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A NY-based nonprofit called Breakthrough launched a video game yesterday called ICED: I Can End Deportation (also a play on the acronym for Immigration and Customs Enforcement Department).
In the game, the player chooses one of five immigrant teens, each of a different ethnicity and immigration status, and walks through their shoes -- learning "how immigration laws deny due process and violate human rights to all immigrants." A collaboration between Breakthrough, community-based organizations and NYC teachers and students, the game can be downloaded for free and works with both PCs and Macs.
Since it's targeted towards students, it will also "be accompanied by curriculum for high schools and community groups to utilize in social studies and civics discussions, and align with New York State and New York City Social Studies and English Language Arts Standards." Which should work until Grand Theft Auto IV comes out.
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Nice idea, but oh man...I feel a shitstorm approaching.
Cue the I hate illegal immigrants choir...
Well illegal immigrants should wait in line the rest of the immigrants who are coming to this country legally.
Well illegal immigrants should wait in line like the rest of the immigrants who are coming to this country legally.
how can due process be denied to people who aren't citizens?
Due process is a human right afforded to all whether they are citizens or not.
"how can due process be denied to people who aren't citizens?"
Um...If you are a human being in this country, you have a right to due process. Without this any tourist, diplomat, resident alien, etc. could be snatched up and held in jail forever without a trial.
That's why the U.S. had to create Guantanamo, b/c they couldn't hold prisoners indefinitely like that on U.S. soil.
ok...obviously i am talking about due process with respect to immigration/deportation matters. if someone is found to be in the country illegally and is going to be deported i don't understand how they can expect due process if they can't prove their citizenship (or they have a valid visa, etc).
i don't have a big opinion either way on illegal immigration, that part of it just doesn't make sense to me. if you are knowingly here illegally, why would you expect this government to afford you the same liberties and protections as an ordinary citizen?
your an idiot fish.
get an education..then make comments
seriously...EDUCATION.
due process is a human right. much like the right to free speech. and the right to an education... which you don't have...
what part of illegal is so difficult for the rest of you to understand. no more needs to be said. in violation of laws on books - deportation should proceed. period. don't like it, work to change the laws, but you cannot ignore them at your own whim.
nonumentalart - re: YOUR education. it's YOU'RE an idiot.
also, four posts? perhaps YOU'RE the idiot.
also, if they were actually given due process (even international due process), under the current laws they would most likely be turned over for deportation to their country of origin... dumb argument to make.
illegal immigration just seems like a pretty bald-faced crime. obviously i understand what due process is, i have been the beneficiary myself. but as long as you're a consenting adult, illegal immigration just strikes me as something that shouldn't be afforded necessary trial and legal protection. not that you should be jailed or anything else; but you get "caught," you get swiftly deported. with any other crime (committed by a citizen or otherwise) there can be uncertainty, debate, motives, alibis, etc. you're a kazakh citizen in iowa with a tourist visa that expired 5 years ago...what more is there to say? i don't know, that's just what i think makes sense. i wouldn't necessarily support that as policy but it's what makes sense to me objectively. feel free to call me an idiot
yay for illegals! if it wasn't for them, six figure manhattanites would be forced to pay decent wages to get someone to clean their shitty toilets and babysit their wasted seed.
By the way, the game deals with legal immigrants who have been denied due process and could be deported. Legal immigrants.
from the Marketwire press release:
ICED... is a free, 3D downloadable game that teaches players about current immigration laws on detention and deportation that affect legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, students and undocumented people...
The game deals legal and illegal immigrants.
good point.
The Marketwire news release mentions "legal permanent residents, asylum seekers, students and undocumented people," i.e., legal and illegal immigrants.
Legal and illegal.
I stand corrected.
/Open borders!
In the example of the Kazakh overstay in Iowa, due process must be afforded him not only because he is a human being in the United States, but because there actually might be remedies at law within that "due process of law". Examples include 10-yr. cancellation of removal (not for this guy of course but for a 10-year overstay, even one who entered without inspection), an immediate relative U.S. citizen who could file for him, even a possibly current application for labor certification filed on his behalf. Removing him from the U.S. without proceedings would deprive him of the rights to exercise these remedies which, like it or not fishfryin, are right there in the law.
Also, it is not a crime to enter the U.S. illegally. It is a civil violation. It sounds like a nitpick but when you're foolish enough to believe that common criminals should not have legal protection when they seem to have committed "bald-faced crimes", i.e. there is overwhelming evidence against them, you are doubly foolish to deprive civil law violators of such protection.
Since it's targeted towards students, it will also "be accompanied by curriculum for high schools and community groups to utilize in social studies and civics discussions, and align with New York State and New York City Social Studies and English Language Arts Standards."
Nice. Real fucking nice.
We're doing such a wonderful, bang-up fucking job of teaching them how to read and write and calculate.
Now let's give them swelled heads and a sense of entitlement.
This shit isn't tax-supported, I hope?
We at Breakthrough want everyone to know that ICED is talking about all immigrants - including legal immigrants. ICED characters include a Green Card holder, a Gulf War veteran, a Japanese student, and an asylum seeker. And every one of them is being denied due process because of unfair immigration laws that detain and deport them without a judge being able to decide whether they should be staying back in the US based on their individual circumstances.
Hi,
The makers of ICED at organization Breakthrough want you to know that four of the five characters ARE in the U.S. legally. The problem with our current laws is that they deny due process to legal residents AND undocumented immigrants.
Please take the time to play the game and read about the facts at www.icedgame.com.
Thanks,
-Breakthrough