and eastward on 50th Street; I wonder if these were construction workers from the site, since I've often seen many of them congregating in the small park at 49th/2nd.

I texted my brother-in-law to see if he was okay as he lives a few blocks from there. He's fine but said he's not suprised. He said he saw it swaying as they were putting it up and almost ran. It almost took out a light post.

I'm so sorry for the four who died and the others that are injured. Hopefully those are the only fatalities and they find the missing alive.

Yeah I live just up the street and this was a somewhat alarming construction site. Very sketchy, as opposed to the Veneto down the street which never seemed dangerous. This was an "accident" but a lot of people saw it coming.

I didn't actually realize I had heard the collapse until some time afterwards, I wrote it off as another truck. That's how loud 2nd Ave is.

According to wcbstv.com:

About 19 of the 44 stories had been erected, and the crane was scheduled to be extended Saturday so workers could start work on a fresh story when a piece of steel fell and sheared off one of the ties holding it to the building, according to Stephen Kaplan, an owner of the Reliance Construction Group, which manages construction at the site.

Construction company

http://www.relianceconstruction.com/english/

go to projects Hotel and Condominium click on 303 east 51st Street to see picture of CRANE "Still Standing".

Quote from the Reliance Construction Group Website regarding Fast Track Jobs.


"...Fast-Track Scheduling

We have earned a special reputation for our willingness to take on assignments with deadlines considered virtually infeasible, and then to do whatever it takes to succeed, assuming full responsibility for supplying the resources required. Getting there on time takes the right planning tools and the right planning skills. We have those.
More importantly, it also takes the right relationships with sub contractors and suppliers – and their one hundred percent cooperation. We have that too.

Retailers off to a late start in the planning of a new store come to us so that they are open by Christmas. Manufacturers and retailers facing complicated renovation or expansion projects come to us to minimize disruption and downtime. Building owners trying to accommodate incoming tenants with demanding occupancy requirements come to us for help in meeting their commitments. In thirty years of high-pressure construction management, we have never once struck out."


STRIKE ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good work, Gothamist. Somehow you always seem to have the most complete coverage for NYC catastrophes (of which there are many).

This is the problem to the Building owners and the Contractors Life is cheap in the old days they would build one casket for every 3 floors so they expect one death every 3 floors going up that means in your average concrete crew of say 70 carpenters building a 42 story building there will be at least 14 Injuries perhaps some deaths. The nature of the beast is to get it build as fast as possible whatever it takes. it is up to the Building department and OSHA to protect the interest and safety of the workers and civilians in my opinion they need to issue a city wide shut down of all cranes and have them reinspected ASAP and those prablomatic sites may need to get contractors with a better safety records. my prayers go to everyone affected.

yes, REALLY.
no such thing as just an ACCIDENT. That's a cop out answer.

You must be a lawyer. Try picking up a book on statistics sometime.

Sure, everything can be traced back to its root cause but to think every detail can be caught is again simply naive. You will probably be right that an investigation will turn up that the crane was improperly installed weeks or months ago but you have no way of knowing that now.

we should send the cranes back to mexico where they belong. Not only do the cranes kill people, but they don't pay taxes and take jobs away from americans.

A couple of years my building was remodeling a front concrete staircase, fairly simple. We had two work stoppages and several DOB inspections because someone complained and thought the stairway was unsafe during construction....no, not because of some blatant safety violation, but because the remodeler had screwed up and one of the stairs was like 1" off. All very minor stuff,but DOB seemed to have enough time to send someone twice over a week period to look at it. So how is it, that people can make 311 calls about a crane swinging 20ft outside their window, plus several other safety concerns regarding the construction of a high-rise, and not do anything???

Maybe they function like the community boards, i.e., whoever greases their palms gets a little less "oversight"!

Terrible. How is this still happening? Where are our standards?

Let me tell you now the Dept. Of Buildings is
the most corrupt part of our city it is always
working for landlords and usually only for "squeeky
wheels" tenants. Every one in the D.O.B. should\
be fired. This crane was inspected on Friday the
day before this horrible accident.I wonder if the DOB crane inspector ever got out of their city car?
This after the city says they were going to be
more vigorous on construction job site inspections.
What a great job on that,anyone can see this crane was becoming top heavy and as they raised the crane
today it toppled. Nice Job DOB!
I empathize with the dead and injured which as
I write now 3 injured are "Likely"in hospital
i.e.Likely to die.

Writer MSC thanks for that info.
Wish I were a lawyer against them.

Wow, I walk by that townhome everyday on the way to work.

It seemed like the building got taller by a floor every day. I thought I was hallucinating at first, but then it was undeniable.

NYT is reporting that the detaching of the crane from the building was a "freak accident" - they supposedly dropped something on one of the beams that connected it.

Posted this on the Times blog but probably more responses here:

This is what happens when the Department of Buildings refuses to enforce any of the laws and violations that it gives. The survivors and survivor families should sue the Department of Buildings for complete lack of enforcement. The situation in the city has gotten pathetic and the same swan song of “accidents happen” completely abdicates everyone from responsibility.

I love how the contractor claims “it was a subcontractor.” Soon you’ll see the subcontractor claim it was a black cat next door that crossed a path.

The attorney general should already be working on filing criminal charges against the developer, the construction company contractor, the sub contractor and those in charge at the Department of Buildings. Its time for people to stop getting away with literal murder in everyone’s desperate race to the bottom.

is there anything that people in the area can do to help?

thank you WSM, people should visit their local borough office and see what goes on in there.
one thing you notice is a sign stating employees can not accept any gratuities and that a "thank You" would suffice.
and, we know what Fast track means when it comes to applying for permits.

FUBAR is an acronym that commonly means "F#*&@ Up Beyond All Repair", "F#*&@ Up Beyond Any Recognition," (the recognition version was most often used to describe a situation) or the most common translation "F#*&@ Up Beyond All Recognition." It is attested in the United States Army and other military settings, as well as civilian environments.

This is a horrific disaster. I pray that no one else has been killed, and my heart also goes out to anyone who is now homeless and to the owners and employees of Fubar.

I was evacuated from my building a little over a year ago when a crane partially collapsed at the Toll Brothers construction site on Third and 14th. That crane was owned by New York Crane, and it always looked and just "felt" unsafe to myself and my neighbors, and that accident happened while the construction crew was "jumping the crane" -- raising the whole thing up to add a new section. Here, we have another crane owned by New York Crane, collapsing and killing construction workers who were "jumping the crane"...and residents of buildings on and around 51st Street are now saying that they wouldn't go near it because it seemed unsafe.

It may all be a coincidence, but I still wonder: what is going on here?

I fear for every construction worker in this city, and I can't bring myself to even walk past a construction site, after witnessing the Toll Brothers incident. How many more people are going to be injured and killed in this plague of construction disasters before our city leaders decide that enough is enough?

"There were 13 violations at the site, which is considered 'normal' for a building of this size."

That really gets to the heart of the problem. Yes, there are regulations, but no there's no expectation that anyone would actually comply with them. And no real requirement to comply, for that matter.

Union or non union?

it seems most of these accidents happen at UNION sites.

You don't find projects of this magnitude that are non-union, so it's difficult to compare. Non-union sites are smaller and while there are accidents and deaths, they don't get nearly the same attention.

'Union or non union?

it seems most of these accidents happen at UNION sites."

Excuse me? This has nothing to do with Union or Non-Union. This is all about bad management. There are companies straining human resources and logistical limits to deliver projects for less money in less time. It takes X amount of time to do any job safely. What really concerns me is the buildings that made it through construction without significant catastrophes and will be falling down in the next 10 years due to shoddy construction.

If Union construction was actually used on this site I'd be surprised. If people hadn't been so anti-union for the past s20 - 30 years, we wouldn't be facing this sort of rush of catastrophic accidents. Let me ask you something edEX, how many cranes collapsed during the construction of the Empire State Building?

It is entirely possible that this spate of construction fatalities may be the undoing of the Bloomberg Administration's positive public record. The DOB should shut down every single building site in the city at this point. There is simply no way of knowing what building sites are safe any longer.

You want to know what's really scary? As this was all coming down (pun intended), I was joking with friends that if they saw a Bovis Lend/Lease sign that we had to cross the street. We were on 86th and 3rd Ave. Thank God we didn't walk south.

Blame the rushing of these buildings to be built.

This should be a wakeup call to the city and saying no to ugly huge condo buildings!

"It is entirely possible that this spate of construction fatalities may be the undoing of the Bloomberg Administration's positive public record. The DOB should shut down every single building site in the city at this point. There is simply no way of knowing what building sites are safe any longer."

Agreed, tartugas.

Real estate developers are not evil incarnate, simply as a result of being real estate developers. Nor is development necessarily a bad thing. Change and development can be bad...or good. New York City history shows that to be the case. But the heavy-handed, greedy recklessness of real estate development in this city, at present, is shameful. It's irreparably altering communities, against the wishes and the best efforts of the people who actually live and work in them. It's frequently changing the skyline for the worse, and making it harder and harder to distinguish among the characters of individual neighborhoods. It's serving only those who can afford "luxury condos." (Where are these affordable housing developments that we're always being promised?) And it's costing lives through rushed jobs, risky cost-cutting measures, and shoddy construction. NONE of it has to be this way! Development doesn't have to be this way. But people all over the city seem so willing to just accept that this is the way development is going. How many more times are we going to collectively shrug and say "oops," or "gee whiz, that tacky condo tower sucks for everyone except the people who live in it or profit from it -- too bad!" Nothing's going to change as long as the developers have City Hall in their pockets. I fear for the arts and culture, I fear for the preservation of our history, I fear for middle- and low-income New Yorkers...but most of all, I fear for our construction workers.

I haven't walked past a construction site since I saw people injured in the Toll Brothers incident, and the rate of accidents in this city has proven that to be a good policy: don't step on anything with a ConEd logo on it, don't walk past construction sites, and you'll probably live. I love this city, but I would love it more if City Hall would address the needs of its residents in addition to the needs of its developers...one of which is the need to be able to walk down the street without fear of being crushed to death by a giant fucking crane.

Well said, Spiny.

I heard some developer already made an offer on the townhouse's lot.

Tragic stuff.
Whoever dropped the piece of steel that caused the chain reaction must be devistated.
I guess this is why those crane operators make over six figures...

i think what they're trying to say is that the crane was secured properly and being "jumped" properly up until this supposed freak incident where a steel beam or whatever fell. if a piece of steel fell and sheared one of the crane's support ties, that is not a freak accident. no way that steel should have fell in the first place. on some projects, safety is considered an afterthought. something that takes a backseat to progress

it may take them a while to figure exactly what happened but there will no doubt be massive and wide ranging lawsuits involving the owner, gc/const. mgr, crane owner, crane operator, steel sub., dept. of buildings, nyc, etc. the finger pointing has already begun by this kaplan guy but just because reliance wasn't directly responsible for the crane, doesn't absolve them of responsibility.

also, typically union workers are better trained and more skilled than non-union. i don't think that's really relevant

Unions are relevant in that the function of the union is to look after the welfare and interests of its members. Getting killed is not in the interests of a worker, usually. Evidently the unions are not doing their job, just as the DOB is not doing its job. The only people doing their job are the developers, whose job is to be as greedy as possible and practice the old American principle of dog eat dog, and devil take the hindmost.

I imagine some of these new buildings may be falling down before long, given the standards being adhered to in constructing them.

Spiny, you just summed up all of my related frustrations. What's needed is a better conversation between the DOB and the neighborhoods being affected by these developments to ensure that everyone is happy and safe.

In the Williamsburg area, I play a game and count the new condos being slapped up. The number is constantly growing, and the neighborhood looks crazy , not to mention severely unbalanced. The trend seems to be pointing the city to newer, bigger, shinier, but where is this going to lead us? I mean, I'd like to live in a nice, new condo, but no way can I afford that - not for years, at this rate. Who is living in these buildings? And where are the rest of us going to live when the old buildings are knocked down for new ones?

What I don't understand is why this crane/building was passed by inspectors who came in as the result of nearby residents compaints and concerns.

I agree with those above who feel that these tall buildings are completely out of whack. I spent every weekend on this very street, c;oser to First Ave. and in this tall building made no sense--even with the brick thing across the street and the building on First. The street is one of nice, small buildings. It's so sad.

If this was an "accident," it sounds as if it was one that could have been avoided.

I don't live in NYC, but part of the problem may be that due to budget cuts, every agency to do with workplace safety in any industry, has had a shortage of inspectors, since the Reagan years. When people complain about such sites, how long does it take an inspector to go to look into things? Does it happen before someone gets injured or killed? Before property is damaged, or a project put behind schedule due to an accident? Probably not.

as for unions...unions have comprehensive safety programs and work closely with management on this. Its to everyone's advantage...if work stops due to injury, deaths, or near misses, work stops. Projects get behind. From a practical, monetary POV, it makes sense to have safety practices in use, from both labor and management standpoints.

But...is it me, or the media? Are there more construction accidents, especially in NYC, the past year, or is it just the subject reporters are focusing on?

Um... "All the piece of steel had to do was fall slightly left or right, and nothing would have happened."

WTF? Why did this piece of steel fall, anyway? And what would it have hit if it had fallen slightly to the right? A person? Just one building?

Obviously they were doing things wrong in the first place if stuff was falling.

This is what you get for hiring meatheads to handle heavy machinery. And also what you get for trying to insert a 43-story building in the middle of an already populated block. It's sick.

Unions are relevant in that the function of the union is to look after the welfare and interests of its members.

That may have been the original purpose of unions, but nowadays, the only purpose of unions is to ensure their own continued existence. If that means keeping union members safe, then that's a freebie, but otherwise, as long as other suckers keep joining, that's all that matters.

What's most impressive is that everyone commenting on this article and quoted in the press seems to be a member of the NY Bar, a professional engineer, a certified master rigger, and a seasoned construction manager. I'm humbled.

Schwartzie what strikes me as impressive is that the "professional engineer, a certified master rigger, and a seasoned construction manager"s might as well be laymen judging by the job they've done. I don't have to be professionally involved to comment on an obviously unsafe worksite 2 blocks from my apartment. If that crane had fallen the other way, it could have hit my building. You don't have to be a professional to notice what's right in front of your face.

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