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February 6, 2008

Hillary Clinton's $5 Million Campaign Loan - And Does Obama Have the Delegate Lead?

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Photograph of Hillary Clinton giving a speech last by Angela Radulescu on Flickr

After successful (if not decisive enough overall for the nomination) Super Tuesday primary results, Hillary Clinton is thinking about the immediate future of her campaign, by considering loaning $5 million to the effort. And this comes as her campaign spokesman Howard Wolgson revealed she already loaned the campaign $5 million last month! From the Post, here's Wolfson's quote:

Late last month Sen. Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million. The loan illustrates Sen. Clinton's commitment to this effort and to ensuring that our campaign has the resources it needs to compete and win across this nation. We have had one of our best fundraising efforts ever on the web stoday and our Super Tuesday victories will only help in bringing more support for her candidacy.
The Times' Caucus blog offers up some speculation: Donors are maxed out and potential ones might not be impressed with the good but not resounding wins, but "news that she’s willing to lend her campaign money may wring some money out of supporters who’ve been watching from the sidelines."

2008_02_barack206.jpgThe Post, which endorsed Barack Obama (the Times endorsed Clinton), who raised $32 million last month with 170,000 new donors, went the more dire route, writing the "loan signaled potential problems for Clinton in terms of resources -- and will likely make life harder for her fundraisers as they try to secure money from donors in the coming days."

And The Politicker's Azi Paybarah reports that during a conference call with "Hillary Clinton surrogates", Congressman Jerry Nadler said, “I think last night really stopped what was building up to be a very strong Obama momentum. It seems to me at least that a lot of what he said is awfully vacuous. There isn’t much there.”

Well, there was something there - because now projections say that Obama's Super Tuesday wins may give him the delegate lead! After some number crunching, his campaign manager said, “By winning a majority of delegates and a majority of the states, Barack Obama won an important Super Tuesday victory over Sen. Clinton in the closest thing we have to a national primary.”

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"After successful, if not decisive, Super Tuesday primary results..."

Huh? Decisive in New York, maybe.

 

Obama scares me. All he talks about is change, change, change. Change just for the sake of change is not necessarily a good thing. And charisma alone is not enough to unite Congress, as partisan as it has become these last few years. Besides, we all know what happened with the last person who said, "I'm a uniter, not a divider."

 

He's far better than Billary the Carpetbagger.

 

I don't think that Obama is advocating for change, "just for the sake of change." In fact, there are many reasons why we need change in this country. We spend $275 million per day on the war in Iraq. That is the equivalent of $4,100 per household. That is a lot of money, especially considering that the majority of Americans were against the war from the beginning. So the gov't has spent our money on a war that the majority of Americans don't support. Imagine if we used this money for education or healthcare.

This is just one of many reasons why we need a major change in thinking in this nation. Our priorities (the priorities of our government) are way out of whack.

Obama has more than charisma, by the way. He is level-headed, intelligent, inspirational, honest and he cares about the people of this nation, unlike the current president.

I don't dislike Hillary, but many people do. She has proven herself to be a divider. Barack on the other hand has support from small towns and big cities across the map. He has the support of whites, black, old, young, men & women. He has the support of Democrats, Independents and Republicans alike.

I strongly believe that he will be our next president.

 

Spirti of 76 should vote for Millard Fillmore.

 

In this case, change for change's sake is good enough. Change away Bush/Cheney means voting Democratic in November. Any D nominee will do.

Hillary is certainly disliked but the GOP will find plenty of dislike for Obama in the general election, too.

 


What else can the republicans dig up on Hillary?

She's an open book, theres no other dirt there.

We know she cheated on some sort of wierd thing no one understands called whitewater, we know he husband can't keep his pants zipped. We know she often makes unfortunate choices in apparel (wow, that yellow jacket is really bad) Who cares?

 

Yesterday's results show that Obama has a better chance in November. Hillary's big wins are in states like California and NY, while Obama's wins are near landslides in a number of states that don't typically vote Democrat.

The Democrats need states like Colorado, Minnesota, Georgia, Alabama, and Missouri in the fall if they want to win. The fact is that Hillary did so poorly in these states it doesn't bode well for her performance in the national election. States that she won (California, NY, NJ, and Mass) are all states that are guaranteed democrat in the election. Obama will win them regardless.

It looks like the Hillary hate has really gotten to people (especially in the middle states), so vote Obama if you want a Democratic victory.

 

And you basing this on what? that he can get a radical base who votes in these primaries motivated? Obama will be a gift for the republicans and get them yet another term when the general election roles around. The country just will not go for a radical leftist as much as you may hope.

 

simon you're wrong. Obama is a uniter in the sense that he isn't rabidly Democratic. Hillary is. She represents the Democratic party of the 90's just as Pelosi does. Hillary will lose a McCain fight because of her inability to bring the parties closer. Obama and McCain do not have that problem.

Clinton is the old. Obama is the new. That's about it for me.

Plus she voted for the war. What a carpetbagger.

 

BEEN WHERE, DONE WHAT?

Barack Obama,

As some have seen,

Radiates--

Obama's green.

 

Simon- Before you start questioning the basis of other comments, try doing some actual research yourself. Head-to-head polling consistently shows Obama out-performing Clinton in a matchup with...every possible GOP nominee (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html). Including McCain.

Also: the "Obama as radical leftist" garbage simply doesn't wash. Just because the Clintons have dragged their party right into traditional Republican territory doesn't make Obama a pinko. His policy stances are ceter/left, plain and simple. If you're going to use empty rhetoric, you could at least keep it current--the red scare BS is soooo 20th century. Try this one out: "If the Democrats nominate Obama, the terrorists will have won!" Way hipper.

 

Simon- Before you start questioning the basis of other comments, try doing some actual research yourself. Head-to-head polling consistently shows Obama out-performing Clinton in a matchup with...every possible GOP nominee (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html). Including McCain.

Also: the "Obama as radical leftist" garbage simply doesn't wash. Just because the Clintons have dragged their party right into traditional Republican territory doesn't make Obama a pinko. His policy stances are ceter/left, plain and simple. If you're going to use empty rhetoric, you could at least try to keep it current--the red scare BS is soooo 20th century. Try this one out: "If the Democrats nominate Obama, the terrorists will have won!" Way hipper.

 

"That is a lot of money, especially considering that the majority of Americans were against the war from the beginning."

You make some good points but this is factually incorrect. A majority of Americans are now against the war, but in March 2003, only ~30% were against.

"What else can the republicans dig up on Hillary? She's an open book, theres no other dirt there."

I don't think this is a sound point. The GOPists used 30-year old attack lines on Kerry, and it was enough to keep Bush in the WH.

"Yesterday's results show that Obama has a better chance in November. Hillary's big wins are in states like California and NY, while Obama's wins are near landslides in a number of states that don't typically vote Democrat."

The data does not support your conclusion. Primary elections do not provide any insight to the general election.

"The country just will not go for a radical leftist as much as you may hope."

Is someone afraid of Barack?

 

The media shapes elections. If only the media would have gotten by the only candidate with true vision John Edwards. I can't get excited by a woman who stood by a cheat and a man with limited experience.

 

carpetbagger, that's hot. a great word from the history books. and who better to use it on than hilary?

new york and california, give those to clinton, where they already locked up the old friends' network.

obama, better than nothing, or way better than the other garbage.

 

yes, yes, yes, obama's a uniter, he's the next jfk, he's the next best thing to sliced bread. LOL. what people base this on, i'm not quite sure given his track record or lack thereof, perhaps they just cant get their heads out of the media echo chamber. I'm not sure clinton is much better, but obama will most definitely will hand a victory over to the republicans when the general roles around, this much you can count on. especially when economics come into play and his proposals come under scrutiny (they will push the country further into bankruptcy -- the majority of the country will not be willing to pay the steep increase in taxes they would inevitably cause).

 

Proposals? I've seen more hot air from him than actual detailed proposals.

 

I'm voting for Obama. Not because he's black but because all black people vote for him without knowing the issues, just cause he's black. Black people can't steer you wrong. Remember Mayor David Dinkins? Now we've got that awesome tennis center in flushing.

 

"If only the media would have gotten by the only candidate with true vision John Edwards. I can't get excited by a woman who stood by a cheat and a man with limited experience."

I don't think that Edwards' and Obama's experience is all that different.. but to you Edwards has a 'true vision' and Obama has 'limited experience'. Sounds like the media shapes not only elections, but also your opinion.

"yes, yes, yes, obama's a uniter, he's the next jfk, he's the next best thing to sliced bread. LOL. what people base this on, i'm not quite sure given his track record or lack thereof"

Interesting you bring up JFK, since his political record before becoming President is not very different from Obama's.

"I've seen more hot air from him than actual detailed proposals."

True, and this does concern me, but very few, if any, candidates offer 'actual detailed proposals'.

 

BabyHitler,

Get a life. You're race-baiting doesn't amuse anyone and certainly doesn't add any insight into this discussion.

SimonLok,

Obama has the support of many Republicans. Susan Eisenhower, a Republican, recently endorsed his campaign. I have many Republican friends who actually favor Obama over McCain and Clinton. I think you'll be surprised come the general election.

Politburo,

Here are some statistics that I dug up:

"In the run-up to the war misperceptions were also highly related to support for going to war. In February, among those who believed that Iraq was directly involved in September 11, 58% said they would agree with the President’s decision to go to war without UN approval. Among those who believed that Iraq had given al Qaeda substantial support, but was not involved in September 11, approval dropped to 37%. Among those who believed that a few al Qaeda individuals had contact with Iraqi officials 32% were supportive, while among those who believed that there was no connection at all just 25% felt that way. Polled during the war, among those who incorrectly believed that world public opinion favored going to the war, 81% agreed with the President’s decision to do so, while among those who knew that the world public opinion was opposed only 28% agreed."

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

So you are right and I apologize for that error. I must remember it differently as everyone that I know opposed the war and did not believe Bush's claims that Iraq and 9/11 were related.

What this data does show is that those people who believed the lies of the American gov't (yes, lies - let's wipe away the bullshit and tell it like it is) supported the war. Those who didn't believe the lies didn't want their tax dollars spent on this war.

Bottom line is, the Bush government didn't give a flying f**k what the American people wanted. Instead, they TOLD us want we should want by using fear tactics and lies.

Now, back to Obama. I support him for many reasons, including that he is level-headed, rational and appears to sincerely care about the desires of the American people. He wants to create a government that represents the people.

I imagine that Hillary has a similar dream, but (for better or worse) she is clearly unable to engage the right in the way that Obama can. The last thing that we need is another president who will divide this country.

Well, my rant is over. I clearly favor Obama. For those who are interested in reading about his views on the issues, visit his website. Actually, visit all the candidates websites and read all of their views on the issues.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/index
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home

 

BALLOT ON THE MOUNT

Who would Jesus vote for?

One of his own, no doubt:

"Joe Lieberman's the mensch

Who'll chase the Philistines out."

 

BALLOT ON THE MOUNT

Who would Jesus vote for?

One of his own, no doubt:

"Joe Lieberman's the mensch

Who'll chase the Philistines out."

 
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